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Kennedy assassination solved!

Posted on 11/19/2003 1:33:19 AM PST by Az Joe

Oswald did it, alone. Now give it up!

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KEYWORDS: assassination; kennedy; kennedyassassination
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To: FreedomCalls
I haven't seen it in years, it fell out of vogue in the late 80s (really trying to present the photo as a JFK autopsy shot is laughable) and frankly I don't give enough of a damn to go looking for it. You do aknowledge that some of the "evidence" that has been "leaked" over the years by boths sides has been faked don't you. You're way more hung up on this than I ever was or will be.
201 posted on 11/20/2003 5:05:20 PM PST by discostu (You figure that's gotta be jelly cos jam just don't shake like that)
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To: discostu
The thing that has always struck me about this case was the unexplained disapperance of evidence. John Kennedy's brain was removed and disappeared. The original autopsy records were destroyed (by the coroner, I believe). There are no surviving notes or recordings of Oswald's police interogations. There are those who were in Dealy Plaza who claim that film was taken from them that never saw the light of day.
And of course, the prime suspect was murdered in police custody and thus forever silenced.
The History Channel described how the presidential limosine was flown to Washington, taken to the White House garage, and then for two days no one logged in to examine the car. The crime of the century, Oswald dead, no one at the time could have known if Oswald had acted alone only two days after the assassination, and nobody was even curious to go look at the limosine? (they claim that the car was really taken to Detroit to have the windshield replaced).
I don't claim to be an expert, and I have no idea what really happened, but I just think its just a little odd that a great deal of important evidence doesn't exist. To me, the events in Dallas in November 1963 border on the surrealistic.
202 posted on 11/20/2003 7:04:26 PM PST by fhayek
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To: fhayek
About those autopsy records. The originals were destroyed and there's a simple reason for that. They weren't records. There were handwritten notes made during the autopsy. The coroner took them home to recopy them and since the old notes were covered in blood and bodily fluids, they were tossed into the fireplace.

It's the same as re-copying your homework before turning it in.

Oswald died in police custody but not by an officer's hand. They had promised the media they would display their prize catch of the day. A dozen of so years earlier and they would have stood back for a necktie party. The only people who mourn Oswald are the conspiracy types.


The limo was taken apart piece by piece and they found bullet fragments that have to be seen through a magnifying glass. The windshield was cracked by the third bullet. There are pictures all over the web if you want to see the car and what they found only if you're interested.

Why didn't anyone take Zapruder's camera? He was the most prominent person with a movie camera nearest the picket fence?
203 posted on 11/20/2003 8:37:49 PM PST by Shooter 2.5 (Don't punch holes in the lifeboat)
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To: Az Joe
Hey Joe, let us all know how Oswald could take out the back of Kennedy's head from the front while shooting from the School Book Depository...that's one trick shot we would all like to learn how to do...ROFLMAO
204 posted on 11/20/2003 9:22:31 PM PST by kellynla ("C" 1/5 1st Mar Div. Viet Nam 69 &70 Semper Fi!)
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To: FreedomCalls; Shooter 2.5
Service grade ammunition issued with the service grade weapon.

A bullet of the type used in a Mannlicher-Carcano service rifle perhaps? A 6.5x52mm Mannlicher cartridge. Would you have difficulty understanding what I was talking about if I referred to an M16A2 bullet? It's the 5.56x45 cartridge. How about the AK-47 bullet? It is a 7.62x39 Soviet cartridge. Most service rifles shoot only one type of bullet. Especially when referring to the Kennedy "magic bullet" theory the bullet being referred to is a 6.5x52mm Mannlicher.

Thank you for the explanation

In the circles I travel a BULLET is almost always a component of the CARTRIDGE known as the PROJECTILE.

Hence a Mannlicher-Carcano BULLET would be a specific design-ogive, boattail, construction etc.

Reloading manuals generally refer to specific cartridges- 7mm Weatherby Magnum, 7mm Remington Magnum, 6.5 Carcano, even the 30 M1 Carbine with a variety of BULLET weights and designs offered

I would be very confused if someone referred to M16A2 BULLET since the A2 is a variant of the dreaded M16 which has been altered and modified endlessly over three decades in almost every aspect- barrel twist, bullet weight, bullet design, powder charge, mechanism design etc. and it remains a finicky, fiddly service weapon in harsh combat environments.

As to keyholing, again, in the circles I travel it is an indication of inherent inaccuracy for any number of reasons- bad BULLET design, cartridge/firearm incompatability,powder charge,barrel twist,weight etc.

Many thanks again for the explanation. Apparently through the miracle of the Internet it is now possible to visit sites with every variation of these discussions without repeating them.

