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EYE ON THE ENEMY: What the PFAW is doing about School Vouchers
My Inbox (PFAW email). ^ | 11/21/03 | PFAW

Posted on 11/21/2003 4:01:55 AM PST by Ed_in_NJ

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They want "freedom to choose" when it comes to killing babies, but not when it comes to choosing a school.

Time for some "armchair activism," perhaps?

1 posted on 11/21/2003 4:01:56 AM PST by Ed_in_NJ
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To: Ed_in_NJ
Who is (are) the PFAW?
2 posted on 11/21/2003 4:04:52 AM PST by Aeronaut (In my humble opinion, the new expression for backing down from a fight should be called 'frenching')
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To: Aeronaut
The letters stand for People For the American Way (just the first of many, many lies).

They are a far-left advocacy group (rat Party front group).

3 posted on 11/21/2003 4:10:22 AM PST by Ed_in_NJ
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People For the American Way, the group started by Norman Lear, figures they can "tell us" what we are supposed to need. They're grasping at straws as far as vouchers are concerned.

They are more concerned with opposing the right and furthering their radical leftist agenda than with any school child's education.

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4 posted on 11/21/2003 4:11:34 AM PST by mhking
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Who is the PFAW?

PFAW was founded by TV producer Norman Lear who is an admitted hater of conservatives. Lear produced TV's "All in the Family" and "Maude" which proselytized abortion and the rest of the hate-filled liberal agenda to unsuspecting viewers.

Lear founded People for the American Way (PFAW) in the 1980's specifically to oppose conservative Christian groups. From Lear's PFAW Web site: "People For the American Way Foundation is the nation's pre-eminent expert on the day-to-day activities of the Religious Right. This essential 'watchdog' work involves keeping exhaustive records of what ultraconservative groups communicate to their own target audiences; being there to tell the truth when they deceptively tailor their messages for the mainstream media; and helping to organize other groups and communities to defeat the Religious Right."

Law-abiding citizens know that keeping dossiers on Americans is not the "American Way." If conservatives kept dossiers on liberals, the ACLU would go ballistic and file lawsuits all over the place.

We need to start now to place PFAW, Planned Parenthood, Americans United for Separation of Church and State, Southern Poverty Law Center, and the ACLU in their proper context. We need to wake up America to the hate crimes these groups are pepertrating on Christians.

The message is this: Individuals who promote abortion, and want to remove prayer and religious symbols from our culture are haters. They are hate-filled bigots. They hate religion. They hate religious people. They are law-breakers who are infringing on American citizens' constitutional rights.

These haters must be exposed for using unconstitutional religious tests to prevent conservative Christians from holding public office. At the core of these subversives' actions to remove all traces of Christianity are hate-filled sub-human beings who despise humanity. They must be exposed for who they really are: self-centered, spiteful, hate-filled bigots. These groups and the ACLU has been pushing their hate-filled agenda onto the rest of us for far too long.

The Ten Commandments are the basis of Western Civilization and drive laws like (1) Murder, (2) Theft, (3) Adultery, (4) Coveting (in sex harrassment or stalking case). These subversive, hate-filled groups are disavowing a huge body of laws analogous to the Ten Commandments.

The Christian-hating PFAW, ACLU, Planned, Parenthood, Americans United for Separation of Church and State, American Atheists, Humanist Association, Planned Parenthood, Southern Poverty Law Center, etc --- do not hesitate to disavow moral laws b/c at the heart of this Fifth Column's activities is a cynical scheme to undermine and weaken the US. And their "success" is apparent

The subversive anti-Christian Fifth Column haters haven't been emboldened enough to verbalize their hatred of religion, or to say that they loathe the people who practice religion (but that could change).

These haters usually offer some high-falluting, elliptical legal argument to justify infanticide, snatch the Ten Commandments, prayers, Christmas carols, religious symbols, and creches from so-called "public" places. Their arguments are always offered in unemotional voices, which makes the hate-filled devils believable to the uninitiated.

The hidden agenda of these religio-phobic groups is to decimate all references to morality b/c in their small, inferior, insular minds, morality equates to dreaded sectarian religious beliefs. How very successful they have been. Everyday we see their agenda's outcome as we experience unimaginable crimes, societal corruption, and the collapse of our once-thriving culture's moral underpinnings.

5 posted on 11/21/2003 4:32:29 AM PST by Liz
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Thanks, I think. That is a pretty chilling description of the PFAW and the other haters.

From the first amendment: Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof;

Why do those groups forget the second part of that statement?

