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Why Six Days? (Six Days of Creation, Literal Days or Era's.
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| 11/15/2003
| Dr. Chuck Missler
Posted on 11/15/2003 10:50:03 PM PST by bondserv
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To: Elsie
Likewise..... where our machines have crawled around on the surface of Mars, NOTHING has been detected by the scientific appratus on board that has shown any 'life' signs.
101
posted on
11/16/2003 12:47:41 PM PST
by
Elsie
(Don't believe every prophecy you hear: especially *** ones........)
To: Hermann the Cherusker
Why not? The Earth is the center of the Universe, and Man the foremost thing on Earth. The language of the Bible is that the Sun, Moon, and Stars revolve around a stationary Earth. Thus, Sun stops in its tranist across the sky for Joshua
The Man is the pinnacle of creation. As far as I know, nowhere in the Bible, does it say that Earth is the center of the Universe. Earth may be the focal point but, certainly, not a center in any geometric sense.
However, if you are talking about human perception, it does appear the Sun, Moon, stars, planets, galaxies do revolve around planet Earth. I just think that it is presumptuous for us to assume that our perception is equivalent to that of the Lord.
Either we are a bunch of electrons descended from a monkey, or we are God's pinnacle of creation.
We certainly are a bunch of electrons (as well as other particles). The Bible does say that we were made of clay. So, on some level, we do resemble monkeys - as well as all other living organisms. The Bible does mention, however, that we (not the monkeys) were made in Lord's image. Clearly it does not mean that we are physically made in the Lord's image. Traditionally the part of Man that was believed to be "made in Lord's image" was the soul. If you prefer, we can call it reason. It is, however, indisputable that, at a certain level, we are significantly different from monkeys.
102
posted on
11/16/2003 12:47:42 PM PST
by
bluejay
To: bondserv
Dang!!
Come run MY company!!!!!
103
posted on
11/16/2003 12:49:20 PM PST
by
Elsie
(Don't believe every prophecy you hear: especially *** ones........)
To: Elsie
Yes, which point would you like to start with.
To: bluejay
Yeah...
We only got's TWO opposable thumbs!
(Note to self: check Demo's and Lib's feet next time I'm able......)
105
posted on
11/16/2003 12:51:24 PM PST
by
Elsie
(Don't believe every prophecy you hear: especially *** ones........)
To: Just mythoughts
either one.......
106
posted on
11/16/2003 12:51:58 PM PST
by
Elsie
(Don't believe every prophecy you hear: especially *** ones........)
To: Elsie
I have pointed to many scriptures. Are we talking about the so called contradiction of "day" of creation, done by Moses.
Help me out or else we will have to start with Genesis 1:1 and go from there.
To: Elsie
Well then: since even the great Roman Empire was drawn into His influence, just what DO you believe has caused the obviously illogical following of so many people (in the first century --dang! I can't even get away from Him there...) to worship and adore a blatent fabrication?
How do you explain 1.3 billion followers of Mohamed? How about billions (do not know the actual count) of various types of Buddhists?
When Lord ordered Abraham to begin the practice of circumcision, Abraham objection was that he would loose many followers. To this Lord replied that there would be enough. The meaning of the reply is disputed. The clear implication, however, is that the numbers matter less then the faith.
108
posted on
11/16/2003 12:57:31 PM PST
by
bluejay
To: Just mythoughts
(Why is this so hard??)
That "tree" in Genesis was Satan. Actually, Satan's greatest deception has not happened yet, "he" gets to play the role as "Christ". Do you know which Christ shows up first?
What about that scripture that says that Christ became our sabbath, thus not one day but every day?
94 posted on 11/16/2003 2:20 PM CST by Just mythoughts
To: Just mythoughts
Huh?
Can you post some Scripture to illustrate your points?
97 posted on 11/16/2003 2:33 PM CST by Elsie
Point ONE or Point TWO
109
posted on
11/16/2003 12:58:17 PM PST
by
Elsie
(Don't believe every prophecy you hear: especially *** ones........)
To: Elsie
Yeah...
We only got's TWO opposable thumbs!
Taking a brief look at the parts of the city visible through the windows of my house, I would be willing to bet there are more differences between humans and monkeys (even between humans and great apes) then the number of opposable thumbs.
110
posted on
11/16/2003 1:01:18 PM PST
by
bluejay
To: bluejay
When Lord ordered Abraham to begin the practice of circumcision, Abraham objection was that he would loose many followers.
Oh?? Where?
Genesis 17
1. When Abram was ninety-nine years old, the LORD appeared to him and said, "I am God Almighty ; walk before me and be blameless.
2. I will confirm my covenant between me and you and will greatly increase your numbers."
3. Abram fell facedown, and God said to him,
4. "As for me, this is my covenant with you: You will be the father of many nations.
5. No longer will you be called Abram ; your name will be Abraham, for I have made you a father of many nations.
6. I will make you very fruitful; I will make nations of you, and kings will come from you.
7. I will establish my covenant as an everlasting covenant between me and you and your descendants after you for the generations to come, to be your God and the God of your descendants after you.
8. The whole land of Canaan, where you are now an alien, I will give as an everlasting possession to you and your descendants after you; and I will be their God."
9. Then God said to Abraham, "As for you, you must keep my covenant, you and your descendants after you for the generations to come.
10. This is my covenant with you and your descendants after you, the covenant you are to keep: Every male among you shall be circumcised.
11. You are to undergo circumcision, and it will be the sign of the covenant between me and you.
12. For the generations to come every male among you who is eight days old must be circumcised, including those born in your household or bought with money from a foreigner--those who are not your offspring.
