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He can talk. What a surprise
The Sunday Telegraph (U.K.) ^ | 11/23/03 | Stephen Pollard

Posted on 11/22/2003 4:19:52 PM PST by Pokey78

Would you believe it? Not only can that Texan halfwit speak in proper sentences, he is even capable of reading a good speech and not fluffing his lines. It only goes to show what you can do with a speechwriter and some coaching. The response to President George W Bush's speech on Wednesday has been almost universally (and so typically Britishly) condescending. Few have criticised its content; since it ranks as one of the finest delivered by a visiting leader; that would be a sneer too far. Instead, reaction has been surprise, either feigned or genuine, that he managed to speak for so long, so well.

Mary Dejevsky, writing in The Independent, was typical: "Whoever has been coaching George Bush in oratory deserves the Presidential Medal of Freedom (and a congratulatory glass of champagne)." Almost the entire British chattering class seems to be animated by the same deep-seated contempt for Mr Bush. Even when confronted by the evidence of their own eyes and ears, that he is a thoughtful, charming, convincing, eloquent, intelligent, forceful leader, they cannot bring themselves to believe that he is as he seems. And when they do witness such positive traits, they are clearly being hoodwinked. As The Guardian began its leader on Thursday: "Conscious that he has a bit of catching up do to, George Bush turned on the charm yesterday."

No, he didn't. He spoke as he always does: with a clarity of moral and political purpose unmatched by any American politician since Ronald Reagan, and with a charm that all who have met him confirm is entirely natural. The speech should hardly have come as a surprise. After all, he spoke just as eloquently when interviewed by Sir David Frost last Sunday. But until now the chatterers have chosen neither to listen nor to see. Last week they had no alternative, and so decided it was a one-off.

What such attitudes really reveal, however, is not how much they loathe President Bush but the reality of - I choose my words carefully - anti-Americanism in Britain. It is a phrase that has been bandied about far too loosely of late and is usually intended - and taken - to mean a loathing and hatred of all things, and people, American.

Real anti-Americanism - the sort that lies behind so much of the hostility to President Bush - isn't about hating burgers and Matt Monro. It is far more subtle. The really damaging anti-Americanism - because it blinds its sufferers to reality - derives from that characteristically British sneering superiority which so permeates metropolitan and media circles. It is the conviction that the arriviste who has moved in next door with his flashy car and his gauche ex-model wife may have more money, own the business and be getting more sex, but he lacks what really matters: class. That Bush fellow is just so typically American: crude and unsophisticated.

The Sunday after the World Trade Centre attack, John Humphrys paraded the full scorn of the superior Briton, attacking the likes of George Bush who "damn those who did it as evil, as though there is nothing more to say, as though we still believe in a devil with a forked tail. Perhaps President Bush truly does - his Christianity is of a pretty fundamental variety."

It is not just President Bush. His predecessor, Bill Clinton, was equally American; just as fundamentally uncouth and unable to resist his gross appetites. But we humoured him, since he spoke our sort of language. What really offends about George Bush is that what you see is what you get, and what you see is a genuine American who makes no effort to be anything else. We can put up with Americans who seem ashamed to be American. Woe betide them, however, if they are proud of it. They will have to put up with our weapon of choice: the condescending sneer.


TOPICS: Culture/Society; Editorial; Foreign Affairs; News/Current Events; United Kingdom
KEYWORDS: bush43; condescendingliberal; threepillarsspeech; ukvisit
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To: Brad's Gramma
I didn't see that today (but I'm sure I've seen it before). PLEASE FIND AND POST IT! It would be great!!!
61 posted on 11/22/2003 8:03:08 PM PST by nicmarlo
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To: ElkGroveDan
I like to imagine the guards at Buckingham Palace dressed in Leiderhosen and a great big swastica atop the monument in Trafalgar Square.

My experience with those types of people is that they're far more like us than they are like the British Press.

Once I took a trip to London, which was hopelessly botched, and the inter-city tours scheduled ended up being scrapped as we missed the contacts. Not once but twice, (ex-military) Brits, upon hearing that I was on leave, took it upon themselves to show me around for a few hours at a time, at various historical locations.

These aren't the type of people the papers will usually end up quoting...

62 posted on 11/22/2003 8:04:21 PM PST by lepton
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To: MissAmericanPie
Man, you sure nailed that!
63 posted on 11/22/2003 8:08:09 PM PST by Kirkwood
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To: MissAmericanPie
I suppose because of some conceit over the age of their nations in comparison to ours.

Like France and Germany...both less than 60 years old.

64 posted on 11/22/2003 8:10:25 PM PST by lepton
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To: nicmarlo
I'm still looking....but I think it's flat out disappeared.
65 posted on 11/22/2003 8:24:04 PM PST by Brad’s Gramma (I'm goin' to LoganLand!)
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To: Brad's Gramma
Well, ping me if you ever find it.....which I may be hitting the hay here, real soon. Almost midnight...getting tired.
66 posted on 11/22/2003 8:47:48 PM PST by nicmarlo
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To: MissAmericanPie
The entire world is backward in comparison to the comprehension of most ordinary Americans, yet, funny as it is, they consider themselves the "enlightened ones". I suppose because of some conceit over the age of their nations in comparison to ours.


