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Wednesday, November 19, 2003

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1 posted on 11/18/2003 9:38:09 PM PST by JohnHuang2
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To: JohnHuang2
Signs of the Times ...
2 posted on 11/18/2003 9:40:15 PM PST by Bobby777
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JESUS DEFINES MARRIAGE: "And he answered and said unto them, Have ye not read that he which made them at the beginning made them male and female, And said, For this cause shall a man leave father and mother, and shall cleave to his wife: and they twain shall be one flesh? Wherefore, they are no more twain, but one flesh. What therefore God hath joined together, let not man put asunder." -from THE BIBLE: Matthew 19:4-6
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3 posted on 11/18/2003 9:40:25 PM PST by Cindy
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To: JohnHuang2
Something to think about:

If you approve Gay marriage, how many Gays? 2, 3 or 5 people? You say 2, but their activists (who many have heard, and I have read) say "we will challenge that in court immediately". Well, they are.

A lot of Gays prefer group sex or at least an "openness" in their choice of partners (multiple studies prove this as documented in the book "The Male Couple"). How do you quantify the limits? Where does it end?

Age of Consent laws:
What's the minimum age? Homosexual activists are doing everything possible to eliminate "age of consent" laws, because their literature is filled with glorification of pedophilia.

Gay males are just 2.2 percent of the population, but they are responsible for over 1/3 of all sexual crime against minors (5).

Marriage can become useless because we could end up minimizing its importance until it was trivial and ineffective. Once you've opened Pandora's box, the Constitution has no limits built in to prevent society from eliminating Marriage all together.

Every civilization since the beginning of man has recognized the need for marriage. This country and healthy societies around the world give marriage special legal protection for a vital reason - it is the institution that ensures the society's future through the upbringing of children. Furthermore, it's just common sense that marriage is the union of a man and a woman.

There is an ocean of empirical data showing that the union between a man and a woman has unique benefits for children and society. Moreover, traditional family breakdown is the single biggest social problem in America today. In study after study, family breakdown is linked to an increase in violent crime, youth crime, teen pregnancy, welfare dependency and child poverty.

Even if your just considering what is good for the Gay people, Gay marriage is a two edged sword. Several studies have indicated that almost all Gays only want marriage for the bene's (financial rewards). What they don't realize is that long term relationships among Gays is dangerous. In the last 5 years two AIDS studies have shown that when Gay males engage in long term relationships (as a result of new Domestic Partner laws) they dramatically increase the incidence of risky sexual behavior (most specifically a significant rise in oral/anal behavior). This has resulted in an increase in AIDS cases after more than 8 years of decreases.

Carefully consider the effects to society before you support an experiment that has destroyed every civilization it's controlled throughout known history.

Perhaps you should look at the following for more in depth answers: http://www.frc.org/get.cfm?i=IF02G2

http://www.frc.org/get.cfm?i=IF03H01

5. Kurt Freund, et al., "Heterosexuality, Homosexuality, and Erotic Age Preference," p. 107. Cp. Zebulon A. Silverthorne & Vernon L. Quinsey, "Sexual Partner Age Preferences of Homosexual and Heterosexual Men and Women," Archives of Sexual Behavior 29 (February 2000): 67-76.

The most widely accepted study of sexual practices in the United States is the National Health and Social Life Survey (NHSLS). The NHSLS found that 2.8% of the male, and 1.4% of the female, population identify themselves as gay, lesbian, or bisexual. See Laumann, et al., The Social Organization of Sex: Sexual Practices in the United States (1994).

