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Jessica: Army used me
NY Daily News ^ | November 7, 2003 | CORKY SIEMASZKO

Posted on 11/07/2003 7:31:52 AM PST by presidio9

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To: gitmogrunt
"There were five Soldiers in 1SG Dowdy’s vehicle: 1SG Dowdy, his driver PFC Piestewa, and three Soldiers in the back—PFC Lynch, SGT Buggs and PFC Anguiano. 1SG Dowdy was killed on impact. Piestewa survived the crash, but was seriously injured and died in captivity. Lynch was also seriously injured and captured. The circumstances of Buggs’ and Anguiano’s deaths remain under investigation."

Futher the report sayeth not.

481 posted on 11/11/2003 5:44:16 AM PST by William Terrell (Individuals can exist without government but government can't exist without individuals.)
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To: .30Carbine
The leftpress routinely 'reports' half the news; they now boldly take newsworthy quotes and shorten, chop, rearrange, and repunctuate them, as with President Bush's State of the Union speech. Keep reminding them, #3Fan, someday soon not only FReepers, but everyone will get it.

Thanks for your excellent post! You pinged me on the prophecy thread that I haven't been able to get to yet so I'll say this: I think prophecy states the lying media as being one of the evils of the end times. The radical portions of fundamentalists are our current physical enemy, enemies that come and go, like the British, who were once our enemy but now our best friends, but the lying media and the other institutions connected to it are a big part of our spiritual enemy that have always been against us in one form or another.

482 posted on 11/11/2003 5:45:33 AM PST by #3Fan
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To: Coop
So then you share #3's opinion that the quote attributed to Jessica (dissing the Army) is false? Made up? Because it needs no context - it stands on its own, and I don't care for it one bit.

There's a big difference between these two statements:

1. "The Army used me."

2. "The army used me to strengthen morale."

I'm amazed you can't see that.

483 posted on 11/11/2003 5:48:14 AM PST by #3Fan
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To: Coop
"To me, the real heroes are those who have given their lives for our nation, the soldiers who risked their lives to rescue me, the professionals who served in the military medical department - they perform miracles every day to save lives. To me, these are heroes."

Quote from Jessica Lynch found at the bottom of this article.

484 posted on 11/11/2003 5:55:20 AM PST by .30Carbine
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To: William Terrell
I understand and I agree. Private Lynch maintains that she tried to fire her weapon, but it jammed. I don't know if that's the case. The official report, as you point out, doesn't indicate anything like that. Who knows? She says that she tried to fire, fine. If she was scared to death and surrendered, that would be plausible too. However, that is all speculation. The real issue is Pvt. Lynch asserting that she has "been used" by the Pentagon.

The reports that have been made by the Army haven't glorified her involvement or portrayed her in some light that could be considered propoganda (as Pvt. Lynch asserted in the Diane Sawyer interview, which was the spark that lit this thread's fire).

As I have pointed out on this thread several times, when initially asked --during the whole "fog of war"-- the Army briefer (Gen. Brooks) informed the reporters that the Army expects all soldiers to fight and that it wouldn't be uncommon for a soldier to fire his weapon in the face of an aggressor (duh! but, to the spineless reporters that went to Columbia witha silver spoon in their mouth, this is actually news). He added, however, that they still were trying to find the details out.

The reporters (not the Army or the Pentagon) took the hardly known facts and extrapolated it into this "Saving Private Lynch"/"Rambo" tale.

The fact is that Pvt. Lynch suffered a terrible ordeal. We all wish that she hadn't gone through it. We all wish her as full a recovery (physical and mental) as possible. However, her comments were misdirected at the Pentagon.

485 posted on 11/11/2003 6:38:41 AM PST by mattdono (Big Arnie: "Crush the democrats, drive them before you, and hear the lamentations of the scumbags.")
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To: .30Carbine; #3Fan
I read that quote. I'm glad she's giving credit where it's due. However, I also read this quote, which is exactly the quote I reacted to.

"They used me as a way to symbolize all this stuff," Lynch said in an interview with Diane Sawyer that airs Tuesday, Veterans Day.

"Yeah, it's wrong," Lynch said. "I don't know why they filmed it, or why they say the things" they said.

Now, if she has been misquoted, or if the media truly twisted her words out of context, then I'll apologize. But I'm assuming the quote is correct, and I don't like it one bit.

486 posted on 11/11/2003 7:05:25 AM PST by Coop (God bless our troops!)
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To: Coop
She said they used her to symbolize that stuff. No big deal. In the second one since she also said "or why they say those things", she was referring to the Rambo story, so that means to me that the first was a humble statement instead of a whining statement, that the heros were the ones that rescued her. I think you guys are overreacting big time to a couple of pretty harmless statements.
487 posted on 11/11/2003 8:18:12 AM PST by #3Fan
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To: mattdono
The reports that have been made by the Army haven't glorified her involvement or portrayed her in some light that could be considered propoganda (as Pvt. Lynch asserted in the Diane Sawyer interview, which was the spark that lit this thread's fire).

She never said propaganda, she was referring to using her to boost morale. She was saying that they could've used the rescuers or others to do that. You guys are making a big deal out of nothing.

