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Kerry Slams Dean as Draft Dodger
NewsMax.com ^ | 11/24/03 | Carl Limbacher and NewsMax.com Staff

Posted on 11/24/2003 11:05:59 AM PST by kattracks

In a press release issued by Sen. John Kerry's presidential campaign on Sunday, former Sen. Max Cleland slammed front-runner Howard Dean for dodging the draft during Vietnam - the war that turned Cleland into a triple amputee.

"At a time when young Americans are being killed and wounded by President Bush’s failed policy in Iraq, we don’t need another governor who ran from going to Vietnam and leading our country," Cleland complained.

"We cannot afford to have a leader who weaseled out of going to Vietnam on a medical deferment for a bad back and wound up on the ski slopes of Aspen like Howard Dean," the Georgia Democrat railed.

Cleland, who has endorsed fellow Vietnam veteran Kerry for president, was reacting to Dean's comments to the New York Times on Saturday, where he explained how he went to for his draft physical in 1970 armed with x-rays and a note from his doctor.

"It was like a scene from the movie 'Alice's Restaurant,' " Dean told the paper, referring to Arlo Guthrie's 1969 hippie anti-war anthem.

The presidential candidate hoped a condition known as spondylolysis, a low-back pain that sometimes radiates into the legs, would help him beat the draft. And it did, with military doctors reclassifying Dean, who had just graduated from Yale, from a 2S student deferment to 1Y, which meant he'd be called up only as a last resort.

But Cleland and others are grousing that Dean's bad back was less of a disability than a convenient excuse not to serve, since he spent most of the next year skiing the slopes of Aspen, Colo.

Asked if he could have served if he really wanted to, Dean told the Times, "I guess that's probably true. I mean, I was in no hurry to get into the military."

Even Dean's mother, Andree Maitland Dean, didn't sound particulary proud of the way her son handled the draft, telling a recent interviewer, "Yeah, that looks bad."



TOPICS: Front Page News; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: 2004; draftdodger; howarddean; johnkerry
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1 posted on 11/24/2003 11:05:59 AM PST by kattracks
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To: kattracks
Bush Sr. got the credit for "Willie Horton" even though Al Gore first used it...

I suspect W will eventually get credit for this!

2 posted on 11/24/2003 11:09:54 AM PST by Onelifetogive
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To: kattracks
This will only endear the hard left to Dean. In other words most 'rat primary voters.
3 posted on 11/24/2003 11:10:11 AM PST by Semper Paratus
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To: kattracks
OOOOPS Looks like Drudge Headlines were correct about the Kerry People. Check this story out!

XXXXX DRUDGE REPORT XXXXX MON NOV 24, 2003 11:02:52 ET XXXXX

HIGH-LEVEL KERRY STAFFERS OVERHEARD PLOTTING IN IOWA HOTEL BAR: SENATOR TO RIDE MORE MOTORCYCLES, CULTIVATE 'PROTESTER' CREDENTIALS; DEAN CASH 'COMING FROM REPUBLICANS'

**Exclusive**

On the eve of a Tom-Brokaw moderated Democratic Presidential Debate, Senior Kerry advisers recklessly strategized over refreshments at the Hotel Fort Des Moines -- believing they were out of earshot to anyone who would care!

But as the caucus nears even stripped Iowa cornstalks have ears.

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The campaign advisers spoke frankly at the hotel's bar on Sunday night about the state of the White House race and their frustrations of living in the shadow of Howard Dean.

All of Dean's money is coming from Republicans, one member of Kerry's kitchen cabinet told the group. Another adviser asked if that had been researched. No one had an answer.

The staff said Kerry should -- and will -- use a motorcycle for campaigning more often.

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The advisers discussed how Kerry should stop trying to defend his Iraq vote and develop how Kerry's the real anti-war protester, not Dean.

The staffers talked about doing an ad where they would contrast Kerry's anti-war activism with Dean as a draft-dodging ski bum. The ad would feature vault clips of Kerry speaking at anti-war rallies and testifying on Capitol Hill vs. Dean statements on how he could have served in the military, but decided not to.

The Kerry staffers talked about the possibility of doing a documentary on the campaign, like the one Spike Jonze did with Gore. One frustrated operative said it would help with Kerry's "aloof" image problem.

The advisers carelessly talked about how thick Kerry's accent used to be.

Kerry did the thick accent when cameras were around to sound like JFK, laughed one senior staffer.

[In the spirit of the holiday season the DRUDGE REPORT will not reveal the names of those in attendance.]

4 posted on 11/24/2003 11:10:11 AM PST by areafiftyone (Democrats = the hamster is dead but the wheel is still spinning)
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To: kattracks
"At a time when young Americans are being killed and wounded by President Bush’s failed policy in Iraq, we don’t need another governor who ran from going to Vietnam and leading our country," Cleland complained.

He must be referring to Governor Clinton of Arkansas.

5 posted on 11/24/2003 11:10:17 AM PST by dighton (Neo-Conservative Power Vortex™)
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To: kattracks
""At a time when young Americans are being killed and wounded by President Bush’s failed policy in Iraq, we don’t need another governor who ran from going to Vietnam and leading our country," Cleland complained."

