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Any suggestions on how we can protect the free speech rights of these students?
1 posted on 11/14/2003 11:06:49 AM PST by maluka23
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To: maluka23
Keep the bake-sales going -- they make such a clear point that the PC liberals are upset. Anything that upsets the liberals.......
2 posted on 11/14/2003 11:13:33 AM PST by expatpat
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To: maluka23
“Each member of the College community has a right in his/her dealings with the institutions, and with members of the College community in the performance of their official duties, to be free from discriminatory treatment with regard to race, creed, gender, religion, national origin, or political belief.”

When it comes to affirmative action, I guess the University is saying "Do as I say, not as I do."

3 posted on 11/14/2003 11:26:49 AM PST by E. Pluribus Unum (Drug prohibition laws help fund terrorism.)
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To: maluka23
As an alumnus, '73, I know how.

$$$$$$ and a handwritten letter.

"what a field day for the heat"

In the '60s, dissenting views on campus were a great thing. Too bad the liberals are fascists now.
4 posted on 11/14/2003 11:31:00 AM PST by Blueflag (Res ipsa loquitor)
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To: maluka23
Junior Colin Mubukwa, a minority student, got a very different impression that the Sons of Liberty were saying: “You have to defend your right to be here and you have to prove to me that you had to work as hard as I did,” he said.

Gee, do you think what he said will actually sink in? That's right Mr. Mubukwa, that is exactly what affirmative action does...it places doubts about the abilities of minorities to succeed on their own. That is why it must go.

7 posted on 11/14/2003 11:38:14 AM PST by TXBubba (aka TXBubbette)
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To: maluka23
I am amazed this college actually lists 'political belief' as something that can not be discriminated against. I am also amazed that some people are upset about these bake sales. One would think they would be happy to get the discount! Really though, I think the anger is a manifestation of denial when they realize the true meaning of AA.
8 posted on 11/14/2003 11:44:31 AM PST by bk1000 (listed on federal no tag line list.)
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To: maluka23
Regardless of what the school policy says, the 1st Amendment cannot be taken away. IF they continue to hold bakesales, act in a peaceful and non-threatening manner, the administration can squirm and whine all they like... But as long as they allow other groups to hold public activities on campus (Asian-American clubs, African-American clubs, etc.) which are exclusively designed- even in their name- to discriminate, then the campus administration is powerless.

By their very nature, such "diversity" clubs revolve around what you look like, not some common interest...

My suggestion- if you really want to get some attention- is the have a Caucasion-American club, and promote things like dances, parties, etc. While at UC Davis last year, we (the Davis College Republicans) even organized a trip to the local sportsmens' range. We had several members (myself included) who brought pistols of various types and calibers, and even a few who brought rifles. It was an all-day affair, we had firearms safety instruction before we started.... And we had a ball.

A quick side-note: one of the participants that day, was an active gun-control advocate, said how guns were evil, etc... (of course, he had never fired a gun before...) I loaned him my personal weapon, a professional-grade Kimber .40 caliber... He shot about $200 worth of ammunition that day, more than anyone else... And loved it. His attitude about guns change 180 degrees.;-)

My attitude is, "what's good for the goose, is good for the gander." If the University values it's "diversity," and actively pursues such a nonsensical idea, then that is the chink in their armor. And it's your best opportunity to exploit.

FReegards

9 posted on 11/14/2003 11:45:32 AM PST by Capitalist Eric
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10 posted on 11/14/2003 11:45:51 AM PST by Hobsonphile (Art should celebrate God's creation. Writers should love humanity in all its forms.)
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To: maluka23
I just love these bake sales. I wish we had thought them up when I was in college; they would have gone over really well at UW-Madison! Ah, to be young again.
12 posted on 11/14/2003 11:51:38 AM PST by kevao (Fuques France!)
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Maybe they should have called it a "progressive bake sale". Just like our progressive holiday party here at a government agency.

The cost is $10.00 for employees, $20.00 for branch managers, and $30.00 for PD’s and deputies.

Translation: PD = Program Director

14 posted on 11/14/2003 12:08:10 PM PST by rllngrk33 (Liberals are guilty of everything they accuse Conservatives of.)
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To: maluka23
“Each member of the College community has a right in his/her dealings with the institutions, and with members of the College community in the performance of their official duties, to be free from discriminatory treatment with regard to race, creed, gender, religion, national origin, or political belief.”

Please explain how students acting against the administration in conducting this bake sale are in the "performance of their official duties" and thus subject to administration PC control?
16 posted on 11/14/2003 12:24:17 PM PST by nathanbedford
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To: maluka23
Do I get my bake sale items for free since I don't indicate my ethnicity on any forms???
19 posted on 11/14/2003 1:50:39 PM PST by cyborg (solar flare proof tin foil hats are now available....)
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To: maluka23
Thanks for the ping. I love affirmative action bake sales. May they grow and prosper throughout the land of academe.
21 posted on 11/14/2003 3:07:36 PM PST by shhrubbery!
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"Absolutely the College cannot allow discriminatory practices to occur on this campus, period. And won’t,” Vice President of Student Affairs W. Samuel Sadler said

Great news! Looks like they've decided to cancel their affirmative action admisstion policies, which are dependent on discrimination!

22 posted on 11/14/2003 4:18:01 PM PST by governsleastgovernsbest
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To: maluka23
Thanks for all the responses, we think we have the administration backpeddaling, but we're still kind of worried. Someone at a recent meeting questioned whether this is protected speech because of the money invloved. Does anyone know of any cases in the books that clearly protect things like this? It seems inherent to me that it is, I'm just wondering if there is precedent from any of the other bake sales done all over the country and I wouldn't want to have some crackpot judge ruling that it isn't.
24 posted on 11/18/2003 7:08:54 PM PST by maluka23
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