Kennedy assassination solved!

[Az Joe]

Oswald did it, alone. Now give it up!

Link below.

[Az Joe]

I never said my mind was closed. I said that after reading numerous books on the subject on both sides of the issue (conspiracy, no conspiracy) and formulating an opinion over many decades I have come to a conclusion.

If new evidence comes forward or new technologies that can examine old evidence I would be happy to look at it. Right now, from what I have seen, Oswald did it alone.

You are the one who is closed about it. You insist that it was some kind of conspiracy and you are not open to the possibility that it wasn't.

[hirn_man]

Its like a game of CLUE

Oswald, in the bookbuilding, with the rifle!

[mikeb704]

The JFK obsession: 40 years and still going strong

[TruBluKentuckian]

"You are the one who is closed about it. You insist that it was some kind of conspiracy and you are not open to the possibility that it wasn't."

Where did I "insist" there was a conspiracy? Don't put words in my mouth. While I am open to debate on the subject, you refuse to debate it, resorting to name calling and accusing other people (those who dare to think) of being close minded.

It is YOU who is close minded. It is YOU who "insists" there WASN'T a conspiracy. Since you are trying to prove a negative, the burden of proof is on you.

[Az Joe]

Read the other side of the story with an open mind.

Everything I have said is already backed up and in the public domain. The Warren Report and Case Closed. It is all in there for you. I am not going to reproduce the entire report here for you.

[Az Joe]

No I have not "insisted" there was not a conspiracy. I said that based on what I have seen I believe that there was no conspiracy. If new evidence comes forward or new technological means to examine old evidence I would be open to it.

The simplest explanation to me is that Oswald did it, alone.

[AmericanVictory]

Everybody knows that when a government commission is appointed it always gets to the bottom of things and is never untruthful. And everybody knows what an honest man LBJ was. How can anyone possibly doubt what you say?

[discostu]

I read enough of the other side of the story to know they're moron and/ or liars a LONG time ago. Anybody that buys the bullet theory quite simply is refusing to use their mind. I've read the Warren Report, I still own a copy, it's a comedy of stupidity and not even remotely plausible lies.

EXPLAIN THE BULLET. How could a bullet bounce off as many things as they say that bullet did and come out with nothing more in the way of markings than rifling (which is essential to "proving" it came from Oswald's gun) and two dents at the top?! I've fired bullets and dug them out, none of the bullets I've fired have hit as many things as the Warren Report says that bullet his and none of them have come out looking as clean as that bullet. The Warren Report is a LIE, that bullet could not possibly under any system of physics similar to what we know we have on this planet have done what they say it did. Not possible ever.

BACKUP YOUR FACTS. You made the claim it is you DUTY to back it up. Your two cents at this point are worth nothing. You've been outed, you refuse to listen to anything that impacts your closed minded world. You are the childish one here, and Free Republic deserves better than your kind of blind obedience to immoral government lies.

[FreedomCalls]

No bullet ever could do what the Warren Commision says that bullet did and look the way it does.

You state that like it is uncontrovertably true. It is not. A bullet can pass one man's neck, lose most of it's kinetic energy, and hit someone else and not be appreciably damaged. Can you prove otherwise? What tests have you done?

[discostu]

Lets look at your post that started this thread:
"Oswald did it, alone. Now give it up!"

Looks like you're insisting to me. Nothing in there about "based on what you have seen". A simple and direct statement with not one drop of wobbling. And ordering everybody that disagrees with you to give it up.

You've been presented multiple times with evidence that clearly and irrefutably shows that the Oswald alone theory, as put forth by the Warren Commision, is a bunch of hooey, and yet you continue to say you're willing to listen to contradicting opinions. You say it's the simplest solution but you ignore the bullet. And when confronted you call others childish.

Sad sad sad. Best for you to flee now, you'll only take more of a beating if you continue to support the pathetic lies.

[GreatOne]

I did look and couldn't find anything dealing with this subject.

[discostu]

According to the Warren Report is bounced off at least one bone and a part of a car, and also turned nearly 90 degrees in mid-air. And meanwhile is not at all bent and only has two tiny dents other than the rifling marks.

[FreedomCalls]

I've fired bullets and dug them out, none of the bullets I've fired have hit as many things as the Warren Report says that bullet his and none of them have come out looking as clean as that bullet.

You've fired at cadavers? The FBI has. They came to the opposite conclusion than you. What were you shooting at -- pine trees?

[MattAMiller]

That would be the intuitive explanation of the head snapping back. The tissue is clearly being ejected to the front however. This tends to indicate a shot from behind. It may also explain why the head snaps back, the force of the ejection could have forced the head back. You've also got the movement of the car, damage to the neck, and the back brace Kennedy was wearing effecting the the reaction of his body.

And what's the point of lieing about where the shot came from anyway? Why wouldn't the conspirators just say Oswald shot him from the grassy knoll?

[discostu]

I've fired at a lot of stuff, I like melons they're fun to shoot at. Bullets don't come out that shiny. Interestingly the other recovered bullet supposedly hit fewer things and was significantly more damaged.

[FreedomCalls]

Your point is?

I ahve a bullet in my hand right now. I can bounce it off of my arm and the desk and it does not show any major damage. It all depends on the bullet's velocity at the time it is moving. Also, where do you get this "90 degree turn" stuff? Connaly was turned around when the bullet hit him and it's trajectory shows a straight line back through him, through Kennedy's wounds, and on to the 6th floor of the book depository.

[FreedomCalls]

Interestingly the other recovered bullet supposedly hit fewer things and was significantly more damaged.

It all depends on the bullets velocity at the time when it hits something. It could easily go through Kennedy's soft tissue and come out undamaged.

[discostu]

Wow red herring action, how quaint. Obviously we're talking at FIRED velocity. According to Warren that bullet hit 4 different body parts and changed angles at least twice. Not buying that for a second.

[discostu]

If it had ONLY supposed gone through Kennedy's soft tissue there'd be no problem with it being an undamaged bullet. But that's not the story of the magic bullet.

[Stewart_B]

Consider: A bullet is fired at a downward angle; it hits Kennedy's body; without striking a bone it reverses course upward and exits the throat. Then it changes trajectory in mid-air, while hanging suspended for a second, then goes downward to enter Connally's back, smashes a rib, exits, deflects right 90 degrees, smashes a wrist, deflects left 120 degrees, and lodges in his thigh (DiEugenio 102).

Here is what Governor Connally said on the subject:

They talk about the "one-bullet" or "two-bullet theory, but as far as I'm concerned, there is no theory. There is my absolute knowledge, and Nellie's too, that one bullet caused the President's first wound, and an entirely separate shot struck me. No one will ever convince me otherwise. It's a certainty. I'll never change my mind (DiEugenio 101).