Posted on 11/12/2003 4:41:58 PM PST by sweetliberty
"Section 925.11 [of the Florida Code] arguably reopened hundreds of closed criminal cases. It provided new protections to convicts, allowing DNA testing to prove the innocence of inmates whose criminal cases were closed, a class including many with respect to whom the time to seek post-conviction relief had expired.
Each inmate in these cases had been tried and convicted in the courts. The judgment in each of these cases was final, and the time for post-conviction relief had expired in many cases.
Yet the Legislature added new protections to allow the convict to challenge the result of that final judgment.
The Supreme Court has repeatedly approved of the purposes of that legislation."
1. Michael Shiavo also removed the feeding tubes of both of his parents. Was there also insurance involved?
2. Michael's frenzy to have Terri die should raise red flags.
3. Terri's accident was never properly investigated.
4. His lawyer, Felos, also appears to have a conflict of interest in this case.
5. Allegations have been made that Judge Greer, who has handed down some bizarre decisions favoring Michael, has not met certain qualification to even be a judge.
6. People have been in coma for 8, 16, 19 years and come out of it.
7. Michael has a mistress and two out of wedlock children yet refuses to divorce Terri.
8. No evidence of any kind exists that Terri would have wanted to be starved to death, a horrible way to die. We don't even allow the worst of criminals to die this way.
The list goes on.
To legally declare an alive person as 'good as dead' is murder.
Taking this out of the family and into the legislature is a terrible mistake.
That might be true if this were a right to die case where a person had a clearly written living will and was dying with no chance of recovery.
But what we have here is a right to kill case, where the victim may have been attacked by the person who later ends up to be her gaurdian, and the vicitm stands in the way of the gaurdian receiving money while alive ,and the fact that Terri was never dying. She was never in a coma, or brain dead.
So, your statemnet does not apply here, unless you think judges and guardians should have absolute power over their ward, or that a person waves their God given rights under the US constitution when they become disabled or dependant upon medical care or even another person .
God help us all if that is really what you believe.
Supplying someone with food and water is hardly "extraordinary means". Although gastrostomy tubes are not exactly a "natural" way of feeding someone, their use in many cases is for the mutual benefit and convenience of caretaker and patient. If it would require over an hour per meal to feed a patient by mouth and a g-tube can do the job in under five minutes, that does not mean the g-tube constitutes "heroic measures". It certainly does not justify discontinuing g-tube feedings while simultaneously withholding oral sustenance.
The people who want to starve/dehydrate Terri are seeking to do so not because she's dying, but because she isn't. Actually, the fact that Terri has survived as long as she has suggests that she is (or at least until recently was) in surprisingly good health. Although she is at present unable to communicate effectively, the fact that she's survived as well as she has suggests to me that she has more 'brainpower' than Felos et al. want to acknowledge.
Michael stated and was supported by Felos on LKL that the money received after the suit has dwindled to about 50 - 60 thousand dollars (the bulk of it going to Felos).
If, BIG "IF" this is true (which I personally doubt), is Felos now working Pro bono, and what is poor Mikey going to get out of it?
(NOTE: The last part of that question is really rhetorical.)
1. Safety from any chance that Terri could recover enough to get him indicted for the original wife beating and attempted murder. Even an autopsy on her body could do that, hence his plan for an illegal immediate cremation.
2. Freedom from her without having to get a divorce or give up any of his boodle. Freedom from possible future liability for the costs of her care. Freedom to marry the floozie. (Why she would want to marry him is another matter.)
3. The homicidal satisfaction of killing Terri in front of her parents and siblings. He hates Terri, hates her family.
4. Revenge on Terri. He blames her for all of this, can't wait to get even.
5. Sole heir to her estate. Who knows how much he has stashed from the settlement? There's also a possibility that the estate will be worth millions for movie, book and TV rights to her life story.
I honestly don't understand your statement. The person you responded to was right on the "prophetic"money. The "Big Picture" for the liberals, is to have the power of life and death over you. If we continue further down the slippery slope of nanny government, THEY will have the power of your life and death, because THEY will be paying for it.The way I understood the responder was Medicaid could decide you cost too much money and pull your plug. Over 5000 people a year in Denmark are killed each year and they don't want to die. The government decides who is most likely to benifit from the always limited funds they have and the kill the others. This is the culture of death you may have heard of. The abortionists want EVERY baby dead. Try to think of any statement to the contrary by the Femonazi's(Rush's term) They believe the trash of the land are muckig up the planet for everybody else and they want them dead. We will never achieve socialized medicine until we murder most of the people in our nursing homes now. They gobble up 3/4 of the money we have in their last couple of years. The liberals WILL cut them off if they get the chance so you and I can have free doctor visits. Only problem is, sooner or later, it will be your turn to be turned into "Soilent Green", for the children don't cha know!
That is why they always present their "mercy killings" like they are putting down a horse. "You really wouldn't want to live with a tube hanging out", or "She's all wrinkled now, who wants to live like that". Medicare and Medicaid have ruined the American medical system by giving blank checks to doctors and hospitals. Med insurance companies can't keep up, because they can't print money or raise taxes. We are so far down the road now, I don't know how to get back to the $5 office visit and the county hospital districts for the poor. The system is headed for a crash, and then we will beg the government to save us. They will, of course, but you will sell your soul to the devil. What will you do when THEY decide your child isn't worth saving? You can't pay and they won't pay. Instant votes for the political party that promises the most.
That said... yes, the whole thing does smell worse than a rotting fish. Felos and MS are flagrantly dishonest. Greer's rulings are so one-sided and heartless you have to figure he's in on it somewhere. Now we find he may not even be a judge!
But there is no difference of medical opinion about the 1991 bone scan. At least six doctors with no stake in the matter, including the one who actually did the scan, concluded that Terri had suffered severe trauma consistent with a beating. And that, in turn, is consistent with Terri saying to her sister that she wanted a divorce, and with the heavy, unusual bruises her mother noticed on her arms.
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Supercat, you are EXACTLY CORRECT!!! I couldn't have said it better.
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