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Mansoor Ijaz: Bin Laden in Iran
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Posted on 11/20/2003 3:24:55 PM PST by Dog

Mansoor Ijaz just reported Bin Laden is in Iran as of July.


TOPICS: Breaking News; Extended News; Foreign Affairs; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: 200307; 200311; binladen; brithume; elvisbinladen; foxnews; getosama; ijaz; iran; mansoorijaz; obl; ramadan2003
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To: ALOHA RONNIE
I like Woolsey more and more!

BUMP
201 posted on 11/20/2003 5:44:33 PM PST by Pan_Yans Wife ("Your joy is your sorrow unmasked." --- GIBRAN)
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To: the Real fifi
There's no PROOF he's dead. Can you imagine if the Administration announced OBL is probably dead, and he shows up somewhere in the next year? Think of how the media and their Democrat masters have portrayed the losses in Iraq since May 1 ... "This is the XXX American soldier who has died since President Bush announced the end of fighting on May 3."

"This is the third bombing carried out by Osama bin Laden since President Bush announced his death on November 20."

Until his DNA is confirmed, he's officially alive. So is Hitler.

202 posted on 11/20/2003 5:51:56 PM PST by ArneFufkin
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To: ArneFufkin
I just don't know. Doesn't he have access to a video camera?

What better way to taunt the West than to attack and then appear on videotape boasting?

I've seen no boasting...only threats of new attacks.
203 posted on 11/20/2003 6:01:13 PM PST by ConservativeMan55 (The left always "feels your pain" unless of course they caused it.)
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To: ArneFufkin
Plus if Bin Drinkin' has so many islamofascist (sic) and
arab (sic) friends that he can travel with impunity, why the disguise?
He didn't used to need a disguise when he made his videos.
Why would he need one now?
Unfortunately, without proof of his death,
he has as much power whether he is dead or alive
among his devilish followers.
204 posted on 11/20/2003 6:04:00 PM PST by Indie ("death was our business....and business was good" -MACVSOG)
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To: Pan_Yans Wife
The Enemy Within CLINTONS...

hate JAMES WOOLSEY more & more.
205 posted on 11/20/2003 6:08:12 PM PST by ALOHA RONNIE (Vet-Battle of IA DRANG-1965 www.LZXRAY.com)
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To: chemicalman
Nope, also too short. ;-)
206 posted on 11/20/2003 6:08:25 PM PST by StriperSniper (The "mainstream" media is a left bank oxbow lake.)
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To: contessa machiaveli
i hope mansoor is well protected by bodyguards he can trust.

Like bodyguards can protect you from a car bomb that levels two city blocks. His best bet is to stay out of the middle-east. And East Asia.

207 posted on 11/20/2003 6:14:48 PM PST by Smogger
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To: Dog
What if the the country we suspect of sending the anthrax....has nukes?

Firouz Mahvi, a member of the Foreign Relations Committee of the National Council of Resistance of Iran (NCRI) points to a map during a news conference in Vienna November 19, 2003. Mahvi said Iran continues to deceive the U.N. nuclear watchdog and even took the agency's inspectors to a decoy site to prevent them from uncovering an undeclared nuclear workshop. REUTERS/Leonhard Foeger

U.N. Lists Likely Nuclear Donors to Iran

By GEORGE JAHN, Associated Press Writer

VIENNA, Austria - The U.N. atomic agency has identified Russia, China and Pakistan as among the probable suppliers of equipment Iran used to conduct suspected nuclear weapons programs, diplomats said Thursday.

The diplomats spoke to The Associated Press as the International Atomic Energy Agency weighed how harshly to censure Tehran for two decades of covert nuclear activities Iran says were aimed at peaceful purposes.

The IAEA's 35-nation board is debating the wording of a resolution that would satisfy both U.S. calls for strong condemnation of Iran's past cover-ups and European desires to keep Iran cooperating by focusing on its recent openness.

Director-General Mohamed ElBaradei, the IAEA director-general, said agency delegates were discussing a "quite strong" resolution. The talks, which broke off Thursday after less than two hours, are to continue Friday.

