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Praise in Arab world for Bush speech
MSNBC ^ | 11/07/2003 | Charlene Gubash

Posted on 11/07/2003 4:59:36 AM PST by HarleyD

President Bush’s speech about the need for democracy in the Middle East was met with a mixture of rare praise and skepticism here Thursday. While commentators condemned the U.S. leader for again, in their view, ignoring Israel’s occupation of Palestinian territory, some hailed his remarks as “historic.” In fact, analysts and commentators who are usually outraged over the U.S. administration’s policy in the region found themselves in agreement on many points.

THE PRESIDENT made a plea for democratic reforms in the Middle East the cornerstone of a speech dealing with democratic values across the globe.

And he acknowledged shortcomings in past policy, saying the United States and other nations shared blame for the lack of democratic freedoms in the Middle East. “Sixty years of Western nations excusing and accommodating the lack of freedom in the Middle East did nothing to make us safe, because in the long run stability cannot be purchased at the expense of liberty,” Bush said Thursday.

The president spoke to the National Endowment for Democracy, a group that champions democratic gains around the world, on the same day that he was signing an $87.5 billion package approved by Congress for military and reconstruction operations in Iraq and Afghanistan.

U.S. war in those two Islamic countries, notably to oust Saddam Hussein in Iraq, have served to seriously damage America’s reputation across the Arab world. And what’s seen as Washington’s bias toward Israel in the conflict with the Palestinians has undermined its credibility in the Middle East.

HISTORIC

Consequently words of praise were unexpected. “It is an historical speech, and I agree with what the president had to say, and this is the first time,” said Hafez Abu Se’da, head of the Egyptian Organization for Human Rights.

“It is a new vision from the United States now because they focus on democracy. For a long time, they focused on economy and commercial interests. It is historical because the United States is talking about democracy and the interest of the people in these countries.”

The human rights advocate also praised what Bush had to say about democracy’s being compatible with Islam and Arab culture. “I agree with him. Always we hear from the governments of this region saying our culture is not ready for democracy, that we have our own type of democracy. This is not true. Democracy is democracy, freedom is freedom…. Islam is compatible with democracy and is not against democracy,” Abu Se’da said.

But Abu Se’da said that just as the area needs democracy and justice, the United States has an important role to play by solving the Israeli-Palestinian problem in a just way. Abu Se’da said he believes that Arab regimes will condemn the speech because “democracy means they will lose their seats.” While he said he feels Bush’s words will be welcomed by intellectuals and human rights advocates, Abu Se’da suggested that Arab governments may use the media to turn public opinion against Washington’s call for democracy. He also agreed that Egypt has a role to play in leading the region toward democracy as it has led the region toward peace.

RECOGNITION OF ISLAM

Suzy al Guindi, an Egyptian journalist, liked the way Bush spoke about Islam and the fact that he recognized that the Middle East doesn’t need the same style of democracy as Western countries. But she said she wanted to see a more even-handed approach toward Israel.

“It was a good speech, it was a very good speech, but we need to see more actions…. We need to see a more moderate way of thinking and acting, especially in the way they are dealing with the Palestinians and Iraq. Israel is doing a lot, but nothing is said by the United States. They criticized the wall [that Israel is building to isolate the Palestinians] but now are keeping silent about it.”

Political science professor Mona Makram Obeid said the speech will be welcomed with reservations in the Arab world, because “like so many times, things that smack of truth fall short of the administration’s interest.” People will question the depth of the U.S. commitment because the speech came at a time when the administration’s credibility is at an all-time low, Obeid said. “The region has never been as anti-American as it has in the past weeks, so this speech comes at a time when there is not much credibility in the Bush administration,” Obeid said. “People are outraged by Iraq, by the bias toward Israel.”

Obeid said she thinks that Bush’s words will provoke wide and intense debate because while people are hungry for democracy, they don’t like the way the United States has imposed it by force. “Some feel that the administration has previously shown a heavy-handed way of wanting to impose something that is good for us,” she said. But she conceded, “People have noted the change of tone and conciliatory way in which he has presented his idea. People are yearning for change, for more modernized systems.”

Obeid said she believes that Bush chose to promote democracy for political reasons. “He needed something, anything today to show some balance in the way that people look at the Bush administration.”

