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1 posted on 11/11/2003 10:17:59 AM PST by george wythe
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To: george wythe; Pukin Dog
Jeb Bush Detractors can leave their apologies here.
2 posted on 11/11/2003 10:24:45 AM PST by TomB
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To: george wythe
This guy is so Orwellian.

Terri of course has the most to lose, i.e. her life, if his client gets his evil clutches on her.

Once again, it is not about the right to die, but the right to kill.

3 posted on 11/11/2003 10:25:18 AM PST by The Man
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Why are the governor's lawyers trying to move this lawsuit to Tallahassee?

Possible reasons:

1. They are just postponing the inevitable by using delaying tactics. They know they will lose their case and are trying to buy a few more days before Terri's tube is removed again.

2. They think that Tallahassee judges will be more amenable to hear the governor's case.

3. Even if they lose in Tallahassee, the case will go to the First District Court of Appeals, not the Second District Court of Appeals. They might consider the First District Court of Appeals as friendlier to the governor.

4. _________[Add your guess]



For how long will this delay tactic work?

Possible outcomes:

1. The plaintiff's attorney, Felos, may ask Judge Baird to lift the stay. The case was automatically stayed when the governor's attorneys apppealed the motions' rulings. Baird can lift the stay immediately.

2. Baird may decide to wait until the motions' rulings are resolved at the appeals court and possibly the Florida Supreme Court. Judging by the previous history on this case, it will take at least a week for the motions' appeal to move through the highest courts.


5 posted on 11/11/2003 10:37:02 AM PST by george wythe
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To: george wythe
Anybody know Jeb Bush's email address?
6 posted on 11/11/2003 10:40:58 AM PST by my_pointy_head_is_sharp
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To: Budge; Pegita; cyn; Ladysmith; Calpernia; Babalu; floriduh voter; dandelion; PleaseNoMore; ...
Ping!

If you want or off of this ping list, please let me know.

26 posted on 11/11/2003 4:17:13 PM PST by sweetliberty ("Having the right to do a thing is not at all the same thing as being right in doing it.")
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To: george wythe
"I wish the governor would be a man about it and stand up and defend the law. He is almost like hiding in the bushes with his tail between his legs.''

No, head, he is taking a stand for the sanctity of life against all you little god wannabes who think that that power should belong to you. Go pound sand you little pansy #$$ pipsqueak, and take your agenda of death and destruction for hire with you!

28 posted on 11/11/2003 4:23:33 PM PST by sweetliberty ("Having the right to do a thing is not at all the same thing as being right in doing it.")
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To: george wythe
"Meanwhile, Michael Schiavo's attorney said he will ask Baird to lift the stay on his client's constitutional challenge to Terri's Law. The law violates Terri Schiavo's right to refuse medical treatment and improperly grants the governor power to interfere in a court case, Felos said."

[Not enacting]The law violates Terri Schiavo's right to refuse medical treatment life and improperly grants the governor power to interfere in a court case, Felos said the power to enact legislation and wield the power of life and death to the courts.

"Terri Schiavo has more to lose than Bush does if the stay remains in place, Felos said. It is a matter of her rights being ``violated on a daily basis''

What a pile of crap! Felos is a ghoul who is in love with his fascination with death....I mean who'd want to live if they could have the wonderful experience of "Dying With George?" He is one sick SOB, and his asinine statements defy logic.

Terri has a lot more to lose alright....her LIFE is at stake and she would be dead were it not for Gov. Bush, but then, that's what YOU and MICHAEL HINO SCHIAVO want. Terri never said she wanted this and both of you slimy #$$h*l*s know it.

31 posted on 11/11/2003 4:41:31 PM PST by sweetliberty ("Having the right to do a thing is not at all the same thing as being right in doing it.")
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To: george wythe
it takes a villiage - to help you make end of life decisions for your spouse.

thanks florida legislature!

what would we do without you.
75 posted on 11/11/2003 6:34:26 PM PST by jethropalerobber
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To: george wythe
I hate Felos.
93 posted on 11/11/2003 6:54:01 PM PST by Saundra Duffy (For victory & freedom!!!)
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To: george wythe
Join the Terri Schindler Life Ribbon Campaign
Join the Terri Schindler Life Ribbon Campaign!

