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1 posted on 11/12/2003 4:51:00 AM PST by wimpycat
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Apologies in advance if this is a duplicate. I did a cursory check and didn't see anything else on this topic.
2 posted on 11/12/2003 4:52:27 AM PST by wimpycat ("I'm mean, but I make up for it by bein' real healthy.")
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3 posted on 11/12/2003 4:55:38 AM PST by AntiGuv (When the countdown hits zero, something's gonna happen..)
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To: wimpycat; WhyisaTexasgirlinPA
We have to start killing more of these mo fo's. I don't have a clue as to how to ferret them out. But we do need to kill more of them.

I would hate attrition of murder bombers to be successful missions.


5 posted on 11/12/2003 4:57:03 AM PST by SeeRushToldU_So (Libs want to take my money, my guns, and my land....then sodimize me.)
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To: wimpycat
May they RIP. Sad day.

I hope the Italians find that steely resolve our President has and don't turn tail and run. Worse mistake they could ever make. I read Oriana Fallaci's book "The Rage and The Pride after 9/11. She wouldn't blink at them.
7 posted on 11/12/2003 5:00:50 AM PST by tioga (dreary, winter rainy day today....)
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To: Constitution Day; Poohbah; Chancellor Palpatine; Catspaw; Howlin
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8 posted on 11/12/2003 5:01:28 AM PST by wimpycat ("I'm mean, but I make up for it by bein' real healthy.")
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since President Bush declared an end to active combat May 1

I'm REALLY getting tired of this line.

9 posted on 11/12/2003 5:03:02 AM PST by tazman3
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Prayers for our brave allies, the Italians, who died in the attack. These terrorists should know better than to attack Italians...
14 posted on 11/12/2003 5:18:02 AM PST by rintense
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http://famulus.msnbc.com/FamulusIntl/reuters11-12-033658a.asp?reg=MIDEAST

Berlusconi says Italy won't be intimidated by bomb

ROME, Nov. 12 Italian Prime Minister Silvio Berlusconi said Italy would not be intimidated by a bombing that killed at least 12 Italian military and eight Iraqis in the southern Iraqi city of Nassiriya on Wednesday.

''No intimidation will budge us from our willingness to help that country rise up again and rebuild itself with self-government, security and freedom,'' he said in a statement.

The blast, which also wounded at least 12 people, targeted the headquarters of the Italian military police in Nassiriya.

17 posted on 11/12/2003 5:28:22 AM PST by OXENinFLA (Lack Of Orders Is No Excuse For Inaction ------ Patton)
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Bomb at Italian Base in Iraq Kills at Least 22
Wed November 12, 2003 08:01 AM ET


By Khudair Majeed

NASSIRIYA, Iraq (Reuters) - A car bomb ripped through an Italian military police base in the Iraqi town of Nassiriya on Wednesday, killing at least 14 Italians and eight Iraqis in what appeared to be a fresh suicide attack.

The attack occurred as Washington attempted to speed up the process of handing over power to an Iraqi government, although U.S. officials insist this is not an exit strategy.

Carabinieri military police officials in Rome said the Italian deaths were believed to be 11 military police and three army soldiers. Hospital officials in Nassiriya said eight Iraqis were killed.

"A truck crashed into the entrance of the military police unit, closely followed by a car which detonated," said a spokeswoman for the British-led multinational force in southern Iraq.

The bomb threw up a huge plume of dust and smoke and shattered windows hundreds of meters (yards) away. Several houses around the base were badly damaged and dozens of wounded Iraqis were admitted to hospital.

"A car bomber crashed through the compound where the Italians live," said Aysha Abdul Wahab who lives near the base and spoke to Reuters by telephone. "The explosions damaged a number of houses. My two daughters are injured."

Around 2,300 Italian troops are in southern Iraq, many based in Nassiriya on the banks of the Euphrates river which had been relatively calm since the war. Italian and Romanian forces in the city, part of the British-led force, have been generally well received by locals.

BLOODIEST ATTACK SINCE AUGUST

The blast, described by Pope John Paul as a "vile attack" against a mission of peace, was the bloodiest single attack in Iraq since August when at least 80 Iraqis were killed by a car bomb outside a mosque in Najaf.

Earlier that month, a suicide bomber killed 22 people in an attack on the U.N. headquarters in Baghdad.

Wednesday's deaths were the first among non-British members of the southern multinational force in hostile fire. Last week guerrillas shot dead a Polish major serving in a separate multinational force in central Iraq.