13. Whether born in your household or bought with your money, they must be circumcised. My covenant in your flesh is to be an everlasting covenant.
14. Any uncircumcised male, who has not been circumcised in the flesh, will be cut off from his people; he has broken my covenant."
15. God also said to Abraham, "As for Sarai your wife, you are no longer to call her Sarai; her name will be Sarah.
16. I will bless her and will surely give you a son by her. I will bless her so that she will be the mother of nations; kings of peoples will come from her."
17. Abraham fell facedown; he laughed and said to himself, "Will a son be born to a man a hundred years old? Will Sarah bear a child at the age of ninety?"
18. And Abraham said to God, "If only Ishmael might live under your blessing!"
19. Then God said, "Yes, but your wife Sarah will bear you a son, and you will call him Isaac. I will establish my covenant with him as an everlasting covenant for his descendants after him.
20. And as for Ishmael, I have heard you: I will surely bless him; I will make him fruitful and will greatly increase his numbers. He will be the father of twelve rulers, and I will make him into a great nation.
21. But my covenant I will establish with Isaac, whom Sarah will bear to you by this time next year."
22. When he had finished speaking with Abraham, God went up from him.
23. On that very day Abraham took his son Ishmael and all those born in his household or bought with his money, every male in his household, and circumcised them, as God told him.
24. Abraham was ninety-nine years old when he was circumcised,
25. and his son Ishmael was thirteen;
26. Abraham and his son Ishmael were both circumcised on that same day.
27. And every male in Abraham's household, including those born in his household or bought from a foreigner, was circumcised with him.
111
posted on
11/16/2003 1:02:48 PM PST
by
Elsie
(Don't believe every prophecy you hear: especially *** ones........)
To: bluejay
How do you explain 1.3 billion followers of Mohamed? How about billions (do not know the actual count) of various types of Buddhists? So... you are claiming that all THESE people are wrong as well: HMmmm....
Upon what evidence?
112
posted on
11/16/2003 1:05:17 PM PST
by
Elsie
(Don't believe every prophecy you hear: especially *** ones........)
To: Just mythoughts
It is written where, the most FAVORITE place of our Heavenly Father's is and it is here on this planet earth.
Earth may, in fact, be Lord's favorite place, but this does not mean it is a geometrically central point in Creation. Nor does it mean that Lord's concept of time is dictated by the period of Earth's rotation.
113
posted on
11/16/2003 1:06:29 PM PST
by
bluejay
To: Elsie
Well, true, but you wouldn't expect them to be on the mmon either. Regardless of when plants (bacteria) would have started here on earth.
The moon is thought to have been formed bya large galancing collision with an asteroid-sized impact: this melted/blew out 1/6 of the earth back into orbit, where it reconsolidated into a sphere (melting again any fossils that might have been blown out into space....) and then the center core of the moon was re-melted into the seas under future impacts/and that (already thrice melted!) was splashed and shattered again under meteorite impact as the rocks on the moon' surface got hit.
So any early fossils from plants (like the iron deposits in Michigan or the sea-side piles of microbes off Australia) that might have been present simply couldn't survive recognizably as fossils.
---...---
Above all that melting and destruction, we simply have not found any microbe traces as old as the theorectical age of the moon. (Yet, he cautioned!) So, when the moon got blasted out from the earth's crust, there might not have been life created yet here either.
114
posted on
11/16/2003 1:11:10 PM PST
by
Robert A Cook PE
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To: Elsie
Genesis 2:9 And out of the ground made the Lord God to grow every tree that is pleasant to the sight, and good for food;
the tree of life also in the midst of the garden,
and
the tree of knowledge of good and evil.
We have three types of trees described, first for food, second for "life", and the third with "KNOWLEDGE" of good and evil.
To: bondserv
"yom"
"evening and morning"
"by faith we understand that the world was framed by the word of God" - Hebrews 11
To: bondserv
Let's say you want to explain how you just created the world to someone who has absolutely no scientific knowledge. Would you tell them exactly what happened, or would you make it into a story that people can understand?
Think of how you might explain something to children who don't have the understanding of the thing that you do.
117
posted on
11/16/2003 1:15:38 PM PST
by
Quick1
To: Elsie
"the greater light to govern the day and the lesser light to govern the night... and let them serve as signs to mark seasons and days and years,
... and let them be lights in the expanse of the sky to give light on the earth
Feeling picky? 8<)
"Governing" the night and the day by reading "signs" in the sky sounds like navigation to me ... After all, the men walking in the desert are governed by the stars they can see: No stars, no science. Also, notice they were "set" in their positions at this point in time, not that they were created. (Again, being picky...)
No sense of mystery about the universe either.
118
posted on
11/16/2003 1:16:00 PM PST
by
Robert A Cook PE
(I can only support FR by donating monthly, but ABBCNNBCBS continue to lie every day!)
To: bluejay
That is certainly a "possibility". That being the case, really lets "us" know who is in control cause we don't know the answer to that among many other things.
To: Elsie
Oh?? Where?
(Refering to the source that describes conversation between Abraham and Lord regarding circumcision.)
One of the traditional Jewish sources: Genesis Rabbah 46:3. Abraham objection was recorded as: "Until now [converts] have come to join themselves to me [to know You]. Do You say that once I have been circumcised, they [will continue] to come and join themselves to me?" Lord's reply was recorded as: "It is sufficient for my world that I should be its patron".
120
posted on
11/16/2003 1:18:20 PM PST
by
bluejay
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