Written early. Posted early on FreeRepublic because of interest in both subjects, the Medicare bill and bias in the American media.
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To: Congressman Billybob
I hope you also faxed this to AP in Washington - just for fun.
2 posted on
11/23/2003 7:00:13 PM PST by
Keith in Iowa
(Tag line produced using 100% post-consumer recycled ethernet packets,)
To: Congressman Billybob; Carry_Okie; forester; sasquatch; B4Ranch; SierraWasp; hedgetrimmer; ...
Great article.
3 posted on
11/23/2003 7:01:19 PM PST by
farmfriend
( Isaiah 55:10,11)
To: Congressman Billybob
Thanks for writing all this.
Before I left to go up north for a visit, it looked as though this bill would fail and I paid it little attention.
Since returning last week, I can see the handwriting on the wall and have been researching the various aspects of this bill (which I'm not in favor of but that's beside the point).
If ever there was proof of media bias, this is it.
4 posted on
11/23/2003 7:03:17 PM PST by
Peach
(The Clintons have pardoned more terrorists than they ever captured or killed.)
To: Timesink
For your media bias ping list.
5 posted on
11/23/2003 7:03:36 PM PST by
Peach
(The Clintons have pardoned more terrorists than they ever captured or killed.)
To: Congressman Billybob
No doubt these are grandchildren of the "Dewey Wins Presidency" crowd.
7 posted on
11/23/2003 7:05:17 PM PST by
Chu Gary
To: Congressman Billybob
The liberal media, they don't just report the news, they create it out of thin air.
To: Congressman Billybob
You cannot necessarily trust what you read in the papers, or see on network TV. GASP! No, tell me it isn't so!
How about you cannot trust anything you read in the papers or see on network TV.
To: Congressman Billybob
Very interesting. Thanks.
10 posted on
11/23/2003 7:08:22 PM PST by
jigsaw
(God Bless Our Troops.)
To: Congressman Billybob
Nice expose. But you're too kind to them to suggest that they care about getting a story right. As long as it serves their political purpose they could care less about mere facts. It's no skin off the reporters' noses. Their bosses won't discipline them for screwing up the facts, just as long as they continue to screw up--or lie--in ways that favor the Democrats.
11 posted on
11/23/2003 7:09:05 PM PST by
Cicero
(Marcus Tullius)
To: Congressman Billybob
I....Skeptic Numero Uno....BELIEVED the lying as* press today!! Thank you Billy Bob for the COMLETE ACCURATE STORY! The sheeple will continue to be lied to by the media.
To: Congressman Billybob
Nice work.
freepmail headed your way
15 posted on
11/23/2003 7:15:17 PM PST by
Iowa Granny
(One man with courage makes a majority..... Andrew Jackson)
To: Howlin; Ed_NYC; MonroeDNA; widgysoft; Springman; Timesink; dubyaismypresident; Grani; coug97; ...
In my Sophmore statistics class, I learned that with statistical manipulation, you can make anything say whatever the heck you want it to say.
Just damn.
If you want on the new list, FReepmail me. This IS a high-volume PING list...
17 posted on
11/23/2003 8:01:50 PM PST by
mhking
To: Congressman Billybob
EXCELLENT! This deserves a
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20 posted on
11/23/2003 8:11:56 PM PST by
arasina
(CHRISTMAS! [just try and take my tag line away, Bloomberg])
To: Congressman Billybob
Bad bill. Will destroy economy and leave nothing but impossible public debt for my children. Does it matter how the votes came about to pass this garbage? Republicans that voted for this act are not conservatives.
21 posted on
11/23/2003 9:08:51 PM PST by
sully777
(ad absurdum)
To: Congressman Billybob
In another post, I read that Butch Otter of Idaho and Trent Franks of Arizona (both Rs) changed their vote late hours. After they changed their votes, some Democrats also changed their votes to make it a final 220-215. In any case, it is a disgrace that this bill passed.
To: Congressman Billybob
Do you have a link to the breakdown of the final tally?
24 posted on
11/23/2003 9:41:00 PM PST by
BCrago66
To: Congressman Billybob
November 23, 2003
Up until three hours into what should have been a 15-minute vote, we had stopped the Medicare prescription-drug bill in the U.S. House.
