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Gen. Franks Doubts Constitution Will Survive WMD Attack
News Max.Com ^ | 11-21-03

Posted on 11/20/2003 5:14:53 PM PST by hope

Gen. Franks Doubts Constitution Will Survive WMD Attack

John O. Edwards, NewsMax.com
Friday, Nov. 21, 2003
Gen. Tommy Franks says that if the United States is hit with a weapon of mass destruction that inflicts large casualties, the Constitution will likely be discarded in favor of a military form of government.

Franks, who successfully led the U.S. military operation to liberate Iraq, expressed his worries in an extensive interview he gave to the men’s lifestyle magazine Cigar Aficionado.

In the magazine’s December edition, the former commander of the military’s Central Command warned that if terrorists succeeded in using a weapon of mass destruction (WMD) against the U.S. or one of our allies, it would likely have catastrophic consequences for our cherished republican form of government.

Discussing the hypothetical dangers posed to the U.S. in the wake of Sept. 11, Franks said that “the worst thing that could happen” is if terrorists acquire and then use a biological, chemical or nuclear weapon that inflicts heavy casualties.

If that happens, Franks said, “... the Western world, the free world, loses what it cherishes most, and that is freedom and liberty we’ve seen for a couple of hundred years in this grand experiment that we call democracy.”

Franks then offered “in a practical sense” what he thinks would happen in the aftermath of such an attack.

“It means the potential of a weapon of mass destruction and a terrorist, massive, casualty-producing event somewhere in the Western world – it may be in the United States of America – that causes our population to question our own Constitution and to begin to militarize our country in order to avoid a repeat of another mass, casualty-producing event. Which in fact, then begins to unravel the fabric of our Constitution. Two steps, very, very important.”

Franks didn’t speculate about how soon such an event might take place.

Already, critics of the U.S. Patriot Act, rushed through Congress in the wake of the Sept. 11 attacks, have argued that the law aims to curtail civil liberties and sets a dangerous precedent.

But Franks’ scenario goes much further. He is the first high-ranking official to openly speculate that the Constitution could be scrapped in favor of a military form of government.

The usually camera-shy Franks retired from U.S. Central Command, known in Pentagon lingo as CentCom, in August 2003, after serving nearly four decades in the Army.

Franks earned three Purple Hearts for combat wounds and three Bronze Stars for valor. Known as a “soldier’s general,” Franks made his mark as a top commander during the U.S.’s successful Operation Desert Storm, which liberated Kuwait in 1991. He was in charge of CentCom when Osama bin Laden’s al-Qaeda attacked the United States on Sept. 11.

Franks said that within hours of the attacks, he was given orders to prepare to root out the Taliban in Afghanistan and to capture bin Laden.

Franks offered his assessment on a number of topics to Cigar Aficionado, including:

President Bush: “As I look at President Bush, I think he will ultimately be judged as a man of extremely high character. A very thoughtful man, not having been appraised properly by those who would say he’s not very smart. I find the contrary. I think he’s very, very bright. And I suspect that he’ll be judged as a man who led this country through a crease in history effectively. Probably we’ll think of him in years to come as an American hero.”

On the motivation for the Iraq war: Contrary to claims that top Pentagon brass opposed the invasion of Iraq, Franks said he wholeheartedly agreed with the president’s decision to invade Iraq and oust Saddam Hussein.

“I, for one, begin with intent. ... There is no question that Saddam Hussein had intent to do harm to the Western alliance and to the United States of America. That intent is confirmed in a great many of his speeches, his commentary, the words that have come out of the Iraqi regime over the last dozen or so years. So we have intent.

“If we know for sure ... that a regime has intent to do harm to this country, and if we have something beyond a reasonable doubt that this particular regime may have the wherewithal with which to execute the intent, what are our actions and orders as leaders in this country?”

The Pentagon’s deck of cards: Asked how the Pentagon decided to put its most-wanted Iraqis on a set of playing cards, Franks explained its genesis. He recalled that when his staff identified the most notorious Iraqis the U.S. wanted to capture, “it just turned out that the number happened to be about the same as a deck of cards. And so somebody said, ‘Aha, this will be the ace of spades.’”

Capturing Saddam: Franks said he was not surprised that Saddam has not been captured or killed. But he says he will eventually be found, perhaps sooner than Osama bin laden.

“The capture or killing of Saddam Hussein will be a near term thing. And I won’t say that’ll be within 19 or 43 days. ... I believe it is inevitable.”

Franks ended his interview with a less-than-optimistic note. “It’s not in the history of civilization for peace ever to reign. Never has in the history of man. ... I doubt that we’ll ever have a time when the world will actually be at peace.”

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KEYWORDS: constitution; napalminthemorning; tommyfranks; wmd; wot
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To: small voice in the wilderness
These are uneasy times. Non like we have ever traveled before. Time to shore up what we hold dear and think with a clear vision.
41 posted on 11/20/2003 5:47:24 PM PST by hope
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To: hope
America has a Constitution?

Since when?

Is the Supreme Court aware of that? Have they read it?

42 posted on 11/20/2003 5:47:49 PM PST by P-Marlowe
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To: hope
The ancient Roman's, during the republic, provided for military leadership in times of crisis. They appointed a dictator (simply meaning leader, without the negative modern connotation) who ruled until the crisis passed.

