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Bombshell: Kobe Accuser Had Sex with Key Witness
The Globe ^ | 11/20/03 | Globe

Posted on 11/21/2003 11:44:43 AM PST by Smogger

A new bombshell revelation in the Kobe Bryant case threatens to destroy the credibility of the prosecution’s key witness - whose testimony could send the basketball superstar to jail for years. Sources told GLOBE that the 19-year-old woman who has accused Bryant of rape told them she had sex with the prosecution’s star witness Bobby Pietrack - a week before she met Bryant.

Pietrack, a 23-year-old bellhop at the resort where the alleged rape took place, is the first person Katelyn Faber told about her encounter with Bryant. He can testify about her emotional state and physical appearance at the time.

But legal experts tell us that if there was a sexual encounter between Katelyn and the bellhop, it could wreck his credibility and sink the case of the Eagle County, Colo., prosecutor.

For all the details of this blockbuster story, pick up the new issue of GLOBE.


TOPICS: News/Current Events; US: California; US: Colorado
KEYWORDS: attackthevictim; co; declineoffr; felonycrank; frsinksverylow; katefaber; kobebryant; lakers; lowlifeposting; nba; rape; rapeshield; saddayforfr; scummingoffr; slimethevictim; smearthevictim; vileattack
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To: onyx



Strange isn't it, that "others" haven't come forward to claim sexual encounters with him

Not at all. Team Kobe is in hardball mode.


581 posted on 11/22/2003 12:01:27 AM PST by Sabertooth (No Drivers' Licences for Illegal Aliens. Petition SB60. http://www.saveourlicense.com/n_home.htm)
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To: onyx
I'm a genius and need no outside help whatsoever.

Prove it.

582 posted on 11/22/2003 12:03:25 AM PST by nunya bidness (Although my dreams may be tattered, my will, my heart battered, I know you will hear my cry)
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To: Indie
"I would say no history of rape is a weak argument in his favor considering his history of sex behind his wife's back. "

Huh ? Where are all the stories, the sordid details and the list of women clamoring for face time on TV or selling their story to a tabloids ? Sheesh. He has only been married for two years. He would have had to be a very busy fella to have found time for other women and his new bride in two short years.... He must have worked in a little time between all that skirt chasing to practice, train, play ball and film commercials.

583 posted on 11/22/2003 12:10:55 AM PST by Darlin' ("I will not forget this wound to my country." President George W Bush, 20 Sept 2001)
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To: nunya bidness
To "you" --- HA! what a total waste of time. You add nothing to threads --- you're just a hit and run coward. Good night.
584 posted on 11/22/2003 12:16:00 AM PST by onyx
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To: Smogger
If true,the allegation would certainly go to the weight that the jury would give his testimony but not necessarily destroy it, if there is corroborating evidence.
585 posted on 11/22/2003 12:19:29 AM PST by AmericanVictory (Should we be more like them, or they like us?)
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To: Sabertooth
In such a high profile case, surely wannabe starlets would come forward, along with others looking for either publicity or a pay-off. Methinks, he's not a "player."

Heck, Wilt Chamberlain bragged about how many thousand? Of course, I don't think Wilt ever married.
586 posted on 11/22/2003 12:20:00 AM PST by onyx
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To: nopardons
I must call it a night --- early morning obligations. Good night, ETOM.
587 posted on 11/22/2003 12:21:24 AM PST by onyx
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To: onyx
Pleasant dreams, ETOM.

Me too, BTW ... and I'm three hours later, here, than you. LOL

588 posted on 11/22/2003 12:22:31 AM PST by nopardons
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To: Sabertooth
"False dilemma. If he's innocent, he needs to prove that she's lying about the charge, not that she may or may not have had sex with other men. "

How does he go about proving that she is lying ? She opened the door for her immediate sexual history to be explored when she claimed injury, acknowledged having protected sex 2 days prior to the "alleged" rape, then showed up at the hospital bearing DNA from a caucasin on her person and on her underwear. What kind of attorney do you think Pamela Mackey is that she would allow that evidence to be supressed and deny her client a fair trial ? For most people the answer to that question is that she'd be a Fired Attorney and probably looking at disbarrment.

589 posted on 11/22/2003 12:27:23 AM PST by Darlin' ("I will not forget this wound to my country." President George W Bush, 20 Sept 2001)
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To: Sabertooth
She hasn't sued him... but, I suspect his people offered to pay her off, and that failed.

I think it is her mother who is pushing forward with the case.

Besides, if he loses, and is sent to prison, can't she then launch a civil case against his assets?
590 posted on 11/22/2003 5:16:34 AM PST by Pan_Yans Wife ("Your joy is your sorrow unmasked." --- GIBRAN)
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To: Darlin'
I will admit, you seem determined to take the facts and make them fit your opinion.

