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"The 30hr Senate Debate" --- (Live Thread)
http://www.senate.gov/ ^ | 11-12-03 | OXENinFLA

Posted on 11/12/2003 5:40:31 AM PST by OXENinFLA

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To: StriperSniper
He he he!
41 posted on 11/12/2003 6:01:36 AM PST by michigander
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To: OXENinFLA
"right wing base"

Is that what he calls Senator's constitutes?

That's who the guy from Roll Call said prompted the Pubbies to do this.
(I think he meant us ;-)

42 posted on 11/12/2003 6:01:56 AM PST by StriperSniper (All this, of course, is simply pious fudge. - H. L. Mencken)
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To: freedom1st

43 posted on 11/12/2003 6:03:40 AM PST by TomGuy
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To: Mo1
OMGGGGGG!!!!


A memo question!!!

Daschle answering it like a TRUE dem, with DOUBLESPEAK!!
44 posted on 11/12/2003 6:03:52 AM PST by OXENinFLA (Lack Of Orders Is No Excuse For Inaction ------ Patton)
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To: michigander
I can't WAIT for Hollings to speak. ;-)
45 posted on 11/12/2003 6:05:48 AM PST by StriperSniper (All this, of course, is simply pious fudge. - H. L. Mencken)
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To: StriperSniper
If the Republicans control the floor for the full 30 hrs (as I have read they have been trying to do) can even one 'rat leave the floor? Seems to me, they step off, they can end their speech, and the chair can call for a vote to end debate...

Where am I wrong on this (as I am sure I am..)
46 posted on 11/12/2003 6:06:02 AM PST by max_rpf
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To: OXENinFLA
They asked Tommy what would happen if the pubbies tried to sneak something on the floor

Tommy's says that they will be kepping an eye on them

Hehehe .. The Dems aren't sure what will happen
47 posted on 11/12/2003 6:06:40 AM PST by Mo1
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To: NicknamedBob
.....I'm sure that some sort of Pyrrhic victory will be ours.....

Great thought. Since the effort is apparently a press event, I would fear that the spin will be Pubbie loss and not even a Pyrric victory will result.

My hope is for Red Zone cavalry hidden in the woods that will charge and rout the Rat flank about hour 26 .
48 posted on 11/12/2003 6:08:21 AM PST by bert (Don't Panic!)
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To: max_rpf
The Dims only need one on the floor to object. I'm not sure of all the details, but it boils down to them needing just one.
49 posted on 11/12/2003 6:08:38 AM PST by StriperSniper (All this, of course, is simply pious fudge. - H. L. Mencken)
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To: Mo1
LOLOL!!! Yeah, I'm Sure Frist said all that....about why they are ding the 30 hr debate.
50 posted on 11/12/2003 6:10:02 AM PST by OXENinFLA (Lack Of Orders Is No Excuse For Inaction ------ Patton)
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To: m1-lightning
.....How many Senators are needed to change the Senate rules?......

Only 5...... Collins, Snow, McCain Chaffee and Nichols. All the other Pubbies are for changing the rules. These 5 are not.
51 posted on 11/12/2003 6:10:06 AM PST by bert (Don't Panic!)
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To: TomGuy
Daschle doesn't look so good. Is he sick ?
52 posted on 11/12/2003 6:10:44 AM PST by VRWC_minion (Opinions posted on Free Republic are those of the individual posters and most are right)
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To: bert
Nichols

What's his problem? I thought he was leaving anyway?

53 posted on 11/12/2003 6:11:36 AM PST by StriperSniper (All this, of course, is simply pious fudge. - H. L. Mencken)
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To: VRWC_minion
That's how you look when you're "deeply saddened".
54 posted on 11/12/2003 6:11:40 AM PST by Harold Hill (I always think there's a band, kid)
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To: max_rpf
Where am I wrong on this (as I am sure I am..)

You have it reversed. The call for a vote needs to be scheduled in advance. However a quorum call can be made by anyone and the GOP needs to keep 51 folks there.

55 posted on 11/12/2003 6:12:55 AM PST by VRWC_minion (Opinions posted on Free Republic are those of the individual posters and most are right)
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To: TomGuy
Daschle has gone from deeply saddened to very deeply troubled. It will be a good day.
56 posted on 11/12/2003 6:12:56 AM PST by LurkerNoMore!
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To: VRWC_minion
...If republican then it takes 60....

Incorrect. The number is 51. The rule change procedure in queation involves bypassing the regular requirement for cloture because the advise to a Presidential appointment has constitutional authority beyond normal Senate business.

There are 5 Pubs who don't think the procedure should be followed.
57 posted on 11/12/2003 6:13:16 AM PST by bert (Don't Panic!)
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To: VRWC_minion
...If republican then it takes 60....

Incorrect. The number is 51. The rule change procedure in queation involves bypassing the regular requirement for cloture because the advise to a Presidential appointment has constitutional authority beyond normal Senate business.

There are 5 Pubs who don't think the procedure should be followed.
58 posted on 11/12/2003 6:14:25 AM PST by bert (Don't Panic!)
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To: Harold Hill
He looks thiner than I recall and kind of pasty looking. Could be makeup but his eyes look glassy also. At least in that picture above.
59 posted on 11/12/2003 6:15:06 AM PST by VRWC_minion (Opinions posted on Free Republic are those of the individual posters and most are right)
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To: LurkerNoMore!
That reminds me..............on Syria

NAYs ---4
Byrd (D-WV)
Chafee (R-RI)
Enzi (R-WY)
Jeffords (I-VT)

Not Voting - 7
Campbell (R-CO)
Graham (D-FL)
Hagel (R-NE)
Inouye (D-HI)
Kerry (D-MA)
Lieberman (D-CT)
Nelson (D-NE)

60 posted on 11/12/2003 6:15:54 AM PST by OXENinFLA (Lack Of Orders Is No Excuse For Inaction ------ Patton)
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