Hatch joins Kennedy to push hate-crimes bill

The Washington Times ^ | November 13, 2003 | Charles Hurt

[scripter]

[The media doesn't] like the truth that homosexuality is a chosen behavior, or that it can be un-chosen.

That's certainly how I see it as well. The facts are available to those interested in the truth. And perhaps those who aren't interested in the truth don't want to be reminded they've been wrong all along. It's quite possible their anger is a secondary emotion in response to having someone point out their well meaning but misguided mistakes.

[grania]

all crimes are hate crimes...

But, (not yet anyway) are all crimes federal crimes. This kind of legislation will turn even more crimes into federal instead of state crimes.

In MA, there is Gary Sampson who murdered three people (one of them in NH). Well, they can't give him the death penalty in MA, so they're using federal carjacking laws to try and get the death penalty.

What's the danger here? Well, in a state like MA, a person couldn't get the death penalty if they killed someone just like themselves or without stealing their car, as long as they stayed in the state.

So, what would happen? A person would be exempt from the death penalty if he/she killed a cousin or whomever, but didn't take their car??

In MA, no one is mentioning that if MA wants a death penalty, the legislature should pass it. The nanny government is letting the state have it both ways.

[backhoe]

It is my belief that there is a group of ideas so toxic that I label them "poison ideas"- once you swallow them, their convoluted internal logic makes you so sick that you can no longer reason your way out of the semantic box they trap you in.

"Hate Crimes" is one of those- it sounds like an idea any decent person would support, but its real purpose is to squelch and silence opposition.

[JesseHousman]

Sen. Arlen Specter, Pennsylvania Republican and member of the Judiciary Committee, has been a longtime supporter of tough "hate-crimes" legislation and complimented Mr. Hatch yesterday for trying to move the legislation.

I am sick and tired of the Hatch-Kennedy alliance! Now the RINO Specter gives the pencil-necked geek a compliment!

[John O]

"People have got to grow up and realize that that's an important issue to many, many people in our society and nobody should be discriminated against," Mr. Hatch said recently.

I agree . No one should be discriminated against. The orientation to murder is a very important issue to me and I'm being discriminated against because I can't do it legally. (Did I mention that God made me this way and I can't change ever.)< /extreme sarcasm>

I pray that God will save and change all those trapped in homosexual behavior and their sympathizers OR that He will remove them from this Earth before they drag any one else to hell with them. More and more I understand why this sin was instantly punishable by death. It's not to punish the offender, it's to protect the rest of us

[OXENinFLA]

I'm definitely going to tune in today....

Boortz was losing me yesterday on his Homosexual stance.

[Phantom Lord]

Can't agree with him, or anyone on everything. Though I tend to agree with his stance on homosexuals more often than not.

He is strongly opposed to gays adopting for one thing.

[xdem]

This is all part of making non-liberal ideologies illegal and punishable by law.

In Britain, it is illegal to discuss some politically-incorrect ideas even in the privacy of one's own home.

I will not ignore the suppression of free speech merely for the sake of party loyalty.

[NordP]

"This is so rediculous... like Bush said... hate crime laws are rediculous... all crimes are hate crimes..."

Your post was so good, I HAD to repeat it!

Oh...no...MY crime is more hateful than yours...I'm in a "protected class." (/sarcasm)

[Mo1]

"People have got to grow up and realize that that's an important issue to many, many people in our society and nobody should be discriminated against," Mr. Hatch said recently.

I'm thinking we juveniles should write and phone Senator Hatch and tell him this is a STUPID idea and that if we wanted to be like europe .. we'd move there

Washington DC Office
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Washington, DC 20510
Tel: (202) 224-5251
Fax: (202) 224-6331
www.senate.gov/~hatch/index.cfm?Fuseaction=Offices.Contact

[little jeremiah]

And the issue of homosexuality be its very definition opens the door to total sexual libertinism. (If THAT is allowed, why isn't THIS allowed?) We will be seeing that soon - and there is a big push to "normalize" so-called "consensual" child/adult sex. Every single monotheistic religion since the dawn of history has placed strong restrictions on sexual activity for a good reason. Destroy those restrictions, and all hell will break loose.

No one will know their father, babies get killed since there's very little concept of "family", only selfish instant gratification, precluding loyalty, kindness and duty. Look at the homosexual (and bi, and hetero) sexually deviant subculture. Sadism and masochism are gaining in popularity, bloodletting, fetishism, whipping, using electricty in novel ways, scarification, bondage, and even cannibalism. Anonymous sex for all via bathhouses and "swingers' clubs" are getting popular again.

Anyone with any rationality left sees that these cannot exist without dire consequences. Exactly how dire and how soon remains to be seen. It won't be a pretty sight. If these things continue in the same direction, there won't be any civilized world left.

[hattend]

Hatch, like McCain has been in the Senate way too long...they have gone soft in the head.

Utah! Arizona! Do your duty! Vote them out.

[hattend]

Should we punish the second man for "what he thinks" or treat the two crimes equally?

I vote "equally"