Uh, no. I make my posts based on the state of the record. The factual state of the record.

It's not my "opinion", it's the testimony on record.

As to why you seem to have a need to minimize the fact that her blood was found on his shirt and have others reassure you about it--that's your issue for whatever reason. I never quantified it one way or the other, except to note it was observed and it was there, and she bled enough to leave marks. If you wish to characterize it further as not much, go for it. I said I didn't see why her blood should be there but I plainly said that I was open to testimony about it.

591 posted on 11/22/2003 6:24:54 AM PST by cyncooper ("The evil is in plain sight")
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To: P-Marlowe
Aren't we interested here in getting to the truth?

Yes.

Funny how merely stating the facts gets some all riled up, though, with them making assumptions and all.

592 posted on 11/22/2003 6:35:35 AM PST by cyncooper ("The evil is in plain sight")
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To: Victoria Delsoul
What lie is she supposed to have told? Are you assuming she did not tell the investigators all?

I don't know if she did or did not, so would not presume to say she lied when I have know way of knowing. Wouldn't you agree if she told them right upfront about it, that she did not lie?

593 posted on 11/22/2003 6:40:18 AM PST by cyncooper ("The evil is in plain sight")
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To: FITZ
--- but a woman who is already carrying around a bit of DNA on her who heads up to a man's hotel room to spend some time alone with him just isn't as believable when she claims it was rape.

Please spell out how you make this statement as if it has a factual basis.

The underwear wouldn't be it, as that's a different pair.

The vaginal swabs can't be used to buttress your claim as they haven't been tested. And besides, some think (and I don't discount it, either, though I doubt it due to the bleeding) that she had sex with the bellman AFTER the Bryant incident, so she wouldn't be carrying anybody's DNA on her when she heads to his room.

594 posted on 11/22/2003 6:44:32 AM PST by cyncooper ("The evil is in plain sight")
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To: cyncooper; Sabertooth
Funny how merely stating the facts gets some all riled up, though, with them making assumptions and all.

I advocate for the facts and the truth to come out at trial and I am accused of being a Rah Rah boy for Kobe (I hate the Lakers and everything they stand for-- Go Kings!) and giving aid and comfort to rapists everywhere. What is wrong with these people that want to strip a man of his right to a defense against the type of charge that any one of us could be falsely accused of?

I have personally seen a boatload of false sexual harrassment claims in my practice. People lie about that at least as often as they lie about back and neck injuries. This woman clearly has something to gain from these charges, so the charges need to be scrutinized and the evidence needs to come in.

When the sole issue before the jury is whether or not a woman gave consent to a sexual act with a stranger after voluntarily playing tounge hockey with him in his hotel room, it is highly relevant, indeed crucial, to discover whether or not she had done the same or similar things in the past. It is an issue of credibility. She says she didn't consent, he said she did. If she had never given consent to casual sex before, then her testimony would be incredibly strong. However, the more casual sex she had, the more likely it would have been for her to have actually given consent to Kobe.

You can bet that if she was a virgin before this incident, that the prosecution would get that evidence in. And the evidence of that fact would be critical. Wouldn't the fact that she was a virgin before this incident be evidence of her sexual history? And wouldn't it be relevant to the issue of consent? And should evidence of that type be excluded as well? I don't think so. To deprive the victim of the opportunity to prove that she had never had casual sex before would be just as wrong as depriving the defendant in this case from being allowed to show that she made a habit of it.

598 posted on 11/22/2003 8:45:57 AM PST by P-Marlowe
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To: Motherbear
If my son were accused of rape, and I believed he was INNOCENT, you can bet your bottom dollar the reputation of the woman telling lies about my son would be OF NO CONSEQUENCE. In fact, I would probably hope her reputation would get smeared all over the place, so she couldn't falsely accuse another man.

If you can EVEN FOR A MOMENT, entertain the thought that he might be innocent, you could see plainly that her reputation means nothing to a man who might spend twenty years behind bars for a rape he didn't commit.

Then it clearly doesn't matter if the accused rapist is actually guilty or not, the reputation of the accuser isn't going to mean squat to the defendent. That's the reason behind rape-shield laws.

If you take away those protections from rape victims, you've given real rapists a very powerful tool with which to beat the rap, or avoid prosecution altogether.

In fact, sociopathic rapists would be the prime beneficiaries of such largesse.


600 posted on 11/22/2003 8:52:04 AM PST by Sabertooth (No Drivers' Licences for Illegal Aliens. Petition SB60. http://www.saveourlicense.com/n_home.htm)
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