Terri's Fight - (Daily Thread/Updates) November 8 -10

Various | November 7, 2003 | sweetliberty

[sweetliberty]

TERRI'S FIGHT (Thread 6 - November 8-10, 2003) (Link back to thread 5 - Nov. 5-7)

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Contained in Thread 4:

Link to article on Michael Schiavo from hometown newspaper, information on death by starvation and dehydration, information on hospice eligibility and hospice and medicare/medicaid fraud, e-mail address for Judge Greer, transcript of Larry King Live interview with Michael Schiavo and George Felos, Terri's address at the hospice and the address for the foundation, to send cards for Terri's birthday (December 3), transcript of O'Reilly interview with Kate Adamson, e-mail addresses for Florida legislature, transcript of Abrams Report interview with George Felos and Pam Anderson, transcription of Terri's bone scan, legalese for dummies version of Gov. Bush's motion to dismiss Sciavo's suit against the Constitutionality of Terri's Law, link to FatherOfLiberty's research on HBOT (Hyperbaric Oxygen Therapy), links to ACLJ involvement in Schiavo case and Father Rob Johansen's daily update.

There are four other relevant posts that I want to highlight here in case anyone missed them or didn't get pinged. These are a general Terri thread troll alert, an especially thoughtful post about the sincere effort that FReepers are making in Terri's behalf, the Father's Love Letter , and remarks made by Jim Robinson on this issue and reposted here by lonevoice.

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Click on pic for Terri's website

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This thread serves as a place for posting all new general information and references, along with links following Terri's case, plus information on cable news and talk radio shows dealing with the issue, court cases and press releases. This is also the place to post contact information, prayers and general discussion.

If you have something that qualifies as BREAKING NEWS or FRONT PAGE NEWS, please post it on a separate thread in that category in order to give it maximum exposure and then post a link to the article/thread here so that it will be included in the next update of links. Also, if you post links to articles from original sources and there is also a thread on FR, please link to the FR thread. Many original links become corrupt over time and we want to be able to access the information at will.

There was a tremendous amount of information posted on the previous thread. For anyone who hasn't been following the daily threads, links to relevant posts and information from the previous thread are contained in the body of the present one. I have found that very helpful in trying to find something later. You people are doing a spectacular job of getting information out and also in helping to keep all of us updated here. What a great joint effort. This fight, to me, illustrates beautifully what Free Republic is about and what it means to be a FReeper. Way to go FRiends. Keep up the good work!

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Latest threads On Terri's Case

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Dean 'Appalled' That Florida Lawmakers Saved Schiavo

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Terri Schiavo Case: Creditable Witnesses & the 1st Guardian

Judge Rejects Bush Effort in Schiavo Case

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[windchime]

Bump!

[msmagoo]

Right you are, and thanks for pointing that out. Greer is hearing the petition for removal of Michael's guardianship and Baird is hearing the constitutionality case.

"Felos claimed the lawsuit was served properly on October 21, the day Bush signed Terri's Law into law. He said Bush's attorneys were faxed a copy of the lawsuit and participated in an emergency conference call with the judge that night.

He also said Circuit Judge Douglas Baird can rush the process because the lawsuit regards legal rather than factual concerns.

Connor said the motion was not a stalling tactic and said it was bad judgment to rush this case through the legal process.

"There is no margin for error here," he said, concerning Terri's life."

[Theodore R.]

Good Scriptures there, nicmarlo. Sometimes it seems no matter how much truth we expose in the daylight, the FL judiciary seems to ignore in the name of the "evil one."

[msmagoo]

He is eerily similar to Scott Peterson. The only difference is that in this case, it is the victim who is on trial and is facing the deatth penalty.

I hope Ken Connors and others in power see the similarities too. It's a very disturbing pattern of behavior.

[sweetliberty]

"Terri Schiavo didn't say, 'If I'm in a vegetative condition, I don't want to be kept alive artificially,'" Felos claimed. "She said, 'If I'm in a condition where I can't care for myself, I'm dependent on the care of others, I don't want to be kept alive artificially.'"

I was just reading that statement of Felos' in this article. I guess he thinks we should clean out the nursing homes, many hospital rooms and nurseries as well, if that is sufficient cause to terminate a person's life. What a slimey litte scumball he is.

