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Jackson to Surrender 2pm EST, 11am PST (Live Perp-Walk Not-Breaking News Thread)

Posted on 11/20/2003 10:49:29 AM PST by Hillary's Lovely Legs

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To: ozaukeemom
Very.
941 posted on 11/20/2003 4:49:29 PM PST by Howlin
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To: spectre
Thanks for heads up. ET comes on at 6:30 my time---just over half an hour from now. I will watch it.
942 posted on 11/20/2003 4:53:56 PM PST by cyncooper ("The evil is in plain sight")
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To: Howlin
Jackson is in LV, driving down the street, and people are coming up to the car and shaking his hand!

More echoes of the White Bronco "chase". I recall cheering crowds on overpasses and so on.

Oh, brother.

943 posted on 11/20/2003 5:00:55 PM PST by cyncooper ("The evil is in plain sight")
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To: cyncooper
"Brother" is right.

And every single black person I have seen talking about this on all the entertainment shows are saying that this DA has been targeting MJ.
944 posted on 11/20/2003 5:03:48 PM PST by Howlin
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To: Tijeras_Slim
I prefer them as well, for the same reason that you set forth. Tremendous torque = "pain control" without any real damage. I see some LEOs in real life and on TV ("Cops" and fiction) -- no disrespect or bravado intended -- and marvel at how they often have to struggle to cuff a perp or a skip.

Worse, I see them leading the guy while gripping the chain of their linked cuffs -- nice way to lose some fingers and provide entertainment and possibly escape for the more savvy "customer."

Worse yet, a guy cuffed on only one wrist can use the chain plus an opened/"unoccupied" cuff as a weapon every bit as nasty as chuks, when you factor in having your eyeball plucked out with a flip of a (cuffed) wrist. Bad fate for a dedicated server & protector or professional private operator.

For all the unearned crap we catch, I'm convinced that many professional bail recovery agents are better trained in some tradecraft than are some LEOs -- including the FBI, but not the USMS, of course. Stay safe.....

945 posted on 11/20/2003 5:11:18 PM PST by tracer
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To: Hillary's Lovely Legs
LOL - that's funny!
946 posted on 11/20/2003 5:25:30 PM PST by CheneyChick
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To: Howlin
Ha - I loved those lips--- :)
947 posted on 11/20/2003 5:26:44 PM PST by CheneyChick
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To: Howlin
ET just started and in the opening where they play clips to tease upcoming stories they show Debbie Allen saying how he is such a good father...
948 posted on 11/20/2003 5:32:01 PM PST by cyncooper ("The evil is in plain sight")
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To: Tijeras_Slim
BTW, betcha 100-to-1 that he skips, having posted bail.

MJ is now in Vegas, having managed to finally release his latest musical project, and now has everything to gain by pulling a Polansky.

It has been reported widely today that he hired Geragos last March and knew that this day would come. Fleeing directly from Las Vegas yesterday would have spelled GUILTY in 65-point type.

Now he has until his arraignment on 01/09/04 to pretend to mentally dissociate, to leave a suicide note, to be "forcibly abducted" by his loyalists, etc., etc.

If his finances are as shaky as variously reported, he may well have had to post a surety bond. And that is good, for reasons that are best left as a surprise -- for a slippery freak trying to leave a bail bondsman holding a $3 million bag.......

949 posted on 11/20/2003 5:32:43 PM PST by tracer
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To: Darlin'
Actually, I wasn't joking, I'm sorry to say. All the best....
950 posted on 11/20/2003 5:35:40 PM PST by tracer
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To: spectre
In addition to the "secret room", there are guest bedrooms they showed with Peter Pan sheets and the like that are accessible only by going through Jackson's bedroom.
951 posted on 11/20/2003 5:36:13 PM PST by cyncooper ("The evil is in plain sight")
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To: Howlin; spectre
Katie Couric actually said on ET that she's not paid to have an opinion.

Hmmmmmmmmm

I could swear I can tell what her political opinions are just from her facial expressions. Not to mention tone and content of her "questions".

