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Flaws threaten Microsoft
GlobalTechnology.com ^
| Friday, Nov. 7, 2003
| Associated Press
Posted on 11/08/2003 11:34:09 PM PST by zeugma
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...reveals just how much of a threat to Microsoft's bottom line security flaws now represent.For the first time, it seemed, flaws in Microsoft's software were translating into flaws in the company's business model.
About time.
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posted on
11/08/2003 11:34:09 PM PST
by
zeugma
To: rdb3
Penguin Ping Please
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posted on
11/08/2003 11:34:55 PM PST
by
zeugma
(If you eat a live toad first thing in the morning, nothing worse will happen all day.)
To: zeugma
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posted on
11/08/2003 11:38:32 PM PST
by
Prime Choice
(The judiciary is supposed to be 1/3rd of the checks and balances; not a special interest trump card.)
To: zeugma
RedHat anyone????
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posted on
11/08/2003 11:47:48 PM PST
by
clee1
(Where's the beef???)
To: clee1
RedHat anyone???? Red Hat is about to become a lot more expensive.
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posted on
11/08/2003 11:57:41 PM PST
by
HAL9000
Comment #6 Removed by Moderator
To: Tim Dr Hook McCracken
Red Hat Drops Free Linux! Uh, not exactly.
They're re-naming their free line to 'Fedora'.
And they're focusing their business on 'Enterprise-class' work. They obviously think they can compete with IBM, Sun and MS for a chunk of that market. It's a tactical choice, the same one made by IBM. It makes sense, for IBM, who makes most of their real money from hardware and software infrastructure.
I'm not sure I think it's a smart choice for Red Hat, but it is their choice.
And this once again underscores perhaps the biggest single reason to use Linux -- Linux will go on. If you're not happy with this, you can go with one of a dozen other distros.
If you were on a highly proprietary OS, like Solaris or Win2K3Server, and they made some move like this, you'd be screwed.
To: Dominic Harr
In a totalitaran environment you don't need to be afraid to make "mistakes"
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posted on
11/09/2003 12:46:57 AM PST
by
Truth666
To: Dominic Harr
The battle between Microsoft and freedom loving persons
1. Microsoft sells Windows with security holes that are not revealed
2. One of these security holes is exposed by a freedom loving person.
3. Microsoft makes no clear statement about which Windows versions are affected.
4. Microsoft orders an update.
5. This way Microsoft ensures that the exposed hole is closed and at the same time a few new holes are added.
6. Freedom loving persons start looking for holes from scratch.
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posted on
11/09/2003 12:48:33 AM PST
by
Truth666
To: Truth666
"2. One of these security holes is exposed by a freedom loving person"You sound like one of these mentally deranged hackers that have created so many problems for so many for no reason at all. Get a life.
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posted on
11/09/2003 1:24:11 AM PST
by
at bay
(no deals, Jacquelyn, only choice of lobster, steak or chicken for last dinner party of one)
To: Truth666
Criminal behavior = Freedom.
You're a jerkoff.
To: Truth666
I know that you are simply a troll, but...
2. One of these security holes is exposed by a freedom loving person.
Do you vote Libertarian?
To: zeugma
bump
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posted on
11/09/2003 5:25:03 AM PST
by
Chief_Joe
(From where the sun now sits, I will fight on -FOREVER!)
To: zeugma
Microsoft is itself responsible for this situation. They created an architecture which allows executable content to be placed on machines without the consent of the user. They papered it over with a transparently flawed content-signing model.
Microsoft has been negligent. By ignoring the obvious consequences of their decisions on customers, a court might find them to have been civilly or criminally negligent.
Why did it happen? Because Microsoft managers are in it for the money only, are short sighted, and are more concerned with surviving in the organization long enough to vest their stock options, than in being customer or even corporate advocates.
Who will suffer? Well, we all will. But ultimately, Microsoft will, and its preeminence will be lost.
To: zeugma
I wish those Penguin Pings included apps. Much as I would love to switch to a different OS till there are real pro-music apps ready to use I just can't. Especially since win2003 server is so fast and solid...and no, I am NOT a M$ fan.
To: Tax Government
The users are to blame.
People keep finding excuses not to migrate off Microsoft, like a battered wife sticking with her abusive husband.
If they do it much longer, Microsoft will find a way to force people to use their server software, and, while they can never really "kill" Linux, will minimize its impact.
Wake up people. This is the time to get off Microsoft, while the gettin' is good!
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posted on
11/09/2003 6:31:55 AM PST
by
B Knotts
(Go 'Nucks!)
To: John Robinson; B Knotts; stainlessbanner; TechJunkYard; ShadowAce; Knitebane; AppyPappy; jae471; ...
The Penguin Ping.
Wanna be Penguified? Just holla!
Got root?
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posted on
11/09/2003 8:11:07 AM PST
by
rdb3
(We're all gonna go, but I hate to go fast. Then again, it won't be fun to stick around and go last.)
To: zeugma
wariness could prompt companies to delay software upgrades from every third to every fourth year That's what I expect. This effect will probably kick the serious revenue from Longhorn down the calendar another year or so. By the time Longhorn comes out, most of the Bad Stuff will have been wrung out of Windows 2003 server and the virus-writers will be finding it tougher to find new holes in it. The first few guys who put Longhorn out there will get whacked a few times, and everybody knows it. Most people will hang back and wait to see how many arrows in the back the pioneers get.
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posted on
11/09/2003 11:07:56 AM PST
by
Nick Danger
(With sufficient thrust, pigs fly just fine.)
To: Dominic Harr
Uh, not exactly. They're re-naming their free line to 'Fedora'.
Rrrrrright, Harr. Fedora is going to end up like Mozilla. Tepid support. Not widely used.
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posted on
11/09/2003 1:12:44 PM PST
by
Bush2000
To: Bush2000
You always amaze me in how little you need to know before you feel the need to speak.
Red Hat is changing their classic distro into a community project. It will be closer to Debian now in that it is developed by the community for the community. It will feature the more cutting edge features and be where r&d occurs. The Linux enthusiast doesn't demand production stability.
That's where the Enterprise Red Hat distro comes in. Features are second in priority to stability, security, and support.
Updates for the Enterprise version will be tested and certified by Red Hat. The same patches will be made available for Fedora, but without warrenty.
Fedora is free. Technically, so is Enterprise. You can still download the packages. You can still copy the CDs and give them away legally.
But of course, you don't care.It's your agenda to bash Linux and you've done that. Run along now, Sparky.
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