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Posted on 11/07/2003 7:40:10 AM PST by GeronL
International Court of Justice rules in favour of Iran in oil platforms case
7 November The International Court of Justice (ICJ) has ruled in favour of Iran in its claim that the late-1980s bombing by the United States of its oil platforms in the Persian Gulf was in breach of a treaty between the two countries.
The Courts President, Judge Shi Jiuyong, read out its judgment which is final and cannot be appealed yesterday in The Hague, the Netherlands.
The Court ruled 14-2 that the US had breached its obligations under a 1955 treaty between the countries when it attacked and destroyed three oil production complexes in the Persian Gulf in October 1987 and April 1988. The majority of judges ruled the attacks could not be justified as acts of self-defence.
But, by the same margin, the ICJ ruled against Iran on its claim that it deserved reparations from the US for the platforms destruction. Iran argued it was entitled to compensation under the treatys provision for freedom of commerce between the two States.
However, the judges said the platforms destroyed in the first attack were being repaired and therefore not operational, while by the time of the second attack, the US had imposed an embargo on crude oil trade with Iran.
The judges ruled 15-1 against the US counter-claim that Iran had breached the same treaty when it attacked vessels in the Persian Gulf and engaged in certain military actions. The ICJ found that none of the ships alleged by the US to have been damaged by Iran were engaged in commerce between the two States
TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society; Foreign Affairs; Front Page News; Government
KEYWORDS: court; iran; un; us; worldcourt
Here we go
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posted on
11/07/2003 7:40:10 AM PST
by
GeronL
To: mhking; Sabertooth; Travis McGee; Sawdring; JohnHuang2
This deserves a big play
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posted on
11/07/2003 7:47:30 AM PST
by
GeronL
(Visit www.geocities.com/geronl)
To: GeronL
BS. Iran's government is a different regime from the one we signed the treaty with.
To: GeronL
Further evidence that refusing to acknowledge the ICC is a good policy.
To: DeuceTraveler; nuffsenuff; autoresponder
Now we'll have to see how much the US is ordered to pay in 'damages'.
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posted on
11/07/2003 8:00:18 AM PST
by
GeronL
(Visit www.geocities.com/geronl)
To: GeronL
The article says they aren't getting anything.
And THAT would be further evidence that the ICC is a joke.
To: GeronL
Maybe we can send it strapped to a cruise missile. Most likely it will be just ignored.
To: GeronL
To borrow a famous phrase,
Let them enforce it.
Seems to me most rational people would accept that when agreements are breached, overtly or covertly, the agreement is null and void.
Anybody have the coordinates of the delusional, so-called "world court"?
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posted on
11/07/2003 8:07:20 AM PST
by
Publius6961
(40% of Californians are as dumb as a sack of rocks.)
To: Publius6961
I would suppose its in the Hague
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posted on
11/07/2003 8:11:03 AM PST
by
GeronL
(Visit www.geocities.com/geronl)
To: GeronL
We signed that treaty with The Shah. Did we recognize the govt. currently running Iraq in 1988?
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posted on
11/07/2003 8:20:10 AM PST
by
.cnI redruM
(Mouthing support for the workingman is one of the best ways to avoid actually being one.)
To: GeronL
Oh, and small boat attacks, taking hostages, and firing on aircraft in international airspace are all ok .. Freakin Idiots!
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posted on
11/07/2003 8:22:16 AM PST
by
BlueNgold
(Feed the Tree .....)
To: GeronL
I think I heard one of the whiners on TV recently complaining that President Bush didn't respect international courts. Obvious why, isn't it?
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posted on
11/07/2003 8:24:11 AM PST
by
FreePaul
To: GeronL
I say we offer them a cash settlement ... all they have to do is come pick it up. For accounting purposes we will make 2 payments. One will be available on a crate in the COs driveway at Camp Lejeune, the other in a similar location at Camp Pendleton.
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posted on
11/07/2003 8:26:45 AM PST
by
BlueNgold
(Feed the Tree .....)
To: GeronL
This is a wash, Yes we violated the treaty, No the Iranians don't get any money.
0-0 tie
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posted on
11/07/2003 8:30:30 AM PST
by
GreenLanternCorps
("Vietnam was, in truth, a noble cause." - Ronald Wilson Reagan)
"The International Court of Justice (ICJ) has ruled in favour of Iran in its claim that the late-1980s bombing by the United States of its oil platforms in the Persian Gulf was in breach of a treaty between the two countries. " The International Court of Justice has sent Aquaman to patrol the waters.
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posted on
11/07/2003 8:31:47 AM PST
by
At _War_With_Liberals
(It took Zell Miller 1 minute to say what Republicans have been afraid to say for years...)
To: GeronL
The US isn't going to pay damages either way. But they said we didn't have to pay damages. There was a thread about this last night.
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posted on
11/07/2003 8:33:48 AM PST
by
wimpycat
To: GeronL
Parliament Used As Rubber Stamp To Ratify Non-Surrender Bilateral Agreement with US
November 4, 2003
Posted to the web November 4, 2003
Bismark Bebli
THE Leader of the Great Consolidated Popular Party (GCPP), Mr. Dan Lartey, yesterday lambasted the government for using parliament as a 'rubber stamp' to ratify the non-surrender bilateral agreement between Ghana and the United States.