And Liz Smith has decided it's the lawyers' fault. Nobody gave him good advice not to hang around kids so much.
952 posted on 11/20/2003 5:40:04 PM PST by cyncooper ("The evil is in plain sight")
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To: tracer
"Perp skip",,,LOL, that is an hysterical image.
953 posted on 11/20/2003 6:11:18 PM PST by cajungirl (no)
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To: cyncooper
Jackson paid 20 million dollars and still didn't learn his lesson. No one should have had to tell him NOT to have little boys sleep over.

BTW, look for Geragos to sink to a new low, saying that MJ only invited "little boys" to stay the night, because he didn't want to be accused of molesting little girls..I swear, Mark will try this..

PS .. Who does Katie think she is fooling, LOL.

954 posted on 11/20/2003 6:23:04 PM PST by spectre (Spectre's wife)
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To: hattend; All
I have been sitting here watching the footage of this sad event.
The bizzare spectale of this man who is accused of a most henous crime walking out of the polce station flashing the victory sign and blowing kisses.
Then he is dashed off with great fanfare back to the airpot. He flies back to Vegas where his CHILDREN are brought onto the plane, covered with blankets.
He then enters an SUV, more than likely with his children, and proceeds to drive a slow 90min trek to a private resort. All the while stopping on the street and rolling the window down, exposing those children to yet another freak show...not to mention the possiblity that some zealot could stick a gun in the window ...What a sick spectacle!
I fear for those children that he duped some sick deluded woman to produced like a brood mare. She is as sick as he is. I will pray for those children and any children that have had any contact with that freak.
955 posted on 11/20/2003 7:11:01 PM PST by Jackie-O
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To: Jackie-O
What bothers me about following this story, Jackie, is that I believe there will be no justice in the end no matter what happens.

Outwardly, more often than not, pedophiles are nice, kind, compassionate, loving, gentle type people. How often do we hear of a pedophile that "he was really great with kids... loved kids, etc."? It makes me angry that this is so, b/c then when the pedophile is caught doing things with kids that will ruin the kids' lives, there are always lots of people who come forward and talk about what a "great guy" he is.

They can throw the book at Jackson, and considering the penalties usually on the books for sexual fondling, or similar crimes, it won't be more than a few years.

Even if he were found guilty and sentenced, he would be treated as a first offender and would be given the lower-end sentence. Furthermore, with good time, etc., he would probably serve little of that.

If he did go to jail, his money would still serve to make it an almost painless experience. Money buys stuff, even in jail.

He may never be proved to have done anything, b/c certainly the parents of these victims are often not right in the head, and therefore may not be credible witnesses.

Ditto for the children victims. But then, how could anyone expect a child who has been repeatedly sexually victimized to be emotionally sound enough to be a determined and consistent witness?

In the meantime, the publicity will help this creature to sell stuff. Celebrities have figured out that in our culture, notoriety is as good as any other type of publicity.

All of the above make me feel that following Michael's case is probably an exercise in futility. There's nothing to root for. Even if he has molested boys--and I think he has--he'll be free to molest again, before, during, and after his trial.

PS As for all his surgery and bleaching of his skin, he is looking more and more like a thin version of Monica Lewinsky.
956 posted on 11/20/2003 8:23:09 PM PST by Devil_Anse
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957 posted on 11/20/2003 9:35:55 PM PST by ppaul
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To: ppaul
Boy, Monica has sure lost weight! Her cheeks look all sunken.
958 posted on 11/20/2003 9:45:01 PM PST by Devil_Anse
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959 posted on 11/20/2003 10:14:05 PM PST by ppaul
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Remember this at the time of the trial.

"Today I made an appearance downtown.
I am an expert witness, because I say I am
And I said, 'Gentlemen....and I use that word loosely...
I will testify for you.
I'm a gun for hire, I'm a saint, I'm a liar.
Because there are no facts, there is no truth
Just data to be manipulated.
I can get you any result you like.
What's it worth to ya?
Because there is no wrong, there is no right
And I sleep very well at night.
No shame, no solution
No remorse, no retribution
Just people selling t-shirts.
Just opportunity to participate in the pathetic little circus
And winning, winning, winning'"

Don Henley "The Garden of Allah"

960 posted on 11/20/2003 10:41:18 PM PST by BulletBobCo
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