Mass. Supreme Court Rules - Gay Couples have the Right to Marry

FoxNews | 11-18-03 | FoxNews

[Bronco_Buster_FweetHyagh]

Mass. Supreme Court rules that illegal for state to deny marriage license to gay couples.

[cantfindagoodscreenname]

That's the oddest statement I have seen on this thread. Massachusetts is the most liberal state in the union, bar none.

I agree. I guess the poster isn't from Massachusetts. I lived there for 35 years and am now living just over the border in NH. As my dad said, "I moved to NH seeking political asylum." LOL

[jwalsh07]

The only way to stop this is to get government OUT of marriage.

No, marriage between a man and a woman is a fundamental right recognised in American jurisprudence to enhance the family unit and thus the nation as a whole. The last time the Feds took marriage out of the government during the Great Society by substituting the state for marriage, they destroyed generations of inner city families and we are reaping the whirlwind to this day.

[PSYCHO-FREEP]

I am confused as to why you defend perverse morality.

The roman empire eroded internaly for that very reason. You can boil a frog by placing it in a pot of cold water, then gradually increase the heat. It will accept the fact that it will eventually become a stew.

The decay of our morality will be the ruin of our nation in much the same way.

History has proven that when morality declines, apathy increases. No established society can withstand moral decline. It has been proven through the historical record since the begining of time. (and yes, there was a beginning as the bible points out)

[sasafras]

Well I have an opinion too, and it is that society needs to have a set of laws, ethics and morals that protect the familiy. Without this then there will eventually be chaos as we are coming to find out. Whether you like it or not the Bible is the founding element of our society and of the rule of law in all western civilizations. If we allow "anything to go" as you suggest then eventually our society will degrade to lawlessness or even worse totalarism for example in islamic nations. Take home message is that you may think that it is ok but laws like this corrupt and degrade our society. Without a civil society then what keeps people from obeying the law?

[af_vet_1981]

It is not just the boys you have to worry about. There was an article in Time or one of the mainstream magazines not so long ago about large numbers of high school girls turning to lesbianism because it was more popular. People are sheep. Or is it goats ?

In Canada (and Britain too I think) they have attempted (and perhaps succeeded) to make it illegal to oppose the homosexual agenda.

[xzins]

The Bible says that you should visit me in jail.

However, you miss the point. If hundreds of thousands, even millions, of Americans engage in civil disobedience of this variety, then it would be impossible for our courts to handle the charges.

[ArGee]

You consider other adults sexual activites in their homes to be of concern to you?

If it is evidence of a disturbed mind, then it is of concern to me.

People aren't compartmentalized like that. Disturbed in the bedroom means disturbed outside of it. Maybe that won't ever translate into harmful activity, but I would rather not count on it.

Homosexuals need treatment, not tolerance.

Shalom.

[cajungirl]

Well, would inserting a penis into a vagina be a "basis for marriage",,if so we are all in trouble. I thought marriage was about love, caring for another as much as one's self, making a partnership to get thru life, etc. Now marriages are not all like that I do know. But who is to know what each marriage is. But my guess is gay people are not getting married for sex, they don't need to.

[mewzilla]

From what it sounded like to me, I heard a radio report, the court punted, tossing the issue back to the state legislature. Is that right?

[maryz]

that the figure of 10 percent that was promulgated by the gay lobby and subsequently clung to and quoted consistently by gay-rights groups and activists was a fraud.

Right. I believe the 10% figure was originally Kinsey's (and he apparently had more of an agenda in many ways than an interest in honest research).

[San Jacinto]

it seems perverted to me to be overly invested in others private lives.

I don't criticize that attitude. In fact I share it. However, this is still a horrible court decision to hold that the constitution of the state protects the "right" to same sex marriage and the legislature has no right to legally define marriage in terms of the sex of the parties.. Absolutely absurd and ridiculous!!

[oceanview]

as other posters have said, if it was just about those things you mention, that would be one thing. but as others have said, this will be the "welcome mat" to introduce this agenda into the public schools, and other areas.

[af_vet_1981]

One of my kids lives in an area where some gay people have bought houses, she is married.

The odds are now higher that your grandchildren will be gay but not happy.

[Lazamataz]

Why just couples?

Indeed. I feel discriminated against. I, my woman, a few friends down the way, and a couple of stray dogs we found want to get married. I think it is appalling that this union is restricted to TWO HUMANS.

[B Knotts]

It will be a monumental effort. If you remember the ERA didn't make it, and that had TREMENDOUS support throughout the country. Actually if NOT for Phillis Schafley's efforts it would have succeeded. It is very difficult to get 2/3's +1 in both the House and Senate but it is almost impossible to get 3/4 ths of the State Legistlatures to ratify.

I think it could be accomplished if it is done as quickly as possible, with this decision fresh in people's minds.

[B Knotts]

It will be a monumental effort. If you remember the ERA didn't make it, and that had TREMENDOUS support throughout the country. Actually if NOT for Phillis Schafley's efforts it would have succeeded. It is very difficult to get 2/3's +1 in both the House and Senate but it is almost impossible to get 3/4 ths of the State Legistlatures to ratify.

I think it could be accomplished if it is done as quickly as possible, with this decision fresh in people's minds.

[PISANO]

they'd vote tomorrow to add 10 Supreme Court justices

You make it sound SO EASY. We can't even get conservative judges on the circuit courts RIGHT NOW (are you aware of the ongoing democrat filabuster of judicial nominees?) much less putting 10 on the Supreme Court.

[PBRSTREETGANG]

The neighborhood suddenly has upscale nice little restaurants, a great coffee shop, gorgeous gardens and very kind neighbors.

Queer Eye For The Straight Neighborhood?

Neatening up neighborhoods is not a rationale for calling normal that which is patently abnormal. The Emperor's New Clothes comes to mind.

[jwalsh07]

Well, would inserting a penis into a vagina be a "basis for marriage",,if so we are all in trouble. I thought marriage was about love, caring for another as much as one's self, making a partnership to get thru life, etc.

Again, if what you do with Mr Winky and the Ya YA Sisterhood is not the rational basis for deciding who can marry, what is the rational basis for denying any two or more people who are in platonic relationships from marrying?