To: JohnHuang2; *puff_list
You're on a roll this morning. It's hard to keep up. :)
Another good one from Mr. Williams.
To: JohnHuang2
I love(ed) the Florida smoking ban.. I now know that it is wrong for me to push my will on others. Thank you Dr. Williams.. you just burst my bubble.
But can't the office stay smoke free?
I hate smoke so much .. I do not want to work in an ashtry!
5 posted on
11/19/2003 5:31:05 AM PST by
Tank-FL
(Keep the Faith - VMI Thanksgiving furlough begins on Nov. 25. hang in there son!)
To: JohnHuang2
No smoking should be a house rule, not a constitutional ammendment.
To: JohnHuang2
The Civil Rights movement of the 1950's and early 1960's was largely a good thing. But I believe the judicial concept of "public accomodation" began at that time, and that was a bad thing. Who can sit at the lunch counter? It used to be the decision of the owner of the lunch counter -- but that is no longer so.
When courts decide that the Boy Scouts at a "public accomodation" then it means that homosexuals cannot be excluded from leadership positions.
Nowadays, we are told to look back at some judicial decisions and see how wrong they were. The two classic examples I learned (in public school) were "Dredd Scott" and "Plessy v Ferguson (separate but equal)". I believe that some day we will look back at the "public accomodation" concept and shake our head at the problems it created.
7 posted on
11/19/2003 5:39:18 AM PST by
ClearCase_guy
(France delenda est)
To: Gabz; Flurry; Just another Joe; SheLion
"Just because an establishment deals with the public doesn't make it public property.
The liberty-oriented method to resolve conflict is through the institution of private property. In fact, conflict resolution is one of the primary functions of private property, namely it decides who gets to decide how what property is used in what way. Put another way: Who may harm whom in what ways?"
The nail on the head bump!
9 posted on
11/19/2003 5:53:27 AM PST by
CSM
(Stop the MF today!!! (Flurry, 11/06/2003))
To: JohnHuang2
Williams, as usual, is brilliant and direct.
Thanks for the post !
12 posted on
11/19/2003 6:28:05 AM PST by
jimt
To: JohnHuang2
State control of private property is fascism.
Anytime someone says the state should control private property by banning smoking, that person should publicly and loudly be labeled as a fascist. And why not - that's what he is.
Just stand up, point your finger and say: "Fascist. Fascist. Fascist. You're a fascist."
Don't let him change the subject, just call him a "goosesteeping fascist." You're on solid ground both in meaning and legally. It's time to put these Nazis in their place - standing next to their buddies Hitler and Mussolini.
15 posted on
11/19/2003 6:43:54 AM PST by
sergeantdave
(You will be judged by 12 people who were too stupid to get out of jury duty)
To: JohnHuang2
I just finished a fascinating book by Kyle Mills called Smoke Screen
here at Amazon
Basically, the tobacco industry is getting clobbered by law suits and losing billions in settlement money, so finally they withdraw their products and close their productions until they receive iron clad protection against being sued.
They admit their products are bad for you and will kill you, but since it is a legal product, it should be a matter of personal choice whether to kill yourself or not (suicide on the installment plan is what a friend of mine calls it).
I hate smoking and would frequent restaurants and businesses that didn't allow smoking over those that did, but at the same time, where does the line get drawn where the govt can and can't control your life.
21 posted on
11/19/2003 8:38:45 AM PST by
LakerCJL
To: Wolfie; vin-one; WindMinstrel; philman_36; Beach_Babe; jenny65; AUgrad; Xenalyte; Bill D. Berger; ..
WOD Ping
24 posted on
11/20/2003 10:50:46 AM PST by
jmc813
(Have you thanked Jeb Bush for his efforts in the Terri Schiavo case yet?)
To: JohnHuang2
BUMP
32 posted on
11/20/2003 12:24:04 PM PST by
Publius6961
(40% of Californians are as dumb as a sack of rocks.)
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