Is Iron Causing All the Flares?

Universe Today ^ | 11/18/03

[Cold Heat]

What is the maximum temperature of your arc furnace, in Centigrade?

Golly, I can't remeber the details.

It had 16inch electrodes.

I suppose the temp would be in line with the specs of a general electric arc.

Oxygen was also introduced to the molten metal to burn off impurities and carbon. It got damn hot.

If this scientist had said that the suns core was Nickle, or Chromium, or something stable like those metals, I would not be so pigheaded.

Iron reacts and combines with a number of other elements and does not need much encouragement to do so. I would think that a sun with a iron core would/could be a bomb waiting to go off. IMHO.

[Cold Heat]

Plasmas only strip (varying numbers of) electrons from a nucleus.

Ok, understood.

I was confusing the resulting slag of a plasma cutter with plasma behavior. The cutter injects air/or other gasses into the equation.

The result is oxidized slag.

[Cold Heat]

Centigrade?

I think they measured in Kelvin. The stuff I find on the internet says 10-20 thousand K.

That seems to check with my recollections.

[Calvin Locke]

I looked up an old post. Art Bell on 9/20 Saturday, read a NASA release about a highly magnetic star disrupting comms
that week. (Before the current deluge of sunspots).

Anyway, I couldn't remember if they (NASA/Bell) said 40 or 40K lightyears away. I do remember the guest was a physicist
later in the show, and basically said "Yeah, right. Just because there is no known/understood cause for the
disruptions..."

In any case, I have to look up the Crab Pulsar.

[PatrickHenry]

P L A C E M A R K E R

[Paul Ross]

Bump. T

AK. Thanks for the publications list! O. Manuel sure has been slogging through. The meteorite evidence is suggestive. With the alternative 'neutron-star remnant core' solar composition hypothesis, I imagine there is a lot of heated discussion going on at the blackboards. Has anybody attempted to find additional evidence of the 'superfluid' or 'superconductive' iron through re-evaluation of solar spectra? Or is the coronsphere and solar wind purely a phenomena of the outer shell gases...and would they completely mask all evidence of inner composition? What about the rotational dynamics? I.e., the notion of the neutron core spinning to account for the planetary orbital dynamics. Does the current rate of solar rotation track with the rest of the planetary system? Or is there a plausible discontinuity between the neutron core rotation rate and the external layers of gas? The explanation of the theory for planetary composition sure makes intuitive sense.

[Light Speed]

For those reading along this thread;

Sun is Electric...it is an Anode

Electric Galaxies
Snippets:

The kind of electric discharge I conceive to be responsible for solar radiation must necessarily be driven by an electric potential in interstellar space--a condition to be expected in a galaxy electrified by the separation of charges on a truly magnificent scale.
Just such a situation is postulated by Bruce, who explains the spiral arms of our galaxy as electrical discharges initiated by the breakdown of a radial electric field extending through the entirety of galactic space. And just such a situation could provide the enormously high space potential (negative) that the discharge hypothesis requires.

As I see it, then, the sun, already negatively charged to an extremely high electric potential, behaves as an anode and collects more negative charge because its interstellar environment has a potential that is even higher, in the negative sense. It is a matter of relative potentials.

By analogy with electrical discharges studied in the laboratory, we can predict certain conditions that should prevail in interplanetary space if the sun is indeed fueled electrically. For now, I would mention only this: The interplanetary medium near the earth seems to be characterized by approximately equal numbers of protons and electrons, which fact identifies it as a true plasma. Farther out--say, near the orbit of Jupiter--the protons should be traveling away from the sun with considerably increased velocities, and the electrons should be present in lesser numbers than the protons.

Electric Sun

The Sun, our Variable Star, Nov/2003

[SunkenCiv]

Marvin Herndon mentioned on this newer thread linked below:

Scientific maverick's theory on Earth's core up for a test
SF Chronicle | Monday, November 29, 2004 | Keay Davidson
Posted on 12/05/2004 11:17:28 AM PST by SunkenCiv
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-chat/1294934/posts

[SunkenCiv]

The iron sun model hasn't gained currency. Get it? Currency?!? I kill me. This is yet another topic from the "iron" keyword, and should be considered fitting into the "Catastrophism and Astronomy" category of GGG.

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Dr. Oliver Manuel, a professor of nuclear chemistry, believes that iron, not hydrogen, is the sun’s most abundant element. In a paper accepted for publication in the Journal of Fusion Energy, Manuel asserts that the “standard solar model” -- which assumes that the sun’s core is made of hydrogen -- has led to misunderstandings of how such solar flares occur, as well as inaccurate views on the nature of global climate change.

Isn't this the guy who said the sun's core was frozen???

[UCANSEE2]

I've been discussing it for weeks, along with dark matter, speed of light, and get told my theories are wrong, what do I have to back them up.

Then, here comes another published article along the same lines as my theory. Just makes me feel better to know I am not the only nut.

[UCANSEE2]

then where'd all its hydrogen come from?

Maybe the huge clouds of hydrogen we see all over the universe.

[Paul_Denton]

I think they measured in Kelvin. The stuff I find on the internet says 10-20 thousand K. That seems to check with my recollections.

Holy sh!t. What is used to keep the furance container from melting? even Tungstun would melt in those condtions.

[UCANSEE2]

I thought I'd read somewhere that the temp and pressure necessary to get an iron fusion reaction going was something that could only be reached on a giant star.

And every day the laws of the universe are remade. We have a magnetar that surprised the crap out of us, then someone along a line to the galatic center, we received a THUMP-THUMP-THUMP-THUMP-THUMP type message that we still have no idea what could have caused it.

In truth, there is very little we really 'know' about the solar system, the galaxy, the universe.

[UCANSEE2]

What you said.

[UCANSEE2]

To answer the TITLE OF THIS POST, no. Iron is not 'causing' all the flares.

[Doctor Stochastic]

You're correct. We know (and have known for some years) the masses of the Sun and other planets.

[Doctor Stochastic]

It does.

[Lurkina.n.Learnin]

"And every day the laws of the universe are remade"

Nah, Just our perceptions are remade.

[msdrby]

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