1 posted on
11/20/2003 5:14:54 PM PST by
hope
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To: hope
As I look at President Bush, I think he will ultimately be judged as a man of extremely high character. A very thoughtful man, not having been appraised properly by those who would say hes not very smart. I find the contrary. I think hes very, very bright. And I suspect that hell be judged as a man who led this country through a crease in history effectively. Probably well think of him in years to come as an American hero.
2 posted on
11/20/2003 5:20:00 PM PST by
visualops
(Nothing is fool-proof to a talented fool.)
To: hope
At least we have something to look forward to.
3 posted on
11/20/2003 5:21:18 PM PST by
tet68
(Tag note, I have not been able to verify the previous Patrick Henry quote so it has been removed.)
To: hope
Normally I'd say this is farfetched. But the fact that Tommy Franks believes this to be true is disconcerting, to say the least. He seems to be a very levelheaded guy who certainly isn't prone to exaggeration.
6 posted on
11/20/2003 5:27:09 PM PST by
NittanyLion
(Character Counts)
To: hope
He is the first high-ranking official to openly speculate that the Constitution could be scrapped in favor of a military form of government. HUGELY SIGNIFICANT BUMP.
7 posted on
11/20/2003 5:31:03 PM PST by
tubavil
To: hope
I'm not surprised that a military man might think that we would have a military government should a WMD hit.
10 posted on
11/20/2003 5:32:44 PM PST by
BikerNYC
To: hope
... the Western world, the free world, loses what it cherishes most, and that is freedom and liberty weve seen for a couple of hundred years in this grand experiment that we call democracy.
I think what Gen. Franks fails to grasp is that armed Americans will likely handle this situation before the Government can say "martial law". It will not be pretty.
To: hope
Gen. Tommy Franks says that if the United States is hit with a weapon of mass destruction that inflicts large casualties, the Constitution will likely be discarded in favor of a military form of government. Tommy forgot the 2nd amendment. It is there to protect the people from bone headed individuals with his line of thinking. He seems to forget that the military serves at the pleasure of the civilian government who in turn serves at the pleasure of the citizens.
21 posted on
11/20/2003 5:38:48 PM PST by
Myrddin
To: hope
All you good American citizens go run right out and register your guns. The military government will need to know who's got what the night they take over.
Those of you inclined to protest should have your protest permits on file, and the licensing fees paid up beforehand.
23 posted on
11/20/2003 5:39:07 PM PST by
The KG9 Kid
(Semper Fi)
To: hope
Scary
As far as I'm concerned, keeping Constitution is non-negotiable. That's just the way it's going to be as long as I'm alive.
Without freedom, there's nothing. When there's nothing, there's nothing left to lose.
25 posted on
11/20/2003 5:40:01 PM PST by
Dan from Michigan
("Today's music ain't got the same soul. I like that old time Rock N Roll" - Bob Seger)
To: hope
If true he said this, he should be removed immediately.
27 posted on
11/20/2003 5:40:05 PM PST by
lawdude
(Liberalism: A failure every time it is tried!)
To: hope
"Which in fact, then begins to unravel the fabric of our Constitution." Makes sense. Our constitution would not allow us to kill 1.3 billion Muslims.
28 posted on
11/20/2003 5:40:25 PM PST by
blam
To: hope
For those that believe in the Second Coming a major WMD attack in America would be the perfect prelude to a single identification system and a world leader
It doesn't take a Bible scholar to see the rise of anti-Semitism and terrorism and the falling of our country away from God.
29 posted on
11/20/2003 5:40:56 PM PST by
TSgt
(I am proudly featured on U.S. Rep Rob Portman's homepage: http://www.house.gov/portman/)
To: hope
Given the irreversible damage done over the past 70 years or so, I would hardly say the Constitution has "survived" today.
34 posted on
11/20/2003 5:43:47 PM PST by
newgeezer
(fundamentalist, regarding the Constitution AND the Holy Bible, i.e. words mean things!)
To: hope
What the ?!? You know, if someone in the clinton admin. had said this, I would be SURE they were hatching yet another evil plot. But someone in the Bush admin.? They aren't evil, and they're not prone to exaggeration. I do trust them, but this really makes me uneasy.
To: hope
America has a Constitution?
Since when?
Is the Supreme Court aware of that? Have they read it?
To: hope
The ancient Roman's, during the republic, provided for military leadership in times of crisis. They appointed a dictator (simply meaning leader, without the negative modern connotation) who ruled until the crisis passed.
Cincinnatus is the classic example of the Roman dictator. He was in his fields plowing when a runner came to him to inform him that he had been appointed dictator. He left his plowing, took care of the enemy, and returned to his fields. All in 16 days.
43 posted on
11/20/2003 5:47:49 PM PST by
Straight Vermonter
(We secretly switched ABC news with Al-Jazeera, lets see if these people can tell the difference.)
To: hope
I don't think that's a cigar Franks was smoking. I like the guy, but he's way off the mark here.
52 posted on
11/20/2003 5:54:33 PM PST by
Huck
To: hope
Know what? I really don't want to hear this...I do not wish to see my country, as I know it, die. Guess I have ostrich syndrome.
To: hope
The story is very believable, the sleepers are already here. Remember people, Bubba and Arafat met over 200 times in the White House, it's obvious they were not cementing an Israeli/Palestinian peace deal in those 200 visits. Yes, charcter counts when it comes to who is running the country.
To: hope; Travis McGee; Squantos; tet68; sneakypete; harpseal; Chapita; Always A Marine; Grampa Dave; ..
Gen. Tommy Franks says that if the United States is hit with a weapon of mass destruction that inflicts large casualties, the Constitution will likely be discarded in favor of a military form of government. It is not clear here whether Franks believes this would actually happen and whether he advocates or supports it.
I will say this, any officer, any member of the armed service, any government employee or any politician who would advocate this and move in support of it has violated their oath to uphold, defend and bear true allegiance to that very constitution and marked themselves as an enemy of the people.
We can survivie a WMD...we will not survive the destruction or setting aside of the Constitution.
The day any of these people and their lackeys, in their high glory and glass houses, try and do this is the day that Proposition 223 and the Rule of 307 will come into play.
Jeff
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