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Close, But No Cigar For Strip Club
CBS News ^ | 11/4/03

Posted on 11/09/2003 12:30:26 PM PST by martin_fierro

A judge has ruled that a suburban topless bar does not qualify as a cigar bar exempt from the state indoor smoking ban just because 10 percent of its revenue comes from tobacco sales.

The owner of Diamond Dolls in Salina sued the Onondaga County Health Department in August after it was denied the exemption from the Clean Indoor Air Act, which generally requires a smoke-free workplace.

Only one bar in the county, Awful Al's in Syracuse, is a cigar bar with smoking permitted, Health Commissioner Dr. Lloyd Novick told The Post-Standard.

Diamond Dolls owner Ken Rubin claimed he met the only cigar bar criteria the state Legislature established because 10 percent of his 2002 gross revenue came from cigarette sales, even though the club doesn't actually sell cigars.

Acting State Supreme Court Justice James McCarthy ruled that fact does not transform the adult establishment into a cigar bar.

Rubin said an adult entertainment bar in Buffalo has been registered as a cigar bar, and he is considering an appeal.


TOPICS: Culture/Society; Miscellaneous; US: New York; Unclassified
KEYWORDS: buffalo; cigar; cigarbar; pufflist; salina; smokingbans; stripclub

1 posted on 11/09/2003 12:30:27 PM PST by martin_fierro
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To: *puff_list; Atchafalaya; Clemenza; JoeSixPack1; Kay Soze; rabidralph; Tijeras_Slim; TroutStalker; ..
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2 posted on 11/09/2003 12:31:33 PM PST by martin_fierro (_____oooo_(_°_¿_°_)_oooo_____)
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To: martin_fierro
The solution is simple, of course. You Yanks just need to fly down here to Alabama where we allow people to smoke everywhere, and where our topless bars are filled with cute young coeds earning money in between their college classes (one caution: Southern topless bars are devoid of talent during Spring Break and Summer vacation).
3 posted on 11/09/2003 12:35:29 PM PST by Southack (Media bias means that Castro won't be punished for Cuban war crimes against Black Angolans in Africa)
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To: martin_fierro

"I'm deeply saddened by this news."

4 posted on 11/09/2003 12:41:26 PM PST by Mr. Mojo
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To: martin_fierro
Acting State Supreme Court Justice James McCarthy ruled

That explains the decision.

5 posted on 11/09/2003 12:45:39 PM PST by ChefKeith (NASCAR...everything else is just a game!)
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To: Mr. Mojo
Guess monica won't be doin' her thing at this bar.

FMCDH

6 posted on 11/09/2003 12:52:59 PM PST by nothingnew (The pendulum is swinging and the Rats are in the pit!)
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To: martin_fierro
Uhm, so make patrons buy cigars to enter. Good excuse to get a few $1 bills for later use. =)
7 posted on 11/09/2003 12:53:38 PM PST by PokeyJoe (I thunk about thinking, but while thinking about what I thunk , I think I forgot.)
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To: martin_fierro
Only one bar in the county, Awful Al's in Syracuse, is a cigar bar with smoking permitted, ..

I said it years ago. When the smoking ban finally kicks in and starts hurting, permits will be available in the exact same fashion as "dancing" permits came to be.

When dancing was banned in the 50's because of the new jukebox record players at drug stores and soda shops, permits where sold to businesses that could afford the price of the permit and the cost of remodeling the establishment to comply with the new 'no dancing' laws' exemptions, but the jukebox lived on until technology outgrew them.

Same crap, different ban. 50 years later.

8 posted on 11/09/2003 1:00:34 PM PST by JoeSixPack1 (POW/MIA Bring 'em Home, Or Send us Back!! Semper Fi)
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To: martin_fierro
****Awful Al's in Syracuse****

LOL! Is that where algore hangs out at?

9 posted on 11/09/2003 1:22:15 PM PST by anncoulteriscool
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To: JoeSixPack1
I don't understand. Are you saying it is just about the money?

Not the government.

I don't belive you.

Honest.

10 posted on 11/09/2003 2:15:37 PM PST by Leisler
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To: Leisler
The same authority that would allow dancing or not, now has control to allow smoking or not.

How they utilize that control will tell us if it's just about the money.
11 posted on 11/09/2003 2:29:12 PM PST by JoeSixPack1 (POW/MIA Bring 'em Home, Or Send us Back!! Semper Fi)
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To: JoeSixPack1
< sarcasm/off >

Honest. Trust me. I swear.
12 posted on 11/09/2003 4:17:42 PM PST by Leisler
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To: Southack
The solution is simple, of course. You Yanks just need to fly down here to Alabama where we allow people to smoke everywhere, and where our topless bars are filled with cute young coeds earning money in between their college classes

Thanks for the tip. Do the strippers accept confederate dollars?

13 posted on 11/09/2003 5:32:47 PM PST by lowbridge (As God as my witness, I thought turkeys could fly. -Mr. Carlson, WKRP in Cincinnati)
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