Late into the three-hour vote, one member of Congress commented to Congressman Ron Paul that his Liberty Caucus had "saved the Republicans..." and had pulled it off. Congressman Paul also heard from several other House colleagues that they were getting a lot of E-mails, faxes and phone calls from "Liberty Committee people."
We're extremely pleased that 11 of the 25 "no" votes are members of The Liberty Caucus. We are, however, especially disappointed with two of our caucus members, Butch Otter (Idaho) and Trent Franks (Arizona). They were the two members who caved into pressure and changed their vote, thus ushering in what will become the largest federal entitlement program in U.S. history. We are also disappointed in the other caucus members who voted in favor of this "entitlement" monster. Details about what happened during the three-hour vote will be given later.
The issue at hand is focusing our efforts in the U.S. Senate. The Senate is scheduled to vote on the bill Monday, November 23. We need to exert the same pressure in the Senate as we did in the House. Unfortunately, we have no organized caucus in the Senate to help defeat the bill, and that makes your efforts even more critical.
We oppose the Medicare prescription-drug bill as does Senator Ted Kennedy, but for a very different reason. Kennedy and the Democrats want health care run totally by the federal government and paid for by taxes and borrowing: in short, socialized medicine. We oppose the bill, but again, for quite a different reason. Representative Jeff Flake of Arizona (a member of The Liberty Caucus) who voted against the bill in the House said it best: "This proposal flies in the face of the principles of limited government and individual responsibility that Republicans are suppose to stand for. The enormous cost of this proposal will only hasten Medicares insolvency, and well have to rely on future Congresses to have the political courage that this Congress lacks. In the end, I think this looks like nothing more than an extremely expensive way to buy votes."
Senator John McCain, also of Arizona, has vowed to stop it. This afternoon, CNN reported the following: "McCain, appearing with Kennedy on ABC's 'This Week,' said he, too, would join the filibuster, but for different reasons.
'I come from a different exact opposite point from Ted,' McCain said. 'He wants to make it bigger, I want to make it better.' McCain said the new program would fail and 'add another $8 trillion in unfunded mandates that we're laying on our kids.'
With that in mind -- added to the country's overall budget deficit -- the Arizonan questioned 'what's ever happened to my party's fiscal discipline?'
'Somehow we've lost our way,' he said. 'And we are laying a terrible burden on the next generation of Americans.'"
The fight isn't over. We still have a chance in the Senate. Urge your senators to oppose the Medicare prescription-drug bill, not for the reason of Senator Ted Kennedy, but for the reason of Senator John McCain and Representative Jeff Flake.
Send your senators an E-mail or call them or, better yet, do both. Thats what made such an impression in the House.
Send an E-mail message: http://capwiz.com/liberty/issues/alert/?alertid=4290501&type=CO
Call your senators: 202-224-3121
Kent Snyder The Liberty Committee http://www.thelibertycommittee.org |
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To: Congressman Billybob
Thank you for writing this. I went to bed at 4:00 AM not knowing the final outcome, but thinking it had probably failed to pass. I was stunned to read the next morning of the historic roll call (longest ever, true?), and that, apparently, some "arm twisting" had changed some Republican votes. I knew that wasn't true because the totals for the R's had not changed from when I went to bed.
27 posted on
11/23/2003 9:54:30 PM PST by
Quicksilver
(FreeRepublic.com is show prep for Rush)
To: Congressman Billybob
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To: Congressman Billybob
How did the Associated Press and various networks, and various "leading" newspapers like the Baltimore Sun and the Washington Post, blow the story so badly? It's not just a lack of people watching the voting process. The media template says that the House GOP, especially Tom Delay, hammers and coerces its members into voting the party line. Meanwhile, the media says that the Dems "work so hard" to hold the line against the bill.
In the last 40 minutes the CQ Weekly health reporter was on C-SPAN talking about the bill and saying (paraphrase, but quite close):
Nancy Pelosi worked very hard on this and was very, very, very intense in trying to hold her troops together. She got almost all of them united in her struggle against the dominant Republicans.
Something like that. She did say "very, very, very" literally.
34 posted on
11/24/2003 5:42:17 AM PST by
BillF
(Fight terrorists in Iraq & elsewhere, instead of waiting for them to come to America!)
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