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Santa Barbara, CA Cops/DA Now Working "100 Soild New Leads" in Michael Jackson Case
ABC/GMA - FOX and Friends, others

Posted on 11/25/2003 5:29:14 AM PST by MindBender26

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To: AgThorn
Did you go to the url in post 31?If so,what is there lacking there to convince you?
41 posted on 11/25/2003 9:06:20 AM PST by eastforker (Money is the key to justice,just ask any lawyer.)
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To: MindBender26
Michael has repeatedly displayed the behavior that demonstrates he is inclined to this type of molestation.

You are so right. As stated by myself and others who have worked with these monsters, Michael Jackson is a classic pedophile.

42 posted on 11/25/2003 9:09:57 AM PST by Zevonismymuse
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To: TexKat
And if he does not, will you be wondering why?

I will not wonder why. It sounds like the young man is trying to get on with his life after many years of threats and harrassment. I think Jordan Chandler hates these new allegations coming to light almost as much as does Michael Jackson.

43 posted on 11/25/2003 9:17:42 AM PST by Zevonismymuse
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To: AgThorn
You miss the point. It is not the spelling (although it is annoying) that troubles me but your message delivered with a mixed metaphor. The odor of a vindictive sheriff or a greedy public are not appropriate metaphors for this case. Try the moral confusion of adoring and enabling fans instead, or better yet ...

Michael Jackson is a predator. He hunts children in a modern jungle. While on safari his needs are attended to by an assortment of servants.

44 posted on 11/25/2003 9:18:58 AM PST by af_vet_1981
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To: MindBender26
Even if only 20% of the leads are worthwhile, Jacko's in real deep doo dah......
45 posted on 11/25/2003 9:35:21 AM PST by b4its2late (It was so cold today I saw a lawyer with his hands in his own pockets.)
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To: AgThorn
The facts are that in last years interview Michael Jackson bragged about participating in all of the warning signs of pedophilia. I view that interview as a confession, now it's just a matter of getting to corroborating evidence to throw him in jail for the rest of his disgusting life.

And BTW, if you reply to this and look down below your tag there's a new button that has already helped me and will help you. Many thanks to John.
46 posted on 11/25/2003 9:40:26 AM PST by discostu (You figure that's gotta be jelly cos jam just don't shake like that)
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To: af_vet_1981; AgThorn; TexKat
You know I asked them both to read the sworn affidavit of chandler and for them to come back here and tell us what they think about it,that was over an hour ago.
47 posted on 11/25/2003 9:42:54 AM PST by eastforker (Money is the key to justice,just ask any lawyer.)
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To: AgThorn
I agree. We've already tried him and found him guilty. He is a sad case. I feel compassion for him but if he's guilty, he needs to go away for a long time.
48 posted on 11/25/2003 9:45:34 AM PST by Marysecretary (GOD is still in control!)
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To: MindBender26
Also, supposedly Jackson has real $ troubles and is borrowing from Saudi prince/friend

Saudi prince? Hmmm, very interesting. How hard would it be to extradite MJ from Saudi Arabia? Instead of a Bronco chase, it'll be F-16's dogging a private jet...

49 posted on 11/25/2003 9:52:03 AM PST by TheSpottedOwl (I'd rather have dead rats in my walls, than Hillary for President.,)
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To: af_vet_1981
The odor of a vindictive sheriff or a greedy public are not appropriate metaphors for this case.

There is a lynch mob mentality brewing on Jackson, and if he's guilty, so be it. I just want to know all the facts. So far there are arguments on both sides.

Try the moral confusion of adoring and enabling fans instead

You make an excellent point ... it would be totally worse for someone to get off, or even a lighter sentence, just due to their "adoring fans". Totally agree. Again, just watching both sides ...

50 posted on 11/25/2003 9:52:54 AM PST by AgThorn (Go go Bush!!)
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To: Helms
How incredibly sad.
51 posted on 11/25/2003 9:54:27 AM PST by Marysecretary (GOD is still in control!)
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To: AgThorn
they just did! I found it when I wrote a reply to you. So funny. Now we won't have any cute words to figure out anymore. Darn.
52 posted on 11/25/2003 9:57:47 AM PST by Marysecretary (GOD is still in control!)
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To: discostu
The facts are that in last years interview Michael Jackson bragged about participating in all of the warning signs of pedophilia.

Sharing a bed with children is a big warning sign for a 45 year old, that I totally agree with. However, it also is not pedophilia itself. But I am not being blind to the "red flags", just being cautious to not "lynch him" until the facts are all in.

I view that interview as a confession,

That's where we differ. "red flags" yes, but confession?

now it's just a matter of getting to corroborating evidence to throw him in jail for the rest of his disgusting life.

