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1 posted on 11/16/2003 10:24:46 AM PST by jveritas
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Arabs strongly believe in their delusional mind that we are going to loose this war and withdraw

How can a war be 'loose'?

Loose is trashy women or doorknobs.

2 posted on 11/16/2003 10:33:53 AM PST by xrp
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I agree the Islam 'spin doctors' are among the world's best, better even than our home grown Dem-Rat 'spin doctors'.
3 posted on 11/16/2003 10:36:01 AM PST by vladog
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It is my understanding that the Arabs were on the winning side in WWI, led in part by T.E.Lawrence, aka T.E.Shaw.

Other than that, they have indeed lost regularly, but everyone lost to the Mongols, and the Arabs/Muslims did have a good run before that, advancing as far as Tours,France, Vienna, Austria, and Indonesia. They conquered India, establishing the Mogul empire. Islam was one of the permissable religions in the court of Kublai Khan.

Since then, they took their notion of the superiority of historical revelation WAY too seriously, and forbade development. The rest of the world passed them like a shot.
10 posted on 11/16/2003 10:43:35 AM PST by donmeaker (Bigamy is one wife too many. So is monogamy.)
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Thank you for writing and posting this. It is the simplest, clearest explanation of the Arabs' (and Palestinians') deadly self-deception that I've ever read.

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17 posted on 11/16/2003 10:47:13 AM PST by Congressman Billybob (www.ArmorforCongress.com Visit. Join. Help. Please.)
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Well written synopsis. Do you see the possibility of a major change of mindset among the Arabs without their shedding Islam?
20 posted on 11/16/2003 10:48:54 AM PST by per loin
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They think if they kill few hundred of our troops we will leave running like what we did in 1983 in Beirut.

All we need is a Democrat victory for this to go from delusion to reality.

23 posted on 11/16/2003 10:55:04 AM PST by Plutarch
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Excellent review and analysis.
30 posted on 11/16/2003 10:59:57 AM PST by shrinkermd (i)
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Araby is locked in a self-perpetuating Dark-Ages mindset which will forever keep Arabs benighted unless there is a radical change.

Islam on one hand teaches that it offers a perfect way of life and on the other that apostasy and blasphemy must be punished by death.

But strict adherence to Islam precludes the sort of individualism and free-thinking which makes modernity possible.

Consequently Muslims find themselves locked in a medieval shame/honor culture of paternal tribalism.

And they are regressing.

As a culture, Muslims have journied through history wearing a "Born to lose" tatoo.

38 posted on 11/16/2003 11:39:19 AM PST by quidnunc (Omnis Gaul delenda est)
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You will have to rethink this essay and separate the terms "Arab" and "Muslim".

Your essay does not make much sense the way it is written if you don't.

39 posted on 11/16/2003 11:40:36 AM PST by eleni121
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The Muslims are winning the battle of demographics. That's the only one that counts in the end. Look at the chinese and the east Indians. They lost most of their wars and now there's over a billion of each and where are their conquerors?
52 posted on 11/16/2003 2:15:59 PM PST by Eternal_Bear
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A good read, even with the typo. :)
54 posted on 11/16/2003 2:39:47 PM PST by LibKill (PULL MY FINGER!)
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forgive me for posting without reading all the replies, but Has this been posted before? Seems like I've read it before, only modified to fit Iraq in the equasion.
55 posted on 11/16/2003 3:33:17 PM PST by bethelgrad (for God, country, and the Corps OOH RAH!)
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Unfortunately, the reason that the arab nations can be delusional is that while they've had crushing military defeats, they haven't lost their ability to wage war, and worse, they haven't been totally defeated.

The only time "true" peace is possible, is when those two steps are taken. The last time it happened was in 1945.

Simply put, Israel is too small to be able to completely crush it's neighbors, although they were stopped from pushing on to Damascus and Cairo in 1973, by pressure from the US, due to the USSR demanding that Israel stop, otherwise they would step in to protect their puppets.

Mark
56 posted on 11/16/2003 4:48:01 PM PST by MarkL (Chiefs 9-1... #$&!@(*#$$%^&@@#!!!!!!)
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