Cincinnatus is the classic example of the Roman dictator. He was in his fields plowing when a runner came to him to inform him that he had been appointed dictator. He left his plowing, took care of the enemy, and returned to his fields. All in 16 days.
43 posted on 11/20/2003 5:47:49 PM PST by Straight Vermonter (We secretly switched ABC news with Al-Jazeera, lets see if these people can tell the difference.)
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To: hope
But this will all be over if one of the 9 dwarves, like H. Dean, get elected prez. I can only imagine a worse scenario---Hitlery runs and is elected. Try to imagine the Klintoons back in power. The idea is so repugnant and frightening I can scarcely stand to think about such a scenario. It would mean the end of the Republic for sure! We must work harder to prepare to defeat these traitors once and for all in 2004!
44 posted on 11/20/2003 5:50:31 PM PST by Paulus Invictus (RATS are traitors!)
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To: Monty22
that's quite an exaggeration, there would not be "anarchy" except perhaps in the immediate area of the attack. why would people in Ohio stop paying rent if Manhattan were nuked? We could have an earthquake in LA tomorrow that would do more damage then a small nuclear weapon, would we have anarchy everywhere in the US as a result?
45 posted on 11/20/2003 5:51:26 PM PST by oceanview
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To: oceanview
Who is going to stay in a major city once one, then another, gets vaporized?

You?

Think about it.
46 posted on 11/20/2003 5:52:24 PM PST by Monty22
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To: Monty22
You don't understand what a destroyed city will mean to this [country], or mass casualties from a bio attack..

How did Japan survive the destruction of Hiroshima? Sure, they were an imperial society at the time, but they are a democracy now. The whole country didn't fall apart.

I know that it isn't a perfect comparison, given that we were at war and they were a defeated society, but their civil life didn't end because of the bomb.

-PJ

47 posted on 11/20/2003 5:53:15 PM PST by Political Junkie Too (It's not safe yet to vote Democrat.)
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To: lawdude
Uh, he's RETIRED.
48 posted on 11/20/2003 5:53:19 PM PST by Salgak (don't mind me: the orbital mind control lasers are making me write this. . .)
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To: Paulus Invictus
Please one nightmare at a time!
49 posted on 11/20/2003 5:53:25 PM PST by hope
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To: Political Junkie Too
Japan survived cause they surrendered.

We have that option I suppose.. But one thing is for sure, our current lifestyle will be over.
50 posted on 11/20/2003 5:53:53 PM PST by Monty22
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To: Monty22
Don't be hysterical.
51 posted on 11/20/2003 5:54:02 PM PST by Huck
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To: hope
I don't think that's a cigar Franks was smoking. I like the guy, but he's way off the mark here.
52 posted on 11/20/2003 5:54:33 PM PST by Huck
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To: hope
Know what? I really don't want to hear this...I do not wish to see my country, as I know it, die. Guess I have ostrich syndrome.
53 posted on 11/20/2003 5:54:39 PM PST by madison10
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To: Huck
Don't be an osterich.

When it happens, watch..
54 posted on 11/20/2003 5:54:46 PM PST by Monty22
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To: Monty22
I'm more concerned with power hungry people like George Soros and John Kerry here at home than I am about the Islamics.
55 posted on 11/20/2003 5:56:09 PM PST by Dan from Michigan ("Today's music ain't got the same soul. I like that old time Rock N Roll" - Bob Seger)
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To: Dan from Michigan
Well, that's nice. But they aren't going to do the civilization ruining type damage the islamics are gonna do. Might be a crappy 8 years, but you won't be living in some shelter someplace most likely.

Cities will clear out, for good.. If a nuke lights off, and nobody knows who did it or how many more there are.

It'll be over.
56 posted on 11/20/2003 5:57:13 PM PST by Monty22
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To: visualops
Franks is right and the first person to really address what might happen if we're hit by a WMD. For one thing, the stock markets across the western world would collapse, making 1929 look like a slight dip. Millions would be thrown out of work and the economy would come to a standstill. Paychecks and government checks would stop flowing. Anarchy would follow unless the military steps in and inposes control. Those who think they are safe just because they live in Des Moines or Boise better get real. We're talking about the end of western civilization as we know it. Too bad the pols won't tell the sheeple this is what's in store for them if they keep up the current nonsense.
57 posted on 11/20/2003 5:58:08 PM PST by Cautor
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To: Dan from Michigan
I'm more concerned with power hungry people like George Soros and John Kerry here at home than I am about the Islamics.

...and Madame Hillary. She scares me. I would not put a$$a$ination beyond any of them.

58 posted on 11/20/2003 5:58:33 PM PST by madison10
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To: Cautor
I'm shocked that post 9/11, people still think there's some actual security. We're on the brink of destruction nationally, just like those that stayed in the WTC after the 93 bombing were just waiting for the end as well.
59 posted on 11/20/2003 5:59:07 PM PST by Monty22
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To: Monty22
did everyone flee all the cities in Japan after Hiroshima? how many nukes do you think the terrorists have? where are all these people going to go?
60 posted on 11/20/2003 5:59:07 PM PST by oceanview
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