6 posted on 11/21/2003 4:38:50 AM PST by Aeronaut (In my humble opinion, the new expression for backing down from a fight should be called 'frenching')
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To: Liz
Wow!

You're really "on" this morning!

Thanks.

7 posted on 11/21/2003 4:45:02 AM PST by Ed_in_NJ
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To: Aeronaut
.....First amendment: Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof;........ Why do those groups forget the second part of that statement?

Excellent point. One I've argued to exhaustion.

8 posted on 11/21/2003 5:51:41 AM PST by Liz
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To: Ed_in_NJ
Wow! You're really "on" this morning! Thanks

Hey, Ed, when am I ever not "on." LOL.

9 posted on 11/21/2003 5:54:53 AM PST by Liz
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In November 1998, the Supreme Court Justices let stand a Wisconsin state court ruling upholding the constitutionality of the school voucher program in Milwaukee. From an article in the New York Times . . .

"This was not an explicit endorsement of the Milwaukee program," Bolick said, noting that the Supreme Court simply avoided getting involved at present. "But it means that the highest court ruling on this is the Wisconsin Supreme Court, which held that Milwaukee's voucher program did not violate either the state or Federal constitutions."

The Milwaukee program is among the most explicit, allowing state money to be used specifically for religious schools. The program provides vouchers for up to $5,000 -- the estimated cost of educating a child in the public schools -- to as many as 15,000 of the district's 100,000 students. The grants are given to the poorest students and this year, they have been used at 122 private schools in the city, 89 of which are parochial, court documents show.

Predictably, this continues to draw the ire of organizations such as the ACLU, People For The American Way, WEAC, etc. The attacks on the program instituted in Milwaukee continue.

10 posted on 11/21/2003 5:56:08 AM PST by BraveMan
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Thanks Liz. PFAW is one of the most insidious and evil organizations in the United States today. They are playing a large part in the judicial filibusters, and I believe they generally have the Democratic Party leadership in their pocket - Lear and his cronies being big donors.

11 posted on 11/21/2003 6:00:20 AM PST by Rummyfan
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PFAW is one of the most insidious and evil organizations in the United States today. They are playing a large part in the judicial filibusters, and I believe they generally have the Democratic Party leadership in their pocket - Lear and his cronies being big donors.

Nice take. Thanks for posting your important insights.

12 posted on 11/21/2003 6:51:17 AM PST by Liz
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To: Liz
Point well made!
13 posted on 11/21/2003 12:47:24 PM PST by Ed_in_NJ
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To: Ed_in_NJ
If vouchers get through, what do you think these people will do?
14 posted on 11/21/2003 12:52:42 PM PST by Protagoras (Putting goverment in charge of morality is like putting pedophiles in charge of children)
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Other than throw a hissy-fit, I have no idea.
15 posted on 11/21/2003 3:25:43 PM PST by Ed_in_NJ
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To: Ed_in_NJ
This is so nuts. DC spends >$14,000/pupil each year. And the results are pretty close to the lowest in the country (I think Mississippi might be the one that ranks lower).
Private charitable groups give out scholarships of $3-4,000, and the waiting lines are in the hundreds.

Vouchers and charter schools are both better options than Union controlled job security. That is, if we want to educate children rather than guarantee plush jobs for a few.

16 posted on 11/21/2003 3:36:23 PM PST by speekinout
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Yeah right, Norm!

...I'd like to meet these so-called 'residents' PFAW spoke with. Bet you dollars to donuts the questions were probably loaded.

-Regards, T.
17 posted on 11/21/2003 5:57:40 PM PST by T Lady (Who Let the 'RATS Out?!!)
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To: Ed_in_NJ
Other than throw a hissy-fit, I have no idea.

In which case you have no imagination. they will never give up on their agenda and they will turn the silly voucher program back in your face in a decade or so. You won't recognise it and will wish you never introduced it if you finally do get an idea.

18 posted on 11/21/2003 9:00:49 PM PST by Protagoras (Putting goverment in charge of morality is like putting pedophiles in charge of children)
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To: Protagoras
Interesting.
19 posted on 11/21/2003 9:17:42 PM PST by Ed_in_NJ
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To: Aeronaut
Let me tell you about Ralph Neas, the president of PFAW. This guy is the most evil troll to ever crawl out of the primordial slime.

He invented "Borking" and perfected the process during the Clarence Thomas hearings. He is the puppetmaster for the entire judicial nominations filibuster debacle and he has endless amounts of cash to spend destroying the lives and careers and reputations of these judicial nominees. It is disgusting.
20 posted on 11/21/2003 9:28:20 PM PST by ConservativeGadfly
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