Italian Prime Minister Silvio Berlusconi said Italy would not be intimidated by the bombing.

"No intimidation will budge us from our willingness to help that country rise up again and rebuild itself with self-government, security and freedom," he said in a statement.

Attacks in Iraq have killed at least 155 U.S. and 12 British soldiers since major combat was declared over on May 1.

A bomb attack in Baghdad on Tuesday killed a U.S. soldier and wounded two, a U.S. military statement said on Wednesday. The U.S. military also said a U.S. soldier was killed north of Baghdad on Tuesday evening when his vehicle drove over a bomb planted on a road.

URGENT TALKS AT WHITE HOUSE

Top U.S. officials, including Iraq governor Paul Bremer who was summoned from Baghdad, held a hastily convened White House meeting on Tuesday to discuss ways to accelerate the shift from U.S. to Iraqi control, amid indications President Bush's administration was rethinking policy.

Washington wants the U.S.-appointed Iraqi Governing Council to agree a method for drawing up a constitution, which would pave the way for democratic elections and a handover of power.

The U.N. Security Council has set a December 15 deadline for the Governing Council to schedule a timetable for the political transition.

A senior U.S. official Bremer was not expected to leave his job but other officials said there was mounting friction between the U.S. governor and Washington over his resistance to accelerating the transfer of authority to Iraqis.

Jalal Talabani, an Iraqi Kurd who holds the rotating presidency of the Governing Council, said the best way forward was to install a provisional government without delay.

"I think it is very reasonable and necessary to have a provisional government before having a constitution," Talabani told Reuters in an interview.

The Council, however, has not won wide support among Iraqis and an unelected government would be unlikely to be welcomed. (Additional reporting by Rosalind Russell, Alistair Lyon in Baghdad and Antonella Cinelli in Rome).
18 posted on 11/12/2003 5:49:28 AM PST by Brian S
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I listened to NPR briefly this A.M. in my vehicle . . . I kid you not, they said "12 PEOPLE were killed, along with 8 Iraqis" . . . does this tell you something about their world view? . . . typical twisted liberalism . . .
19 posted on 11/12/2003 6:14:44 AM PST by LikeLight ( ___________________________________ it's a line)
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To: wimpycat
"The latest death brings to 152 the number of soldiers killed by hostile fire since President Bush declared an end to active combat May 1."

Again, the press misquotes. The President said the "major combat" phase was over, not "active combat."

In that speech from the deck of the Lincoln, he also said the war was not over ( for those of you in the press, that is spelled "N-O-T"), and that the task of securing the country was still ahead.

23 posted on 11/12/2003 6:46:38 AM PST by cookcounty
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To: wimpycat
Was already posted here At least 12 reported killed in truck bombing at Italian base in Iraq
25 posted on 11/12/2003 6:51:12 AM PST by TexKat
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To: MLedeen
Italy-related ping, good sir...
26 posted on 11/12/2003 6:51:20 AM PST by VOA
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To: wimpycat
Prayers for the souls of these noble warriors, and prayers that God will strengthen their leader. The decisions made in the next few days will determine whether or not Italy remains free or if it decends into the terrorists grip.
28 posted on 11/12/2003 6:56:52 AM PST by McGavin999
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My prayers and sympathy go out for these brave souls and all their family members. Thank the Italians for their steadfastness. May God bless them all.
31 posted on 11/12/2003 7:05:15 AM PST by TexKat
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I await the inevitable headline "133 U.S. Soldiers Killed In Suicide Truck-bombing". The inability of western forces to take even the simplest and most common sense precautions against this are astounding. Pick a building that is at least 25 and if possible at least 50 yards or more from the nearest road and dig a four foot-wide, four-foot deep ditch around it and pile the dirt on the building side and you pretty much end this type of bombing. Or close the streets to unsearched vehicles. Part of the reason common sense precautions aren't taken is that the authorities don't want to seem standoffish to the locals. Might hurt their feelings. Practically racist, don't you know. Obscene.
38 posted on 11/12/2003 11:26:50 AM PST by jordan8
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President Carlo Azeglio Ciampi called the bombing a “terrorist act” and said it wouldn’t deter his nation’s resolve to fight terror.

He knows the moral obligation for Core countries to provide security in Gap countries.

39 posted on 11/12/2003 11:29:44 AM PST by RightWhale (Close your tag lines)
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