While Iran has acknowledged nearly two decades of concealment, it has recently begun cooperating with the agency in response to international pressure. To that end, it has suspended uranium enrichment — an activity that has raised U.S. suspicions of a nuclear weapons agenda.

Iran says it enriched uranium only to produce power. While admitting that some of its enrichment equipment had traces of weapons-grade highly enriched uranium, it insists those traces were inadvertently imported on material it purchased abroad.

However, Tehran says it cannot identify the countries of origin because it bought the centrifuges and laser enrichment equipment through third parties.

The Vienna-based IAEA must know where the equipment came from if it is to ascertain whether Iran is telling the truth about the source of trace uranium.

The diplomats, speaking on condition of anonymity, declined to say how the agency established the probable origin of the equipment.

Pakistan, suspected from the start, has repeatedly denied any involvement.

Russia likewise denied that it was a willing participant in providing enrichment technology to Iran for the purpose of a nuclear weapons program.

Nikolai Shingaryov, chief spokesman for the Nuclear Power Ministry, told AP on Thursday that Russia signed a contract with Iran in the mid-1990s to deliver equipment that could be used for laser enrichment of uranium.

Moscow canceled the contract several years later in response to U.S. pressure, and the equipment, still in the experimental phase, "never reached Iran in full," he said.

A senior diplomat said Thursday's meeting was adjourned on Iran's request but that European nations and the United States were taking advantage of the break to bridge their rift on a resolution censuring Iran's past transgression while recognizing its new openness.

Reflecting the seriousness of the divide, President Bush was expected to take up the issue with British Prime Minister Tony Blair during his trip to London this week.

A senior diplomat said the Europeans were "now talking breaches of Iran's obligations to comply with safeguards agreements" that comprise part of the Nuclear Nonproliferation Treaty.

Such language would be more acceptable to the "Gang of Four" — the United States, Canada, Australia and Japan — who had held out for stronger wording, said the diplomat.

U.S. State Department spokesman Adam Ereli told reporters that Washington sought "firm action" from the board.

"We expect the board ... to find that Iran has been in noncompliance with its safeguards agreement and to report that noncompliance to the Security Council," he said.

In reality, diplomats at the Vienna meeting said the United States would likely settle for less — toughed-up language in a revised draft but no direct mention of the Security Council, which carries with it the implicit threat of sanctions.

Quoting from the still-evolving draft, another diplomat told AP the text welcomed Iran's recent cooperation and said the board "is operating on the assumption" that Tehran is giving the agency a "correct, full and final picture of Iran's past and present nuclear program."

But it also stated that the board "deplores past breaches of ...(Iran's) obligations" to comply with IAEA safeguards meant to prevent nonproliferation and "calls upon Iran to adhere strictly to the terms of its safeguard agreement in both letter and spirit."

Under the stronger draft, the board reserves the right to immediately call an emergency session should any evidence surface that Iran was guilty of "significant failures."

The board would then "decide upon measures to be taken," the document says, shorthand for possible Security Council involvement.

Opening Thursday's meeting, ElBaradei said agency doesn't know if Iran has tried to build nuclear weapons. That, ElBaradei told the board, "will take some time and much verification effort."

Characterizing Iran's recent cooperation as "very encouraging," he said he expected the agency's board to address "the bad news and the good news," in the resolution.

"The bad news is that there have been failures and breaches. The good news is that there has been a new chapter in cooperation," he said.

Reformers, hard-liners agree for once _ U.N. nuclear agency should rebuff Washington on Iran's nuclear program

208 posted on 11/20/2003 6:17:51 PM PST by TexKat (If you did not see it or read it, that does not mean it did or did not happen.)
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To: Dog
Go gettem Dog! (I am a GA Bulldog Fan, so I had to say that) It is time for a little pay back for the 444 days to Iran.

I am all for making a sheet of glass around that area.
209 posted on 11/20/2003 6:22:59 PM PST by SeeRushToldU_So (Libs want to take my money, my guns, and my land....then sodimize me.)
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To: Endeavor
I don't know whether to trust Mansoor or not, but he sure seems to have good contacts in the area.

Makes me wonder why Mansoor's contacts are not dead already.

