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Immigration policy broke; Repair needed
www.kingmandailyminer.com ^ | 11.14.2003 | Marvin Robertson

Posted on 11/14/2003 6:38:40 PM PST by VU4G10

As I looked out my window at the promise of some rain, I kept looking back and forth to two major events that occurred in Phoenix this week.

Both were front page news in Phoenix and hold enormous implications for each one of us individually and for the state and nation.

Mexico's president, Vicente Fox, met with state leaders and with large numbers of his countrymen while in Phoenix. Some of the of those from Mexico were actually in Arizona legally. I suspect some had become United States citizens.

Yet, Fox talked to them like they were citizens of Mexico. He even referred to having them eligible to vote in both countries with dual citizenship.

That should not surprise you. A Middle Eastern country set up polling places across this country, including Arizona, this year so their former and current citizens who were living in the USA could vote in an election being held "back home."

Naturalized citizens take a pledge of loyalty to this country that specifically requires them to disavow primary loyalty to the country they left.

The USA has often been described as a melting pot. That implies that we take them in expecting them to become Americans. Have we changed the policy so we no longer expect immigrants to become an integral part of this country?

Mexico seems to be promoting a dual citizen status that would be an earth shaking change in the unstated policy we have lived with since 1776.

Fox wants us to be the economic development program for Mexico. Already, immigrants from his country send more than $13 billion back home to support family and relatives. That number is with a B. Only oil exports bring more dollars to Mexico It is one of the world's top oil and gas producers.

Yet, they restrict investment by our companies and individuals who are citizens of the USA. I looked at buying a timeshare in Mexico. I found that I could not own property in Mexico. I was to get a long-term lease rather than ownership.

I said no.

The other view from my window was a running gunfight down along 30 miles of I-10 in Phoenix that ended south of Chandler. Two gangs of Mexican smugglers, fondly referred to as coyotes, were shooting each other, evidently to gain better control of a share of the lucrative trade in human life.

Murders are up in Phoenix this year, the Phoenix papers report. They attribute much of the increase to violence in West Phoenix among smugglers. The smugglers kidnap people off the street or from other smugglers and hold them for ransom. Killing one now and then adds to the urgency of paying the ransom.

These illegal immigrants provide a cheap source of labor to build homes in the Phoenix area. Homebuilders can sell houses at more competitive prices. Americans buying the homes appreciate the good buys and never connect that lower price with taking advantage of the immigrants.

Nor do they connect the unemployment rate or the lower wages paid by contractors to US citizens to the illegal labor from Mexico.

We call that exploitation when American companies pay low wages overseas to bring cheaper merchandise from other countries. We even criticize Wal-Mart when we think they do it.

The reason the gunfight on the freeway attracted so much attention was the location. Had the smugglers had the good sense to shoot each other in West Phoenix, they would not have made front page.

It is disgusting that human smuggling has become so profitable that it attracts people who had been in the drug trade. Will we ever demand something be done?

As one citizen said to me, why should we care when the problem does not touch us directly? The "government" should do something.

Do you and I have any responsibility? Would these people quit risking their lives to come to Arizona if no one would hire illegals? What responsibility does each employer have? Is the attitude "Competitors do it so I will too so I can compete" acceptable?

I am sure that no one in Kingman would hire an illegal worker even though I have stumbled on some local workers who spoke no English. U.S. 93 and I-40 are high traffic corridors that carry some of these people to jobs in all directions. Can we assume none ever stop here?

Read Michelle Malkin's book 'Invasion." It could broaden your view of the problems created by our current immigration policies. She is the daughter of legal immigrants from the Philippines who came here for the right reasons and did it by the rules.

Immigration policy is broken. It killed people on Sept. 11. It kills our neighbors from Mexico nearly every day.

I want it fixed, now.


TOPICS: Culture/Society; Editorial; Foreign Affairs; Mexico
KEYWORDS: aliens; fox; illegal; immigrantlist; immigration; immigrationpolicy; meltingpot; mexico
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To: resistmuch
"Amazing. This is money lost to our economy, propping up a foreign government that is actively undermining our nation."

Mexico is proud of this money. V. Fox thinks he earned it. However, this money could help some of our hospital stay open.
21 posted on 11/14/2003 8:21:00 PM PST by texastoo
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To: ETERNAL WARMING
We directly pay taxes to subsidize that cheap labor.

It's a hidden form of inflation that all the lovers of illegal, cheap labor don't want to talk about.

22 posted on 11/14/2003 8:31:46 PM PST by Reaganwuzthebest
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To: resistmuch
Amen, brother. I truly believe that there will be a serious separatist movement in this country when my grandchildren come of age.

Bush's utter complicity in this ongoing invasion will outweigh any good he does in office.

You'll go far on these threads, newbie.

23 posted on 11/14/2003 9:23:08 PM PST by PRND21
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To: ETERNAL WARMING
I've been paying $1200 a month health care premiums in Colorado so they can provide free health care to illegal immigrants. And, in Colorado, most immigrants do not pay any taxes -- no federal, no state, no nothing.
24 posted on 11/14/2003 9:26:53 PM PST by henderson field
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To: henderson field
I've been paying $1200 a month health care premiums in Colorado so they can provide free health care to illegal immigrants.

Sounds like California's government, liberal.
What's Tancredo doing about this? Is your State Senate mostly (D) or (R)?