I will be the first one to say 'throw away the keys' if and when the "evidence" comes in or if there is any strong sign that he used his money or influence to kill the evidence. But until then ... I am still seeing a lot of "deep pocket" attraction to Jackson by some unsavory people.

And BTW, if you reply to this and look down below your tag there's a new button that has already helped me and will help you. Many thanks to John.

ROFL! Wouldn't that be nice. If we could just push that link on every pedophile out there ... what a quick solution to a cleaner planet!!

53 posted on 11/25/2003 9:58:13 AM PST by AgThorn (Go go Bush!!)
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To: TexKat
I am seeing this the same way you are ... a lot of fast facts are disappearing just as fast in this case which makes the "lynch mob" mentality on Jackson smell bigger than the potential guilt that he shows.

Interesting case .. I do hope that our "system" finds the truth and locks him up if he is guilty or locks up the extortionist accusors if he is not.

54 posted on 11/25/2003 10:00:51 AM PST by AgThorn (Go go Bush!!)
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To: freekitty
Amazing. I also hear Glen Campbell is in trouble for being drunk, hit and run and assaulting an officer.

Oh Oh ... and Glen is (was?) a born again Christian .. what's he doing getting drunk? Thought that went against the 10 steps of born-again-ism?

And I say that with strong concern for Mr Campbell who I have the utmost respect for.

55 posted on 11/25/2003 10:03:25 AM PST by AgThorn (Go go Bush!!)
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To: AgThorn
It's not just sharing a bed with children, it's that whole progression of the relationship, it's all designed to breakdown the barriers and increase the comfort level to allow him to add the sexual component.

Absolutely it's a confession. He boasted of ALL the warning signs (buying presents, seeking time away from their parents, confessing secrets to the kid, relating on their level, getting the sleep overs, sharing a bed, bathing them... according to the cops the next step after all that is molestation), now either he's the most unlucky guy in the world in that he displays every single external sign of being a pedophile without actually being one or he's a pedophile. Now looking at how much money he's made it's hard for me to accept he's unlucky. Therefore he's a pedophile. I find it impossible to believe that someone would participate in 7 of the 8 acts of a pedophile and not put the icing on the cake.

There very well might be people gunning for his deep pockets, but seeing that as the primary cause is basically accusing the accuser without evidence. MJ's interview gave plenty of evidence that he's a pedophile, the only question now is did he molest the kids that are coming forward.

You missed the button I was pointing out. You were lobbying for a spell checker, look next to the Post button.
56 posted on 11/25/2003 10:06:55 AM PST by discostu (You figure that's gotta be jelly cos jam just don't shake like that)
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To: discostu
You missed the button I was pointing out. You were lobbying for a spell checker, look next to the Post button.

Got it! thanks!!

57 posted on 11/25/2003 10:13:08 AM PST by AgThorn (Go go Bush!!)
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To: discostu
Prolly a series Nasti.

Just had to test. Caught Prolly, did not suggest "probably,"...and caught nasti....seriesly.

Back to my cheese.
58 posted on 11/25/2003 10:13:55 AM PST by PoorMuttly (DO, or DO NOT. There is no TRY - Yoda)
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To: discostu
Absolutely it's a confession. He boasted of ALL the warning signs (buying presents, seeking time away from their parents, confessing secrets to the kid, relating on their level, getting the sleep overs, sharing a bed, bathing them... according to the cops the next step after all that is molestation), now either he's the most unlucky guy in the world in that he displays every single external sign of being a pedophile without actually being one or he's a pedophile. Now looking at how much money he's made it's hard for me to accept he's unlucky. Therefore he's a pedophile. I find it impossible to believe that someone would participate in 7 of the 8 acts of a pedophile and not put the icing on the cake.

Perhaps I am missing some facts ... by the way where is the deposition of one of his "victims" that someone is talking about?

And where is the discussion on "bathing them"? That would be way out in front in my book if that was true, more than "sleep overs" if it is true.

Help me with this "evidence" that you have ... perhaps I have missed something, but I would think that if there is a "solid" deposition (as someone else claims) and confessions of "bathing" the children, that the press (who have already jumped on every other lead they could (secret room, love letters, etc.) would be making a lot of hay on these two points. But other than people here "referencing" this "evidence" I have nothing to read or verify.

Help me understand your position by putting forth the "evidence", and not the repeated "accusations" that have not necessarily been corroborated. (phew! thanks for the spellchecker on that sentence! ;-)

59 posted on 11/25/2003 10:19:19 AM PST by AgThorn (Go go Bush!!)
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To: AgThorn
Do you not read post sent to you.Go to post 31.Copy and paste the URL in your browser,then you can read the affidavit.
60 posted on 11/25/2003 10:24:36 AM PST by eastforker (Money is the key to justice,just ask any lawyer.)
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