210 posted on 11/20/2003 6:25:47 PM PST by TexKat (If you did not see it or read it, that does not mean it did or did not happen.)
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To: ALOHA RONNIE
Franch news TV (on UHF network called MHZ) said a few days ago that the US Govt in Iraq made an announcement that bin Laden was alive and had undergone radical plastic surgery to change his face.

I find it fascinating that this never made US TV news.

MHZ broadcasts foreign news all day long from various countries, with English subtitles on most programs. Their motto is, "news from the source, unedited."

Their Arabic news show pre-announced the big UN bombing ('bout a month or so ago) in Bagdad the day before, said it 3 times during the 22 minute broadcast.

http://www.mhznetworks.org/

211 posted on 11/20/2003 6:29:35 PM PST by japaneseghost
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To: the Real fifi
Does someone want to let the mad mullahs think they better quit mucking around because we think OBL is there and that adds urgency to our desire that they stop messing around in Iraq

I think this latest Ijaz appearance is disinformation. Sending a message to Iran about Iraq or holding and not extraditing various terrorists may be the purpose.

212 posted on 11/20/2003 6:35:01 PM PST by Dolphy
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To: Dog
Instead of MO....Blab! LETS Try.... MOAB!
213 posted on 11/20/2003 6:35:18 PM PST by winker
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To: OneTimeLurker
Just like the memo that about OBL and Saddam that Fox reported.

This has been impeached? News to me...

214 posted on 11/20/2003 6:38:59 PM PST by WhistlingPastTheGraveyard (Vietnam Veteran John "Vietnam" Kerry was a Vietnam Veteran who served in Vietnam..." - Lazamataz)
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To: japaneseghost
...Thank you for your French TV News update.

...I remember telling the French People, via a French TV News Crew that was covering ARNOLD's Recall Election night Victory in Century City, that they'd better make up their mind whether or not they're on the side of FREEDOM during a World War on Terrorism and then to back US backing them. To not do so would be at their own risk in Time of War.

...They were listening.
215 posted on 11/20/2003 6:45:19 PM PST by ALOHA RONNIE (Vet-Battle of IA DRANG-1965 www.LZXRAY.com)
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To: cgk
Hatch, was it?

I'm 99% sure.

216 posted on 11/20/2003 6:47:36 PM PST by StriperSniper (The "mainstream" media is a left bank oxbow lake.)
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To: Dog
Mansoor Ijaz told us, not very long ago, that UBL was cornered in a small section of Pakistan/Afghanistan.

Now he assures us that UBL is in Iran.

Doing what? Turning Shi'ite?

Iran doesn't have enough trouble without UBL stirring the pot?

Much easier to believe UBL arranged for a decoy. Or easier yet, mere disinformation. Unless you've got an ATM video saying otherwise, I'm not believing this.
217 posted on 11/20/2003 6:49:08 PM PST by Graymatter
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To: Pan_Yans Wife
Musharaff is only cooperating with America, because he has no choice.

I think he still would if he had a choice. Since long before 9/11, I always got the impression that he is an honorable man in a very difficult spot. He doesn't want to see is country continue along the radical path many are trying to take it. No matter how little it may seem that he does for us, only one thing matters, he keeps the nukes in check.

218 posted on 11/20/2003 7:04:49 PM PST by StriperSniper (The "mainstream" media is a left bank oxbow lake.)
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To: Dog
We must treat the Arab world as enemy. It is full of terrorist sponsoring regimes. I am not saying, however, that we should invade the whole Arab world.
219 posted on 11/20/2003 7:06:25 PM PST by yonif ("If I Forget Thee, O Jerusalem, Let My Right Hand Wither" - Psalms 137:5)
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To: StriperSniper
Pakistan facilitated the creation and growth of al Qaeda and the Taliban. It has long used terror to attempt to weaken the hold that India has on Kashmir.

I see Musharaff as an ally out of necessity, not out of good will.

Besides, he'll be dismayed to hear that OBL is in Iran... he won't be able to use that as leverage with America, if OBL has left.
220 posted on 11/20/2003 7:09:55 PM PST by Pan_Yans Wife ("Your joy is your sorrow unmasked." --- GIBRAN)
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