99 posted on 11/11/2003 7:07:28 PM PST by pc93 (Please visit http://bellsouthpwp.net/p/c/pc93/terri_schindler_life_ribbon_campaign.htm)
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To: george wythe
Michael Schiavo's attorney accused Bush of engaging in ``shameless delaying tactics.''

The truth:


109 posted on 11/11/2003 7:34:50 PM PST by Ronaldus Magnus
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To: george wythe
I thought she was a vegetable! Inert! Lifeless! Empty space where her brain used to be! The victim of self-inflicted bulemia, passed on to her reward, only the empty and expensive shell left behind! Vegetables have rights that can be violated? Vegetables can be harmed? Mr. Felos, I'm so con-f-u-sed.

/sarcasm.
111 posted on 11/11/2003 7:41:53 PM PST by ChemistCat (Hang in there, Terri. Absorb. Take in. Live. Heal.)
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To: george wythe
**Bush received an automatic stay of Michael Schiavo's lawsuit against him and Attorney General Charlie Crist by filing a notice of appeal on a decision by Circuit Judge Douglas Baird.**

Jeb is doing himself proud here!
139 posted on 11/11/2003 8:43:58 PM PST by Salvation (†With God all things are possible.†)
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To: george wythe
``shameless delaying tactics.''

Oh, look everyone, at how shamelessly the Governor delays court-sanctioned murder!

For shame! . . . . on the NGFBHINO Michael Schiavo.

144 posted on 11/11/2003 8:49:31 PM PST by Petronski (Living life in a minor key.)
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To: george wythe
Terri Schiavo's brain was damaged in 1990 when she suffered heart failure at the age of 26.

Reporters continue to get the facts wrong.

Terri was not and is not suffering from "heart failure," in the sense in which this term is most commonly used:

Heart failure: The inability of the heart to pump blood at an adequate rate, resulting in congestion in the lungs, shortness of breath, edema in the lower extremities, and enlargement of the liver.

Terri's heart stopped for several minutes. The cause has not been adequately explained. But she she did not have "heart failure."

149 posted on 11/11/2003 9:01:58 PM PST by shhrubbery!
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To: george wythe
It is a matter of her rights being ``violated on a daily basis'' versus Bush ``having to defend the case on its merits even though the sheriff did not knock on his door and serve him with a summons.''

Her rights? Her rights? What would this scumbag felos know about anyone's rights? What lagoon did this creature crawl out of?

This is the same line of crap that leftist liberals spout when confronted by debate over moral issues...They think that they have the insight to decide other people's rights. Only Terri herself has the right to ask for her rights and absent her ability to do so, then state has the moral legal ethical obligation to protect her from murder.

153 posted on 11/11/2003 9:06:09 PM PST by eleni121 (EAIT ot get routine tests.)
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To: george wythe; flattorney
This is the first article I've seen that explained what Baird cited as a "why" for spurning Jeb's claims of improper service and home court privilege. So it's being claimed that his having showed up in court in connection with the suit is tantamount to having been properly served, and that when a state government "takes action" against a citizen it may be challenged in that citizen's jurisdiction.

While sounding plausible on the surface, I'm still not sure whether this is ultimately "legal" or whether Baird has winged it a la FLangaroos. Bush's counsel, however, would be remiss not to try. If there is an "ulterior motive," it's not delay (as if Terri were hopping up and down screaming to die and the world would come to an end if it didn't happen within days) -- but to try to get the whole issue into a friendlier (more conservative) court in Leon County. This matters with respect to fact finding.
193 posted on 11/11/2003 10:35:55 PM PST by drlevy88
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"Terri Schiavo has more to lose than Bush does if the stay remains in place, Felos said."

*thinking* How does one lose MORE by staying alive than if they were to be starved????

Let me see...she has to breathe in and out...yeah...that's a loss of well spent energy!

Oh wait...being dead takes NO energy. Yeah...he's right...she loses more by staying alive!

I can't believe how moronic some attorneys are. They make all the rest look like idiots...and I'm sure there are those who aren't.
235 posted on 11/17/2003 1:43:26 PM PST by Augustinefan
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