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1 posted on 11/17/2003 4:32:22 PM PST by Pokey78
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2 posted on 11/17/2003 4:33:14 PM PST by Pokey78 ("I thought this country was founded on a principle of progressive taxation." Wesley Clark to Russert)
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To: Pokey78
I love this guy. He is so right on.
3 posted on 11/17/2003 4:36:34 PM PST by Mercat
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To: Pokey78
OoowwWWWWWWwwwww!! Dang, that's some biting verbage there...

Luv it.
4 posted on 11/17/2003 4:36:38 PM PST by dandelion
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To: AnnaZ
Ping!
6 posted on 11/17/2003 4:39:27 PM PST by diotima ("I find it simply baffling that a Senator would vote against even voting on a judicial nomination.")
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To: Pokey78
bump!

What a great Editorial.
7 posted on 11/17/2003 4:43:37 PM PST by Smogger
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To: Pokey78
there's no point trying to figure out which way a guy who sacrifices sheep will jump.

There's a world of astute perception packed in this little nugget.

8 posted on 11/17/2003 4:49:12 PM PST by Gritty
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To: Pokey78
BUMP!
9 posted on 11/17/2003 4:50:39 PM PST by jmstein7
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If the anti-war cause is so just, it seems odd that it has to be so risibly "sexed up" by Medact and the rest, but the post-9/11 grand harmonic convergence of all the world's loser ideologies, from Islamic fundamentalism to French condescension, is untroubled by anything so humdrum as reality or logic.

Ping.

13 posted on 11/17/2003 5:10:49 PM PST by Madame Dufarge
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Alternatively, they could symbolise Harold Pinter's graphically leaking rectum

ROTFLMAO!!!!
14 posted on 11/17/2003 5:14:48 PM PST by Rummyfan
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To: Pokey78
If the anti-war cause is so just, it seems odd that it has to be so risibly "sexed up" by Medact and the rest, but the post-9/11 grand harmonic convergence of all the world's loser ideologies, from Islamic fundamentalism to French condescension, is untroubled by anything so humdrum as reality or logic. There's "no connection" between Saddam and al-Qa'eda, because radical Islamists would never make common cause with secular Ba'athists. Or so we're told by pro-gay, pro-feminist Eurolefties who thus make common cause with honour-killing, sodomite-beheading Islamists, apparently crediting Saddam with a greater degree of intellectual coherence than they credit themselves.

The fanatical Muslims despise America because it's all lapdancing and gay porn; the secular Europeans despise America because it's all born-again Christians hung up on abortion; the anti-Semites despise America because it's controlled by Jews. Too Jewish, too Christian, too Godless, America is also too isolationist, except when it's too imperialist. And even its imperialism is too vulgar and arriviste to appeal to real imperialists: let's face it, the ghastly Yanks never stick it to the fuzzy-wuzzy with the dash and élan of the Bengal Lancers, which appears to be the principal complaint of Sir Max Hastings and his ilk. To the mullahs, America is the Great Satan, a wily seducer; to the Gaullists, America is the Great Cretin, a culture so self-evidently moronic that only stump-toothed inbred Appalachian lardbutts could possibly fall for it. American popular culture is utterly worthless, except when one of its proponents - Michael Moore, Sean Penn, Susan Sarandon - attacks Bush, in which case he or she is showered with European awards and sees the foreign-language rights for his latest tract sell for six figures at Frankfurt. The fact that the best-selling anti-Americans are themselves American - Moore, Chomsky - is perhaps the cruellest manifestation of the suffocating grip of the hyperpower.

Too Christian, too Godless, too isolationist, too imperialist, too seductive, too cretinous, America is George Orwell's Room 101: whatever your bugbear, you will find it therein - for the Continentals, excessive religiosity; for the Muslims, excessive decadence; for Harold Pinter, excessively bleeding rectums.

So be it. This is a psychosis so impervious to reason that on Thursday those in the most advanced stage will pour into the streets to re-enact the toppling of Saddam's statue with Bush on the podium. The 40 per cent of Britons who merely think the President "stupid" will cheer from their sofas.

Two years ago, NBC held a discussion on the growing alienation of the Muslim world: the al-Munaif family who, after the Kuwaiti liberation, had "slaughtered sheep in tribute to one President Bush", were now disenchanted and had named their newborn son "Osama". While the Arabists on the NBC panel chewed over the problem thoughtfully, on this page I was more insouciant: there's no point trying to figure out which way a guy who sacrifices sheep will jump. That's the way I feel about this week's polls and protests. The Min of Ag has already sacrificed all the sheep, but, that detail aside, much of Britain is now about as rational on America as the al-Munaif family. My advice to Bush is: make sure you know where the exit is and try to avoid eye contact.


I think this is the best Steyn I have ever read - and that's saying something.
15 posted on 11/17/2003 5:20:17 PM PST by Rummyfan
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Well, Saddam's gone, on the run with no Grecian 2000 and all out of Quality Street. But it's a measure of the intensity of this psychosis that the "Stop The War" crowd may well manage to turn out more people this week than they did during the war. The war stopped six months ago, some 80 per cent of Iraq is peaceful and well governed, and the overwhelming majority of Iraqis I spoke to when I was there want the Americans to stay, rather than cut and run like the UN, Oxfam and co. But screw the Iraqi people; the "peace" crowd know better than the ignorant natives what's good for them.