I think that's what galls them, the age of their nation in comparison to ours. In only 200+ years we have become the greatest and most powerful nation on earth and they are slouching towards irrelevence. That must be pretty hard for them to take.They still feel the need to be important.
67 posted on 11/22/2003 8:52:02 PM PST by Saints fan
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To: Pokey78
We can put up with Americans who seem ashamed to be American. Woe betide them, however, if they are proud of it. They will have to put up with our weapon of choice: the condescending sneer.

No we won't. I've spent the last of my precious, hard-earned American dollars in England. After the aggressive condescension I experienced from Brits on a couple of trips there a few years ago I'll never spend another penny in Albion. The scorn came from out the blue, just because we were American. I know we have friends there (I read the Telegraph every day and loved it!) But the America-haters can go pound sand and they can expect the same kind of treatment when they visit my area. Screw 'em!

68 posted on 11/22/2003 9:18:22 PM PST by Bernard Marx
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To: stands2reason
I just don't get it.

Me neither. :(

Then again, it fits their selfish M.O.

69 posted on 11/22/2003 9:41:37 PM PST by StriperSniper (The "mainstream" media is a left bank oxbow lake.)
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To: muir_redwoods
The landscape (here and abroad) is littered with the wreckage of fools who underestimated George W. It astounds me how many people believe that he doesn't know how to pronounce "nuclear". I am absolutely sure he does it the way he does it just to annoy people and lead them to think he's stupid.

I think you're right. I heard one of the American media talking heads note that Pres. Bush pronounced "nuclear" correctly in his speech in London.

70 posted on 11/22/2003 9:49:54 PM PST by ntnychik
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To: Saints fan
We are what happens when a nation respects God, builds their nation on Christian principles and receives in return blessings over flowing and unheard of in history.
71 posted on 11/22/2003 10:20:47 PM PST by MissAmericanPie
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To: Pokey78
mega-dittoes!!!!!
72 posted on 11/22/2003 10:48:03 PM PST by LiteKeeper
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To: nicmarlo; Hillary's Lovely Legs




HLL found it for me, nicmarlo. Now there, don't these pictures say a lot??? ....... Previewing this, those 2 in the bottom picture look, oh.... so irrelevant, don't they?
73 posted on 11/22/2003 11:02:40 PM PST by Brad’s Gramma (I'm goin' to LoganLand!)
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To: Pokey78
That Bush fellow is just so typically American: crude and unsophisticated.

He left out "unenlightened". I'm disappointed.

74 posted on 11/22/2003 11:10:34 PM PST by FlyVet
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To: Brad's Gramma
those 2 in the bottom picture look, oh.... so irrelevant, don't they?

Most irrelevant. Look at the pride in the face of the Queen as she looks at Laura. The change in mannerisms toward XXX42 and GW (throughout all those pics on the Queen and GW) is quite astounding (yet not, she probably wanted to puke standing next to XXX42 and Hitlery). Her Majesty looks like she's either tickled to death or just honored to be in GW's presence.

75 posted on 11/23/2003 4:09:28 AM PST by nicmarlo
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To: nicmarlo
The U.S. and the entire world have this tendency of misunderestimating (and/or putting down) George W. Bush ...

As The Guardian began its leader on Thursday: "Conscious that he has a bit of catching up do to, George Bush turned on the charm yesterday."

No, he didn't. He spoke as he always does: with a clarity of moral and political purpose unmatched by any American politician since Ronald Reagan, and with a charm that all who have met him confirm is entirely natural. The speech should hardly have come as a surprise. After all, he spoke just as eloquently when interviewed by Sir David Frost last Sunday. But until now the chatterers have chosen neither to listen nor to see. Last week they had no alternative, and so decided it was a one-off.

What such attitudes really reveal, however, is not how much they loathe President Bush but the reality of - I choose my words carefully - anti-Americanism in Britain. It is a phrase that has been bandied about far too loosely of late and is usually intended - and taken - to mean a loathing and hatred of all things, and people, American.

Thanks for the heads up on this article ...


76 posted on 11/23/2003 5:09:17 AM PST by MeekOneGOP (http://richard.meek.home.comcast.net/SorosClintoon.JPG)
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To: Pokey78; dighton; general_re
Meanwhile, full-time crank and ex-scientist, lectures the colonials on the evils of religion.


http://www.thecrimson.com/article.aspx?ref=350176
77 posted on 11/23/2003 5:11:38 AM PST by aculeus
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To: Jhensy
Such is the power of the worldwide left-wing propaganda machine. Right!
78 posted on 11/23/2003 5:15:17 AM PST by aculeus
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To: MeeknMing
yw; I just pinged you to another good read: Revealed: what the tearful President told the grieving relatives of Britain's war dead
79 posted on 11/23/2003 5:16:42 AM PST by nicmarlo
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To: nicmarlo
Her Majesty looks like she's either tickled to death or just honored to be in GW's presence.

Astute observations. I'm reminded that the Queen was seen to weep during a September 11th memorial (shortly after the event) while the snots on BBC were ganging up on American guests (on a program they wouldn't dare show on BBC America).

Perhaps the pro-Americans are found at the top of the British class system ... and at the bottom. Most cockneys seem to like us.

80 posted on 11/23/2003 5:23:28 AM PST by aculeus
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