Hey dumb*ss Felos.....FOOD AND WATER ARE NOT ARTIFICIAL MEANS OF BEING KEPT ALIVE! Georgy, I think it is YOU who is just a shell of a human being!

[tutstar]

I just had the thought that maybe Judge Baird's ruling may be a good thing???
Connor's brief(?) said the Gov had not had 'discovery'.......

Since Judge Baird is going to allow the suit to move forward will this mean that the Gov's team will be able to examine all previous court documents and examine witnesses?

[Dante3]

Michael S. sure reminds me also of Scott Peterson as well as Michael Peterson and other men who have chosen to kill their wives instead of getting a divorce. One dentist in New Jersey, I believe, apparently murdered his wife so that he could sue the car manufacturer. The death was listed as an accident until the lawsuit brought out ugly facts.

Isn't there some was to get an attempted murder investigation going? Michael is just in too much of a frenzy to have his wife die. A normal person or someone who had nothing horrible to hide would long have given up.

[nicmarlo]

Sometimes it seems no matter how much truth we expose in the daylight, the FL judiciary seems to ignore in the name of the "evil one."

True; but, even so, God is watching and He has a very long memory.

[Graymatter]

A 26-yr-old female therapist? He WOULD pick...

Nevertheless, as you say, the important thing is that even his therapist called him dangerous.

I don't know much about therapists (in my day we used relatives and priests and bartenders). But isn't it a breach of confidentiality to make assessments about your patient to other people?

[sweetliberty]

"A normal person or someone who had nothing horrible to hide would long have given up."

I agree with that. Michael has MUCH more at stake than he is letting on. He protests just a bit too much.

[nicmarlo]

Since Judge Baird is going to allow the suit to move forward will this mean that the Gov's team will be able to examine all previous court documents and examine witnesses?

Let's put it this way....IF this Court keeps being run as a circus, I cannot imagine that, eventually, the continually breaking of the Rules of Civil Procedure will be tolerated. David Boise tried to do that, and also, trample the Florida and US Constitutions. Having said that, it is also possible that they will continue to break all the rules that they should abide by.

However, I cannot imagine how even the Florida Kangaroo Court could allow flagrant violations of the Rules which govern litigation.

IMHO, Bush's attorney's are (besides trying to do their best to not have Terri's law ruled unconstitutional), at the very least, trying to make sure that EACH AND EVERY Florida Rule of Civil Procedure will be mentioned to support EACH AND EVERY request/demand in their pleadings/motions. In addition, I believe they will do an excellent job in citing EVERY POSSIBLE APPLICABLE CASE LAW to support their requests/demands (i.e. evidentiary hearing/discovery). The purpose: to set Greer up FOR APPEAL on each and every Order he issues that goes against case law and the Rules. (And IMHO, Bush's attorney did this from the get go.)

[msmagoo]

In this instance, the therapist probably had a legal obligation to warn the Schindlers if the incident with Suzanne was consistent with what she knew about Michael's loss of self-control or violent temper. To NOT do so, would place her at risk of being sued by the Schindlers if Caplan believed he was capable of violence, said nothing, and Michael later seriously injured Suzanne.

In other words, he's a scary kind of guy!

[msmagoo]

I should have said, 'he or she' in reference to Dr. Caplan, as we still don't know which Dr. Caplan was treating Michael.

[nicmarlo]

"The [man] doth protest too much, methinks."

[sfRummygirl]

OH! I see my Gopher Dean is sticking! I'm so proud.
Nickcarraway posted a great clip of him dancing....let me see if I can find it....

[nicmarlo]

and it could be "Kaplan"

[Chocolate Rose]

Bucks County, Pennsylvania newspaper dated July 2, 1997,
"survived by Michael and fiancee' Jodi" Centonze.

[Theodore R.]

Can one have a "fiancee" legally if he is still married to someone else?

[sfRummygirl]

There was a band out here called "Sandy Duncan's Glass Eye". In the early nineties, I think.

[sweetliberty]

I love that gopher. He's funny. I wouldn't rate him so much a panderer, though, as I would an annoying, but relatively harmless, prankster. As a troll, I would compare him to the DUhmmies from the DU who like to come over here and start threads, knowing they're gonna get zotted, but they are a nice diversion, a fun target and make for some hilarious threads.