Well, not exactly 'Peace' activists, but ...

This is how Pelosi's San Francisco constituents "Support" the troops (March 2003) ...

Here is a link to the SF-IMC site where these FAR LEFT LIBERALS posted an actual pic (above) of one of their Support Saddam/Terrorists events in March, 2003 and changed the image when I posted/linked it to an FR thread. The pic at the top of that link of 2 Allied Soldiers transporting a prisoner to Gitmo was what they changed it to . . .

These folks at San Francisco Indy-Media are terrorist supporters . . .

Oh, the lurkers on FR from SF-IMC CANNOT change that picture (above) now since it is hosted by FR friendly sources !


16 posted on 11/17/2003 5:21:33 PM PST by MeekOneGOP (I won! I won! http://rmeek141.home.comcast.net/LotteryTicketRutRoh.JPG)
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...for Harold Pinter, excessively bleeding rectums.

Paging Ms. Morford...Paging Ms. Morford...Oh, uh...sorry, Ms. Morford, didn't know you were in the Ms.Room...

FMCDH

17 posted on 11/17/2003 5:23:10 PM PST by nothingnew (The pendulum is swinging and the Rats are in the pit!)
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To: Pokey78; Temple Owl
The fanatical Muslims despise America because it's all lapdancing and gay porn; the secular Europeans despise America because it's all born-again Christians hung up on abortion; the anti-Semites despise America because it's controlled by Jews. Too Jewish, too Christian, too Godless, America is also too isolationist, except when it's too imperialist. And even its imperialism is too vulgar and arriviste to appeal to real imperialists: let's face it, the ghastly Yanks never stick it to the fuzzy-wuzzy with the dash and élan of the Bengal Lancers, which appears to be the principal complaint of Sir Max Hastings and his ilk. To the mullahs, America is the Great Satan, a wily seducer; to the Gaullists, America is the Great Cretin, a culture so self-evidently moronic that only stump-toothed inbred Appalachian lardbutts could possibly fall for it. American popular culture is utterly worthless, except when one of its proponents - Michael Moore, Sean Penn, Susan Sarandon - attacks Bush, in which case he or she is showered with European awards and sees the foreign-language rights for his latest tract sell for six figures at Frankfurt. The fact that the best-selling anti-Americans are themselves American - Moore, Chomsky - is perhaps the cruellest manifestation of the suffocating grip of the hyperpower.


18 posted on 11/17/2003 5:24:41 PM PST by Tribune7 (It's not like he let his secretary drown in his car or something.)
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To: Pokey78
Wow, this one essay demolishes every often-heard anti-War myth wonderfully. And it does it with a sledgehammer. Steyn rocks.
20 posted on 11/17/2003 5:30:32 PM PST by RobFromGa (The Bush Recovery Is In Full Swing....)
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To: Pokey78
Well, Saddam's gone, on the run with no Grecian 2000 and all out of Quality Street. But it's a measure of the intensity of this psychosis that the "Stop The War" crowd may well manage to turn out more people this week than they did during the war. The war stopped six months ago, some 80 per cent of Iraq is peaceful and well governed, and the overwhelming majority of Iraqis I spoke to when I was there want the Americans to stay, rather than cut and run like the UN, Oxfam and co. But screw the Iraqi people; the "peace" crowd know better than the ignorant natives what's good for them.

Don't hold back Mark. Let us know how you really feel!

21 posted on 11/17/2003 5:41:44 PM PST by PogySailor
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To: Pokey78
This is a psychosis so impervious to reason that on Thursday those in the most advanced stage will pour into the streets to re-enact the toppling of Saddam's statue with Bush on the podium.

The real irony here is that these cretins think they are the smart ones.

22 posted on 11/17/2003 5:42:19 PM PST by Bullish
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To: Pokey78
Best line--->

There's "no connection" between Saddam and al-Qa'eda, because radical Islamists would never make common cause with secular Ba'athists. Or so we're told by pro-gay, pro-feminist Eurolefties who thus make common cause with honour-killing, sodomite-beheading Islamists, apparently crediting Saddam with a greater degree of intellectual coherence than they credit themselves.

25 posted on 11/17/2003 6:18:36 PM PST by dennisw (G_d is at war with Amalek for all generations)
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Steyn is the best. And it ain't even close.
27 posted on 11/17/2003 7:14:56 PM PST by Colonel_Flagg ("Beware of the fury of the patient man." - John Dryden)
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To: Pokey78
Awesome essay! My favorite:

whatever your bugbear, you will find it therein - for the Continentals, excessive religiosity; for the Muslims, excessive decadence; for Harold Pinter, excessively bleeding rectums.

28 posted on 11/17/2003 7:23:31 PM PST by Sloth ("I feel like I'm taking crazy pills!" -- Jacobim Mugatu, 'Zoolander')
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Mark Steyn Bump!!!

Thanks, Pokey78.
32 posted on 11/17/2003 9:36:40 PM PST by auboy (I'm out here on the front lines, sleep in peace tonight–American Soldier–Toby Keith, Chuck Cannon)
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