25 posted on 11/14/2003 9:31:17 PM PST by PRND21
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To: FoxFang; FITZ; moehoward; Nea Wood; Joe Hadenuf; sangoo; 4.1O dana super trac pak; chicagolady; ...
Ping
26 posted on 11/14/2003 10:24:26 PM PST by JustPiper (18 out of 19 HiJacker's had State issued Driver's License's !!!)
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To: HiJinx
Why is this not a formal "TOPIC"?? Why must one look & hunt for it??
27 posted on 11/14/2003 10:42:56 PM PST by GatekeeperBookman (Banned by fred mertz-I thought him dead-or is this a case of re-intarnation?!)
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To: resistmuch
You argue my brief. The man is a midget when we look at this issue. Or he is worse. Ask the JBS.org about him & the vinigar flows. I have nearly cancled their magazine several times-but they are right on!

The deal with Citizen Fox is dirty-it even stretches the definition of 'dirty' beyond all reason.

They invade, suck our taxes & a BILLION flows South every week!!

Human rights-in stinking mexico?

The consulates constitute a criminal enterprise-RICO!!!!
28 posted on 11/14/2003 10:47:32 PM PST by GatekeeperBookman (Banned by fred mertz-I thought him dead-or is this a case of re-intarnation?!)
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To: resistmuch
I have already flushed a number of contacts, for their militia activities and insinuation that they should also spread this. Two of my three kids are non-political & even they have come to the conclusion we may see insurrection over the issue. Very dangerous.
29 posted on 11/14/2003 10:50:20 PM PST by GatekeeperBookman (Banned by fred mertz-I thought him dead-or is this a case of re-intarnation?!)
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To: VU4G10; FoxFang; FITZ; moehoward; Nea Wood; Joe Hadenuf; sangoo; 4.1O dana super trac pak; ...
BumpPing!
30 posted on 11/14/2003 11:02:10 PM PST by JustPiper (Illegals require a microchip, let's pitch in !!!)
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To: resistmuch
A remnant IS preparing: the Southern Nationalist Movement is gaining ground all the time. While I don't believe that any amount of Federal invasion with Mexicans can destroy our regionalism, television is making cultural inroads, convincing all Americans that sports is reality and their young should look like shambling ghetto dwellers.
31 posted on 11/15/2003 5:59:58 AM PST by warchild9
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To: PRND21
I'm no newbie.
W is complicit in all these practices. His relationship with Vincente Fox is deep and goes way back.
32 posted on 11/15/2003 6:01:08 AM PST by warchild9
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To: mo
It is cheaper for Mexico to help elect "compliant" politicians in the border states than to properly care for its own citizens at home.

Yes ---- the Mexican elites have an awful lot of money and some of our politicians are bought out quite cheaply. Fox's wife of 2 years -- Marta intends to run for president. Fox never got a majority of the votes himself and she can only win with massive election fraud ---- which is one reason they're insisting on having Mexican elections held in the USA.

33 posted on 11/15/2003 7:06:34 AM PST by FITZ
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To: chicagolady; All
BUMPITY-BUMP-BUMP
BUMP BUMP

Thursday I attended the GOP meeting in Sullivan's home district and introduced a resolution urging Sullivan to change his vote to NO on SB. It was passed with just one dissenting vote.

CL, FReepmail me with your weekend schedule so we can plot Monday's activities on this. I will try to originate call to action thread this afternoon.

34 posted on 11/15/2003 7:19:01 AM PST by TheRightGuy (ERROR CODE 018974523: Random Tagline Compiler Failure)
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To: TheRightGuy
Thursday I attended the GOP meeting in Sullivan's home district and introduced a resolution urging Sullivan to change his vote to NO on SB.

This was my greatest concern in voting for GW, I suspected he would continue the "New World Order" envisioned by his father. Don't look like my fears were unfounded, just moving a little slower to hood wink the bots.

35 posted on 11/15/2003 8:56:34 AM PST by itsahoot (The lesser of two evils, is evil still...Alan Keyes)
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To: texastoo
It was reported in the Mexican newspapers this week that due to the price of oil being low, the remittances that Mexicans send to Mexico has overtaken oil as #1.

Do you have a link to the article. This can be used as ammunition.

36 posted on 11/15/2003 9:30:45 AM PST by Travis Bickel/Marine Inspector (You talkin' to me?)
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To: warchild9
W is complicit in all these practices. His relationship with Vincente Fox is deep and goes way back.

PRND21 is a Illegal Alien Apologist. Always has been and always will be.

37 posted on 11/15/2003 9:34:13 AM PST by Travis Bickel/Marine Inspector (You talkin' to me?)
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To: VU4G10
Immigration policy isn't broken. It functions pretty much just as those who engineered it want it to. This can't be emphasized too often. The present immigration situation isn't an accident, it isn't because of the impossibility of doing anything about it, or the incompetence of the the INS, it is policy, made at the highest levels of government and, more importantly, at the highest levels of social control, mostly in the mass media, that exist over and above the government.
38 posted on 11/15/2003 10:48:59 AM PST by jordan8
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To: VU4G10
I wonder WHO built all those homes in Phoenix (and everywhere else) before the invasion? American construction workers, of course, and many have lost their jobs to cheap labor from Mexico. Our economy is in the toilet, yet Bush still wants to import foreign workers. Something stinks in the White House.
39 posted on 11/15/2003 12:07:13 PM PST by janetgreen (Attention: President Bush - Have You Noticed That America Has Been Invaded??)
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To: Travis Bickel
I had to really search and search for this. I guess I should have posted it. Feel free to post it as I will be out this afternoon.

The title: "Money from remittance overtakes oil"

http://www.el-universal.com.mx/pls/impreso/noticia.html?id_nota=1782&tabla=miami
40 posted on 11/15/2003 1:03:03 PM PST by texastoo
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