"The president has only used the parliament as a rubber stamp for ratifying the agreement. Giving presidential assent to an agreement before sending it to parliament for approval means that you are only using parliament as a rubber stamp", Mr. Lartey charged in an interview with The Chronicle in Accra yesterday.
The veteran politician who chairs the grand coalition of Nkrumaist parties comprising GCPP, the People's National Convention (PNC) and EAGLE party, said the President knew that he had majority in parliament and that there was no way that the agreement would be rejected.
"Parliament should be able to have an opportunity to exhaust debate on the issue before endorsing it, this I say is unfortunate."
Mr. Lartey expressed shock and dismay at the way the government failed to subject the agreement to public debate before forwarding it to parliament for ratification.
'I am surprised about the way things were done. It means that there is nothing that the government could do to back out of the agreement. Backing out of it would come into fruition when the next government comes into power and subjects the issue to public debate but as at now the president used his whip.
"The agreement needs public debate because there is enormous confusion in it. As it is now, the situation is more complex and that is why we needed time for debate and more clarifications before it was sent to parliament for approval".
Mr. Lartey said the government has not told the nation what the agreement actually entails, adding that it seems to him that probably the US feels that there are cases of abuses which are likely to start with her citizens and she wants to have a safe haven for them.
Demanding further explanation, the GCPP leader, popularly called Mr. Domestication, asked whether if a person who has committed a serious crime from US and is on the run to Ghana he could be extradited or not?
Touching on the recent report by the Transparency International on the corruption perception index, the chairman noted he was not surprised that corruption in the country has increased.
He attributed this to over liberalization of the economy - too much import with less export - and lack of jobs resulting in the huge number of hawkers in the streets.
Mr. Lartey contended that there the country is crisis. "The country is full of crisis and if a country is full of crisis, the country is vulnerable to all manner of malpractices, the highest among them being corruption. It is no wonder that there is an upward trend in corruption because the government is not producing."
In order to avert corruption, he urged the government to tap the natural resources, help the farmers with subsidies to enable them to produce and above all create more jobs. "When more jobs are created, corruption would reduce, because if there is scarcity anything can happen," he predicted.
In a related development Linda Akrasi reports that the minority spokesman on Legal, Constitutional and Parliamentary Affairs Alhaji Mohammed Mumuni, has stated that it is very wrong in principle for Ghana to sign and ratify the bilateral agreement with the United States on the surrender of American citizens to the International Criminal Court (ICC) because it is in sharp contradiction with the principle that led to the establishment of the ICC under the Rome treaty.
He noted that Ghana has ratified the Rome treaty, taking a principled stand against impunity, which the ICC is aiming at doing.
Commenting on the ratification of the agreement in an interview with The Chronicle in Accra yesterday Alhaji Mumuni said that images coming from Austria, Rwanda, Sierra Leone, Liberia and Somalia have serious human rights violations and the global role and determination was that such heinous crimes against humanity such as genocide and ethnic cleansing should not go unpunished. That was why the United Nations, leading the world, championed the establishment of the ICC.
The MP for Kumbugu said the United States for whatever reason has not ratified the Rome treaty, so are countries like Russia, China, India but beyond not ratifying, the US has decided to bring about international bilateral agreements whereby countries that have ratified like Ghana would be bound not to surrender US citizens as well as its foreign contractors to the ICC.
Alhaji. Mumuni said that is basically wrong because it undermines the integrity of the jurisdiction of the ICC and this is why Ghana should never have signed it.
He explained that the military assistance the USA has specifically stated is in respect of each of the countries with whom it is seeking to enter into this bilateral agreement. "If you did not sign it with them you have to face sanctions which involves the withdrawal of certain financial assistance to those countries. In the case of Ghana it has to do with military assistance to the Ghana armed forces".
He said that makes the whole transaction immoral because it is clear blackmail for the US to say that, since Ghana's relationship with the US should be based on mutual respect and understanding and not on a beggar- owner relationship.
"To think that we succumb to that kind of blackmail really is a betrayal of our national sovereignty and our dignity as a nation.
"Other countries have rebuked it on that score including even countries that are in no better positions and are vulnerable like Ghana, have rebuked the agreement that we have signed".
On the implications that the agreement might cause Ghana in the future, the minority spokesman said that Ghana's standing in the world would be adversely affected since people are not going to take Ghana serious because "we can blow hot and cold".
"We will be described as being inconsistent and our behaviour would be unpredictable and even when we appear to be standing on a certain principle we can shift grounds when some kind of interest is thrown at us. It's a matter that goes to affect our credibility as a nation and its most unfortunate".
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posted on
11/07/2003 9:13:54 AM PST
by
veryone
To: GeronL
International Court of Justice rules in favour of Iran in oil platforms caseAnd???????
'scuse me, joke's over, I'm going back to sleep now :)
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posted on
11/07/2003 9:17:22 AM PST
by
upchuck
(Encourage HAMAS to pre-test their explosive devices. A dud always spoils everything.)
To: GeronL
"Judge Shi Jiuyong"
A CCP Judge?
Gee, I wonder why they ruled against the US?
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posted on
11/07/2003 9:41:21 AM PST
by
Dr. Marten
(To be conscious that you are ignorant is a great step to knowledge)
To: GeronL
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posted on
11/07/2003 10:58:22 AM PST
by
Tailgunner Joe
(Only UN-Americans put the UN before America!)
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