It has been very educational.

Best regards

205 posted on 11/21/2003 5:46:35 AM PST by Copernicus (A Constitutional Republic revolves around Sovereign Citizens, not citizens around government.)
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To: Copernicus; FreedomCalls

Gelatin test of a Mannlicher-Carcano.

206 posted on 11/21/2003 6:06:46 AM PST by Shooter 2.5 (Don't punch holes in the lifeboat)
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To: Paleo Conservative

207 posted on 11/21/2003 6:08:38 AM PST by SerpentDove (www.neatophotos.com)
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To: Shooter 2.5
Are you aware that the neck wound was described by the medical examiners as an "entrance wound"? That the doctor (Malcolm...something, I can look it up)...said he probed the neck wound with his gloved fingers and could feel where it stopped, and that it was an entrance wound?
208 posted on 11/21/2003 6:19:01 AM PST by SerpentDove (www.neatophotos.com)
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To: Shooter 2.5
>>Mr. Connelly heard the shots from the rear.<<

Your witness also went to his grave claiming there was more than one shooter.
209 posted on 11/21/2003 6:20:01 AM PST by SerpentDove (www.neatophotos.com)
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To: metalboy
What if Oswald's shot was a bit "off center"

What if it entered the rear right side, and exited the front right side?

Wouldn't a "one sided" hit like that cause the "explosive" look to the right side of Kennedy's head?
210 posted on 11/21/2003 6:27:37 AM PST by Johnny Gage (If Peanut Butter cookies are made with peanut Butter, what are Girl Scout cookies made with?)
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To: Az Joe
What do you make of the fact that the bullet wound in the front of the neck does not exit out the back?

And that the examining doctor said he stuck his finger into the wound and could feel where it ended?
211 posted on 11/21/2003 6:29:59 AM PST by SerpentDove (www.neatophotos.com)
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To: SerpentDove
Emergency room doctors don't examine cause of death. The medical examiner does.

Governor Connelly, in all due respect, had other things on his mind other than counting shots and determining distance and location.
212 posted on 11/21/2003 6:33:50 AM PST by Shooter 2.5 (Don't punch holes in the lifeboat)
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To: Shooter 2.5

The magic bullet

213 posted on 11/21/2003 6:39:21 AM PST by dogbyte12
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To: Shooter 2.5
Sorry, you can't make this fact go away. Facts are stubborn things.

Why is the neck wound found on the front of his neck, with no exit wound?

And I believe it WAS the medical examiner, Malcome something-or-other, but I couldn't swear to that. Regardless, he was a qualified examiner, who said the neck wound was an entry wound.

Are you suggesting he didn't know what he was talking about?
214 posted on 11/21/2003 6:39:37 AM PST by SerpentDove (www.neatophotos.com)
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To: SerpentDove
Read the medical examiner's report.
215 posted on 11/21/2003 6:43:54 AM PST by Shooter 2.5 (Don't punch holes in the lifeboat)
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To: dogbyte12
Look at it from the bottom.
216 posted on 11/21/2003 6:44:48 AM PST by Shooter 2.5 (Don't punch holes in the lifeboat)
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To: Shooter 2.5
Where is the exit wound from the neck?

Simple question. Doesn't require a medical degree.
217 posted on 11/21/2003 6:48:01 AM PST by SerpentDove (www.neatophotos.com)
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To: Shooter 2.5
BTW- not trying to be combative with you, please don't misunderstand...just a forum, with a topic that by and large is irrelevant in the grand scheme of things now.

:-)
218 posted on 11/21/2003 6:50:17 AM PST by SerpentDove (www.neatophotos.com)
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To: dogbyte12
Some older military rounds had very thick copper jackets, which preclude expansion. I have shot some .45 ACP stuff from the 30's into a 55 gallon drum filled with sand that were just scratched when recovered.
219 posted on 11/21/2003 6:51:36 AM PST by Tijeras_Slim (SSDD - Same S#it Different Democrat)
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To: smiley
When I lived in Dallas I went to Dealy Plaza, and to the Book Depository Museum.

Two things struck me. One, in order for Oswald to hit Kennedy, he would have to lean out of the window , bend to the left and hold steady. Two, if someone wanted to escape the area where it looks like the shots were fired from on the grassy knoll area ,all they had to do was go around a flimsy little picket fence and, Bingo.. nothing but railroad tracks and highways. They could have disappeared into thin air, very quickly. Espicially while everyone was looking in the opposite direction for a moment. It was a eprfect set up. My only question is by whom?

220 posted on 11/21/2003 6:52:42 AM PST by Diva Betsy Ross ((were it not for the brave, there would be no land of the free -))
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