You just lost any sympathy. You complete B@@$#D! With one sentence you just linked Bush, Vietnam, and Failure in Iraq and put our enemies on notice that they can kill our soldiers because the whole thing is a debacle.

I hope every single pint of blood spilled winds up on your head.
6 posted on 11/24/2003 11:11:30 AM PST by OpusatFR (You want to see terror? Mess with my kids and find out. I'm primitive at best. A Mother at worst)
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To: kattracks
we don’t need another governor who ran from going to Vietnam and leading our country," Cleland complained.

I agree, NO MORE CLINTON'S!!!!!!!!!

Where were ya in '92 Max?

7 posted on 11/24/2003 11:11:47 AM PST by Zansman
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To: kattracks
And I went up there, I said, "Shrink, I want to kill. I mean, I wanna, I wanna kill. Kill. I wanna, I wanna see, I wanna see blood and gore and guts and veins in my teeth. Eat dead burnt bodies. I mean kill, Kill, KILL, KILL." And I started jumpin up and down yelling, "KILL, KILL," and he started jumpin up and down with me and we was both jumping up and down yelling, "KILL, KILL." And the sargent came over, pinned a medal on me, sent me down the hall, said, "You're our boy."
8 posted on 11/24/2003 11:11:52 AM PST by billorites (freepo ergo sum)
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To: kattracks
"It was like a scene from the movie 'Alice's Restaurant,'

Nope - It will be a scene out of political commercials coming soon...

9 posted on 11/24/2003 11:12:50 AM PST by 2banana
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To: kattracks
"We cannot afford to have a leader who weaseled out of going to Vietnam on a medical deferment for a bad back and wound up on the ski slopes of Aspen like Howard Dean,"

LOL !!!!! Great line.!

They're killing each other.......great!
10 posted on 11/24/2003 11:13:43 AM PST by nuconvert
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To: areafiftyone

11 posted on 11/24/2003 11:18:00 AM PST by dead (I've got my eye out for Mullah Omar.)
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To: dighton
"You must mean Governor Clinton"

You just put your finger on exactly why this is a disastrous tack for the Kerry campaign or any other Stop Dean movement among the Dems. Being a draft dodger didn't hurt Clinton up against WWII heroes Bush Sr. and Bob Dole, and it won't hurt Dean here either. It just makes Kerry et al. look desperate.
12 posted on 11/24/2003 11:18:15 AM PST by Argus ((Ninety-nine and forty-four one-hundredths percent Pure Reactionary))
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To: kattracks
Geeze, are these the same democrats who want the pubbies to pull their ads? I always wondered how my generation would behave when the grew up. I guess I'll never know. They just got older without growing up.
13 posted on 11/24/2003 11:20:02 AM PST by js1138
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To: kattracks
Kerry: "Dean is a draft doger, nanner nanner nanner."
14 posted on 11/24/2003 11:20:27 AM PST by Enterprise
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To: Enterprise
Funny, I thought he was a draft dodger. I wonder what a doger is?
15 posted on 11/24/2003 11:22:10 AM PST by Enterprise
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To: dighton
I was ready to post the exact comment!!

But then again, Cleland may have had Clinton in mind afterall!

16 posted on 11/24/2003 11:25:41 AM PST by malia
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To: kattracks
I remember the '60s (there are some of us). A lot of people did everything possible to avoid Viet Nam, but there was always a degree of respect for those who went willingly (at least in the real world; maybe not San Francisco). Nobody really wanted to die; the '60s were too much fun.

But there was kind of a code. Risking jail and citizenship and being able to come back home after emigrating...kind of accepted. Becoming a social worker, or Math teacher, or some other exempted job...accepted. Grad school, Reserves, Coast Guard...accepted.

Using an obviously bogus exemption and doing an in-your-face thing like being a rich boy skiing at Aspen...over the top. It must particularly rankle people like Gore and Kerry who signed up and went (although they probably had the pull not to) to have spoiled brat, rich boy Dean doin' up the slopes while saying he was ineligible. Why wasn't he in jail for the draft dodging? Is it too late to nail him for it? (wishful thinking)

17 posted on 11/24/2003 11:27:47 AM PST by grania ("Won't get fooled again")
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To: Argus
My last post...Clinton got a grad school thing out of the country. Maybe there were some shady dealings first, but he didn't get an exemption and then get in everyone's face with it at Aspen.
18 posted on 11/24/2003 11:29:54 AM PST by grania ("Won't get fooled again")
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To: Onelifetogive
If Dean gets the nomination, the Republicans should use this but make it clear where it cam from. An ad could say, "Howard Dean...even members of his own political call him a 'weasel'. He wouldn't defend the country then, and he won't defend it now...Re-elect President Bush."
19 posted on 11/24/2003 11:34:43 AM PST by San Jacinto
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To: dead
I could swear the clown is Daschle, although it's probably a little too tall...maybe cutened up for Halloween?
20 posted on 11/24/2003 11:34:45 AM PST by ErnBatavia (Taglineus Interruptus)
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