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Forget the spin, check out GOP wins (Mark Steyn)
Chicago Sun-Times ^
| November 16, 2003
| Mark Steyn
Posted on 11/16/2003 5:47:41 AM PST by livesbygrace
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after the midterm elections a year ago, I decided that ''liberal media bias'' was far more harmful to liberals than conservatives.
Just what I had been thinking!!!
To: livesbygrace
great post, thanks. Just what we need, strong hope. These Holidays are going to be a lot nicer. (I was going to say Gayer but changed my mind) LOL
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posted on
11/16/2003 5:55:58 AM PST
by
fish hawk
To: livesbygrace
Great article!
To: Right_in_Virginia
So what are we to make of the Democrats taking over the gubernatorial seat in louisiana?
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posted on
11/16/2003 6:15:30 AM PST
by
Samurai_Jack
(Pacifism by its nature invites escalating acts of war on anyone who practices it.)
To: Samurai_Jack
If you check out CNN, I beleive the question is "Does Blanco's victory signal a turnaround to Democratic fortunes?"
Kinda falls in line with the point of the articles, doesn't it?
...and the answer to the question "Why bother looking at CNN?":
Know Your Enemy.
To: livesbygrace
"Florida: Republicans up 6 points." (a 12 point swing)
"Minnesota: Republicans up 8 points." (a 16 point swing)
"Michigan: Republicans up 9 points." (an 18 point swing)
"Iowa: Republicans up 12 points." (a 24 point swing)
"Arkansas (home of the William Jefferson Clinton Presidential Library): Republicans up 15 points." (a 30 point swing)
The in-sink-erator state (Arknsas) slays me.
Where the republicans increase the democrats decrease a corresponding amount. Ya gotta love the Daschle/Clinton buffoons in Washington. Clinton is ruining the democratic party and they cannot see it because they Hate Bush so much they are blinded to what's going on in America.
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posted on
11/16/2003 6:21:44 AM PST
by
chainsaw
To: Samurai_Jack
Local fluke?:-)
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posted on
11/16/2003 6:29:37 AM PST
by
auboy
(I'm out here on the front lines, sleep in peace tonight–American Soldier–Toby Keith, Chuck Cannon)
To: Samurai_Jack
Not much.
To: Samurai_Jack
I don't make much of it either. Jindal had a lot of negatives as far as "electability" is concerned. Not white, only 32 years old, extreme anti-abortion stance (against abortion even in cases of incest & rape), Roman Catholic... And, I'll even add that his being a Rhodes scholar is something of a negative taken in the context of bubba & clark. My opinion is that his views on abortion were a deciding factor--even some pro-lifers would disagree w/ his position.
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posted on
11/16/2003 6:42:30 AM PST
by
elli1
To: Samurai_Jack
So what are we to make of the Democrats taking over the gubernatorial seat in louisiana? 1. You can't win 'em all
2. The Dems cheated enough to take it
3. In 18 of the last 21 elections where the incumbent was NOT running, the opposing party won... so this is simply that trend (against the incumbent's party but not the incumbent themselves) continuing. (Saw this on another thread, and it makes the most sense to me, as much as I would enjoy seeing the GOP continue to roll)
4. This race wasn't hyped as a Bush Economy referendum... making it ridiculously apparent (possibly even to Dem strategists!) that theirs has been a failing strategy
5. Louisiana is always a little flaky. ;^)
To: elli1
Okay...but what did the RAT say in her race about the RAT positions on guns? And is the Loooosiana legislature still pro-gun enough so as not to allow any advancement of a gun control agenda?
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posted on
11/16/2003 6:57:57 AM PST
by
ExSoldier
(When the going gets tough, the tough go cyclic.)
To: elli1
Not white, only 32 years old, extreme anti-abortion stance (against abortion even in cases of incest & rape), >>
You make some good points but it doesn't explain the polling. Personally I think the GOP needs to understand the power of negative advertising used in the last week or two before the election. This is why the undecided (read politically ignorant) broke for Gore in the last week, could have sunk Arnold (except for his star power), and did get Jindal. Lessons hopefully to be learned for 2004. Do I advocate negative advertising? Yes, but mainly right a the end before the media can make much of an issue of it.
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posted on
11/16/2003 6:58:05 AM PST
by
gbaker
To: livesbygrace
And the democrats still believe Bill Clinton is their savior. When they finally wake up to the fact that their demise was hastened by about a decade by those eight Clinton years it will be too late.
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posted on
11/16/2003 7:03:55 AM PST
by
billhilly
(If you're lurking here from DU, I trust this post will make you sick)
To: livesbygrace
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posted on
11/16/2003 7:17:15 AM PST
by
sonsofliberty2000
(I am the armchair activist. Flamesuit ready, Dr. Pepper flowing. Able to post in a single click.)
To: livesbygrace
May all conservatives and no liberals get the message presented here.
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posted on
11/16/2003 7:25:50 AM PST
by
gitmo
(Stability cannot be purchased at the expense of liberty. -GWB)
To: elli1
My opinion is that his views on abortion were a deciding factor--even some pro-lifers would disagree w/ his position. Oh yeah, I didnt realize that Jindal was running on the extreme anti-abortion stance. Extremism on either side in these times requires a surrender of judgement.
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posted on
11/16/2003 7:27:27 AM PST
by
Samurai_Jack
(Pacifism by its nature invites escalating acts of war on anyone who practices it.)
To: chainsaw
Here is what Zell Miller points out in his book:
In 2004, if we have the exact same popular-vote split between the Democratic and Republican candidates, and if these candidates win the same states, the Electorial College margin for the Republican will get bigger. How much bigger? The Republican candidate would have a majority in the Electoral College not by four electors, as George W. Bush did in 2000, but by eighteen. His book is great! I highly recommend it.
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posted on
11/16/2003 7:28:24 AM PST
by
hobson
To: Samurai_Jack
So what are we to make of the Democrats taking over the gubernatorial seat in louisiana? That the new governor elect acted like a Republican, especially on the 2nd amendment and abortion.
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posted on
11/16/2003 7:30:33 AM PST
by
Dane
To: Samurai_Jack
So what are we to make of the Democrats taking over the gubernatorial seat in louisiana? Not much.
Mary Landreau won while the Dems lost Senate seats overall in 2002.
Now Louisiana has elected a Dem governor while 3 others (Ky., Ms. & Cal.) have just gone the other way.
To: Samurai_Jack
The dem win in Louisiana is easily explained. The dems brought in a hired gun. They hired that guy you see on TV who talks to folks "on the other side." those who have passed on to their eternal rewards. He was able to get thousands of them to put down the glories of heaven for a few moments and vote for the dem. The dead vote gives the dems a 2 to 5% cushion, the media (through premature announcement that encourage the lefties and disuade the good guys), another 1 or 2 %.
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posted on
11/16/2003 8:10:21 AM PST
by
Tacis
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