488 posted on 11/11/2003 8:20:49 AM PST by #3Fan
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To: #3Fan
she was referring to using her to boost morale.

First of all, what's wrong with that?

Second, she indicated that she wasn't pleased with the use of the video of her rescue. That's the facts. I am baffled by why she could possibly be displeased with boosting the troops morale. Further, she can't use the video as the focus of "boosting morale", because most of the troops in the field heard about it before they ever saw it.

Her rescue, if anything, is what boosted morale; not a video of the rescue.

Look, dude, I'm not upset at her, per se. I just wish that she would have been mindful of what she said to the media. It may have been inadvertant, but she threw a huge amount of "red meat" the liberal press by even intoning that the Pentagon had done something inappropriate vis-a-vis showing the video of her rescue.

489 posted on 11/11/2003 9:58:19 AM PST by mattdono (Big Arnie: "Crush the democrats, drive them before you, and hear the lamentations of the scumbags.")
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To: #3Fan
And if you don't believe me that Jessica Lynch has thrown the liberals red meat, see the following link:

Jesse Jackson: Bush Selling War, Hiding Casualties

So, the Slogan-master had this to say:

"[Jackson] mentions that Jessica Lynch disputes the pentagon version of what happened to her – even though she was unconscious most of the time and doesn't remember, so who really knows what happened? – in order to point out that the Pentagon is trying to give the Iraq war an "image.""
So, you can believe what you want to believe. I just wish that Jessica would clarify what she said. If they (the liberals) are taking her out of context, than she should be the ones that clears it up...not you. If, however, she meant what she said, then I would tell her to respect the troops that are still in the field and keep her comments to herself.
490 posted on 11/11/2003 10:04:42 AM PST by mattdono (Big Arnie: "Crush the democrats, drive them before you, and hear the lamentations of the scumbags.")
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To: mattdono
First of all, what's wrong with that?

That's exactly my point. She said they were using her for morale. The evil liberal media then shortens that to "Army used me", quoting her out of context, and then claims she angrily said it, and you guys suck it up, hook, line, and sinker. Can't you check the facts before you believe everything the liberal media says?

Second, she indicated that she wasn't pleased with the use of the video of her rescue. That's the facts. I am baffled by why she could possibly be displeased with boosting the troops morale.

Because they portrayed her as the hero, instead of others. And that has caused many to hate her, and she is hurt by that.

Further, she can't use the video as the focus of "boosting morale", because most of the troops in the field heard about it before they ever saw it.

I think there's no doubt that the video was used to boost morale (which isn't a bad thing, by the way).

Her rescue, if anything, is what boosted morale; not a video of the rescue.

A picture is worth a thousand words.

Look, dude, I'm not upset at her, per se. I just wish that she would have been mindful of what she said to the media.

She's 20, just two years out of the public schools, she's no presidential candidate who would know better how to handle the evil media.

It may have been inadvertant, but she threw a huge amount of "red meat" the liberal press by even intoning that the Pentagon had done something inappropriate vis-a-vis showing the video of her rescue.

Baloney! The liberal press twists everything anyone says. We shouldn't shut up because we're afraid of the liars. We should keep speaking the truth.

491 posted on 11/12/2003 3:40:46 AM PST by #3Fan
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To: mattdono
And if you don't believe me that Jessica Lynch has thrown the liberals red meat, see the following link:

Who doesn't throw them meat. They lie about everyone.

Jesse Jackson: Bush Selling War, Hiding Casualties So, the Slogan-master had this to say:

Who cares what he says.

So, you can believe what you want to believe. I just wish that Jessica would clarify what she said.

It looks to me that the only people taking the media's version of events are the Lynch-beashers, so I don't think she has to do anything other that what she had planned. That's how the media generates stories, they lie and then make those they lied about to come out again and explain, and then attack them again. No, she should let the good people hear her, and just let the liars and the bashers keep hating her, because that's all they will ever do anyway no matter what she tries to do to placate them, as we've seen with her deferring the hero label. The bashers have been wanting that for 7 months and when she finally does it, they attack her for it.

If they (the liberals) are taking her out of context, than she should be the ones that clears it up...not you. If, however, she meant what she said, then I would tell her to respect the troops that are still in the field and keep her comments to herself.

There's no way I would ever recommend that good people keep quiet in the public forum for fear of the liars. We should keep speaking the truth despite our lying enemies. When we hide in a corner with zippers over our mouths for fear of the media, then the evil media has won.

492 posted on 11/12/2003 3:49:06 AM PST by #3Fan
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To: HamiltonJay
There is no doubt propoganda was used around her rescue, and I personally am glad to see she is not letting all this hoopla go to her head, and is showing true respect for her fallen comrades. (I do have to question her $1MM book deal) But that's the only thing I can complain about.

Well, I look at it this way.

Here we have a young woman who has been through quite a horrific ordeal; is going to have to carry around the emotional and physical scars for the rest of her life. She is probably going to have continuing, and no doubt expensive, medical needs for years to come. She's been pulled and used by all sides for their specific agendas, so I'll give her a pass on a measly $1MM book deal.

493 posted on 11/12/2003 9:03:55 AM PST by AFreeBird (your mileage may vary)
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