----- Appendix: In Their Own Words ------

Homosexual activists have long understood the radical power of achieving official recognition for homosexual relationships as "marriage." Here is a sample:

"A middle ground might be to fight for same-sex marriage and its benefits and then, once granted, redefine the institution of marriage completely, to demand the right to marry not as a way of adhering to society's moral codes but rather to debunk a myth and radically alter an archaic institution." --Michelangelo Signorile, "Bridal Wave," OUT magazine, December/January 1994, p. 161. "[E]nlarging the concept to embrace same-sex couples would necessarily transform it into something new....Extending the right to marry to gay people -- that is, abolishing the traditional gender requirements of marriage -- can be one of the means, perhaps the principal one, through which the institution divests itself of the sexist trappings of the past." --Tom Stoddard, quoted in Roberta Achtenberg, et al, "Approaching 2000: Meeting the Challenges to San Francisco's Families," The Final Report of the Mayor's Task Force on Family Policy, City and County of San Francisco, June 13, 1990, p.1.

"It is also a chance to wholly transform the definition of family in American culture. It is the final tool with which to dismantle all sodomy statutes, get education about homosexuality and AIDS into public schools, and, in short, usher in a sea change in how society views and treats us."

-- Michelangelo Signorile, "I Do, I Do, I Do, I Do, I Do," OUT magazine, May 1996, p. 30.

"Being queer is more than setting up house, sleeping with a person of the same gender, and seeking state approval for doing so. ... Being queer means pushing the parameters of sex, sexuality, and family, and in the process, transforming the very fabric of society. ... As a lesbian, I am fundamentally different from non-lesbian women. ...In arguing for the right to legal marriage, lesbians and gay men would be forced to claim that we are just like heterosexual couples, have the same goals and purposes, and vow to structure our lives similarly. ... We must keep our eyes on the goals of providing true alternatives to marriage and of radically reordering society's view of reality."

--Paula Ettelbrick, "Since When Is Marriage a Path to Liberation?", in William Rubenstein, ed., Lesbians, Gay Men and the Law (New York: The New Press, 1993), pp. 401-405.

And there's this from pro-homosexual and pro-pedophile author Judith Levine:

"Because American marriage is inextricable from Christianity, it admits participants as Noah let animals onto the ark. But it doesn't have to be that way. In 1972 the National Coalition of Gay Organizations demanded the 'repeal of all legislative provisions that restrict the sex or number of persons entering into a marriage unit; and the extension of legal benefits to all persons who cohabit regardless of sex or numbers.' Would polygamy invite abuse of child brides, as feminists in Muslim countries and prosecutors in Mormon Utah charge? No. Group marriage could comprise any combination of genders."

-- Judith Levine, "Stop the Wedding!: Why Gay Marriage Isn't Radical Enough," The Village Voice, July 23-29, 2003. Levine declines to mention that the 1972 Gay Rights Platform also called for abolishing age of consent laws. This is a curious omission since Levine herself has written in favor of lowering the age of consent to 12 for sex between children and adults in her book Harmful to Minors: The Perils of Protecting Children from Sex (p. 88).

http://www.villagevoice.com/issues/0330/levine.php
6 posted on 11/18/2003 11:21:21 PM PST by Cannonphoder (Think about what you do, it matters.)
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To: JohnHuang2
The Massachusetts Supreme Judicial Court yesterday ruled that homosexual couples have a constitutional right to marry, but stopped short of ordering the state to start issuing marriage licenses to same-sex couples. Instead, the justices, by a 4-3 vote, stayed their judgment for 180 days, "to permit the Legislature to take such action as it may deem appropriate in light of this opinion."

Leviticus 18
26 Ye shall therefore keep my statutes and my judgments, and shall not commit any of these abominations; neither any of your own nation, nor any stranger that sojourneth among you.

Job 40
8 Wilt thou also disannul my judgment? wilt thou condemn me, that thou mayest be righteous?

Leviticus 26
15 And if ye shall despise my statutes, or if your soul abhor my judgments, so that ye will not do all my commandments, but that ye break my covenant:
16 I also will do this unto you; I will even appoint over you terror, consumption, and the burning ague, that shall consume the eyes, and cause sorrow of heart: and ye shall sow your seed in vain, for your enemies shall eat it . . .

7 posted on 11/18/2003 11:49:39 PM PST by freedom9
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