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Democrat Senators to leave Washington this weekend...Republicans urged to attack!
Various | 11-11-2003 | vannrox

Posted on 11/13/2003 7:27:18 PM PST by vannrox

Democrat Senators to leave Washington this weekend...
Republicans urged to continue talking past 36 hours.


What began as a prelude to the so-called nuclear option, the Republican senators have staged a all night talk-a-thon designed to weaken the Democrat resolve in blocking the Conservative Judicial Nominees by President Bush. Under pressure from their constituents, they have increased the amount of time from 30 hours to an unbelieveable and unimagineable 36 hours.

(chuckle)

Why end it now? Why so soon? Oh I am sure that there are many reasons. Most Senators are long time public officials. They are Federal Dinosaurs that have been there, ten, twenty, thirty and even fourty years. Aging and old, many can't stay in these kinds of political encounters long. They can't -- because it affects their health.

We can't possibly expect them to DO THEIR JOB. Afterall, they have never experienced a layoff. Nor have they experienced a resizing, or a hostile takeover, or a smigen of technological obsolence. Nope. Fat and comfortable they reside in their nice white marble walls, while us pleableans faun over their pronouncements. They don't know what it means to not preform. They don't know what happens when the numbers on the ledger don't match up correctly.

It's just a big old game to them.

Well I, for one, scream for leadership. I am sick, and sick, and sick and tired...(oh so tired) of weak wristed, limp necked eliteist S.O.B's who pretend to represent me. I want action. Not later, not sometime when ever... I want it now! I want the nuclear option now. And don't threaten it...DO IT! For gosh sakes.

Here's what happens when you strut around, you roosters of the Senate...you pretend to be for great things, but all the time you are being serviced by your young staffers. You pretend to help us and support our familes, but taking bribes and cutting deals to help you and your own immediate families. You care not for us. You just pretend to care. You are weak and disgust me to a level that I can't even find the words to say.

And I am talking about the Republicans!

The Democrats...well, they are on another planet all together. I' carry on about them as well, but unless they increase their dosages of Respirodol and stop drinking for afew days, they won't be able to comprehend what I am trying to state.

OK, here it is...My rant. My angry rant! Yes, the Democrats are mostly leaving Washington this weekend. We are not as stupid as you weak willed slugs in Washington think. We know that the effect of George Soros has ever tom and Jane Senator scrambling for a piece of the pie. We know that the nine Democrat clones of barney the Dinosaur are going to be out of town to make yet another debate to convince us Americans how stupid we are. We know that Hillery Clinton will be in Iowa.

OK. So now most of the Senators on the Democrat side will be gone...what are you going to do about it? Are you, as SERVENTS of the PEOPLE going to do your job, or are you going to go visit some influencial members of industry and get some free lap dances? What is it going to be?

Bravery or more of the same tired old Monica Monisky waddle? I'm amgry and ranting. But this is real emotion. Do you feel it? Do someting you worthless humps of lard!!!!


TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society; Foreign Affairs; Government; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections; Your Opinion/Questions
KEYWORDS: dnc; filibuster; judicial; nomination; rnc
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To: Terry Mross
bringing home the bacon

The *real* problem with Congress.

41 posted on 11/14/2003 2:05:50 AM PST by I_dmc
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To: pepperhead
Nope. I think the only way around it is if the last demonrat leaves, they can call for unanimous consent. If there are no "nays", they don't have to count the votes.
42 posted on 11/14/2003 4:12:55 AM PST by Physicist
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To: Stopislamnow
I agree call for cloture every 24 hours.Half of the Democrats will die if they have to stay around.
43 posted on 11/14/2003 4:20:01 AM PST by gunnedah
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To: vannrox; Stopislamnow
I'll post this for the fourth time in 24 hours. Maybe eventually enough folks will get it.

Why Not Go 24/7 on Judges?

The Issue: Republicans are permitting Democrats to get away with a “gentlemen’s filibuster” on the judicial confirmations. But to win, Republicans must force Democrats to talk 24/7 until they break.

Response: Despite conventional wisdom “Mr. Smith Goes to Washington,” a “bring-in-the-cots” counter-measure has never been successful in breaking a filibuster. This is true even in their hey-day, when Democrat Majority Leaders fought southern Democrats. Only compromise has stopped a filibuster, and, in other cases, those who filibustered prevailed. Moreover, the 24/7 counter-measure is not what many think it would be under the Senate rules. It is impossible to force Democrats to “talk till they drop” or “read from the phone book.”

1. It’s impossible to force Democrats to talk about a nominee beyond the first three hours of the legislative day. After that, they can talk about the war, the economy, or anything they want.

2. If Democrats tire of talking, they can simply suggest the absence of a quorum, which requires 51 Senators to show up to continue conducting business. If a quorum does not appear, the Senate must adjourn or at least suspend its proceedings until a quorum is established.

Consider this scenario: Democrats run out of things to say about a judge at 11 p.m. The Minority Leader suggests the absence of a quorum:

• Option A: Not enough Senators respond. The Senate is "stuck," and it must adjourn. Under this scenario, both parties sleep soundly through the night.

• Option B: A quorum is produced because all Republicans show up (Democrats can keep sleeping) and then debate on judges resumes. Under this scenario, Republicans are awake, and Democrats sleep. This works to the advantage of the filibustering Senators, so the burden rests on the Majority to ensure that the constitutional quorum requirement always can be met.

• Option C: Not enough Senators respond and the Sergeant At Arms is dispatched to bring absent Senators to the Chamber to vote. Once the quorum is produced, debate resumes. But at 2 a.m., the Democrats again note the absence of a quorum and once again the Republicans are back to Options A, B, or C.

According to Stan Bach of the Congressional Research Service (Filibusters and Cloture in the Senate, 1/17/01):

“… late-night or all-night sessions put as much or more of a burden on the proponents of the question being debated than on its opponents. The Senators participating in the filibuster need only ensure that at least one of their number always is present on the floor to speak. The proponents of the question, however, need to ensure that a majority of the Senate is present or at least available to respond to a quorum call or roll call vote. . . . This works to the advantage of the filibustering Senators, so the burden rests on their opponents to ensure that the constitutional quorum requirement always can be met.”

Therefore, all-night counter-filibuster measures, while possibly great drama, are, in truth, maintained by the Majority, not the filibustering minority. Democrats may not show up for quorum calls, but Republicans need to stay up for nights on end to keep the Senate in session around the clock. Additionally, there may be long, drawn-out quorum calls in the middle of the night rather than Democratic Senators reading from the phone book and laboring to stay on their feet. So it doesn’t look as dramatic as what Hollywood did with “Mr. Smith.”

24/7 is a tactic for a sprint strategy, not a long distance run. Of course, a sprint sometimes has its purposes in the middle or at the end of even the longest races…

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44 posted on 11/14/2003 6:00:33 AM PST by Coop (God bless our troops!)
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To: Founding Father
I've got a better idea. The Senate is run by Republicans, right? That makes it Republican toilets, Republican doors and Republican locks on the Republican doors. Hey, they can filibuster and then they can figure out how they're going to eat and pee and leave the building.

I'm sure the janitorial staff of the Republican Senate would be more than happy to use Republican mops to mop Democrat urine off the Republican floor.

45 posted on 11/14/2003 6:09:49 AM PST by AmishDude
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