RINGING HOLLOW?

In Saudi Arabia, Khaled Al-Maeena, editor-in-chief of the Arab Times daily, said he agreed with much of what Bush had to say. “Everybody likes democracy and wants empowerment,” he said. But Al-Maeena also said Bush’s message rang hollow because “America’s goodwill is tainted by its blatant support for Israel.

“Had [Bush] also said that tomorrow there will be freedom for the Palestinians,” his message would have been credible, Al-Maeena said. Although Bush criticized the Palestinian government, Al-Maeena countered, “You cannot have good government when you are occupied.”

While he said he believes that the movement toward democracy must be spearheaded by the people of the region, Al-Maeena, like many others, found something positive in Bush’s comments on Islam. “At least those people who are anti-Islam know that Islam is not anti-democratic.”


TOPICS: Foreign Affairs; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: ageofliberty; ageoflibertyspeech; arabworld; bush43; middleeast; praise; speech; worldopinion
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Kind of surprising to see a kind (albeit very small) word from the Nazi Broadcasting Company. What's most surprising is the starvation people in this region has for freedom. Perhaps Bush hit a nerve.
1 posted on 11/07/2003 4:59:36 AM PST by HarleyD
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To: HarleyD
“You cannot have good government when you are occupied.”

And you're not going to get un-occupied until you develop an accountable government. So quit with making excuses.

2 posted on 11/07/2003 5:15:15 AM PST by big gray tabby
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To: HarleyD
In Saudi Arabia, Khaled Al-Maeena, editor-in-chief of the Arab Times daily, said he agreed with much of what Bush had to say. “Everybody likes democracy and wants empowerment,” he said. But Al-Maeena also said Bush’s message rang hollow because “America’s goodwill is tainted by its blatant support for Israel.

Khaled's idea of democracy is 3 wolves and 1 sheep deciding whats for dinner.

The middle east does crave democracy but they have much to learn about the concept.

3 posted on 11/07/2003 5:17:58 AM PST by mylife
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To: HarleyD
This was a tremendously important speech. It will be remembered as Bush's "tear down this wall" moment.
4 posted on 11/07/2003 5:56:02 AM PST by DManA
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To: HarleyD
“Sixty years of Western nations excusing and accommodating the lack of freedom in the Middle East did nothing to make us safe, because in the long run stability cannot be purchased at the expense of liberty,” Bush said Thursday.

Truth bump.

5 posted on 11/07/2003 6:00:56 AM PST by eyespysomething (As iron sharpens iron, so one man sharpens another. (Proverbs 27:17))
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To: HarleyD
“You cannot have good government when you are occupied.”

The reason you are occupied is you condone, teach, and finance murder over the entire world. Stop the killing.
6 posted on 11/07/2003 6:02:53 AM PST by tkathy (The islamofascists and the democrats are trying to destroy this country)
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To: DoctorZIn
ping
7 posted on 11/07/2003 6:03:47 AM PST by Pan_Yans Wife (You may forget the one with whom you have laughed, but never the one with whom you have wept.)
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To: HarleyD
What, not all Arabs are foam at the mouth jihadists only intent on destroying America?

All nations and religions have men of reason, men of peace...and all have the opposite. This was a very brave step for President Bush and our nation, and hopefully will become a very brave step for Arabs of reason.

8 posted on 11/07/2003 6:06:38 AM PST by CWOJackson
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To: HarleyD
"Islam is compatible with democracy and is not against democracy,” Abu Se’da said"

No according to the conclusion reached by every top respected, (by the muslim world), scholars of Islam. They said Islam and democracy can't coexist.

9 posted on 11/07/2003 6:10:27 AM PST by MissAmericanPie
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To: HarleyD
Contrary to what the opinions of these Arabs suggest, Bush did address the Palestinians. He said for the Palestinians to gain democracy, that the Palestinian leadership has to abandon terrorism.

I guess they just didn't like the idea of abandoning terrorism against Israelis
10 posted on 11/07/2003 6:15:08 AM PST by kidd
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To: HarleyD
I kind of get the feeling they all hate Israel...

That said, Bush's speech was superb. Once again his critics are squabbling over his footprints while he's already a mile down the road. I hope the US media and politicians can recognize the genius and opportunity he outlined.
11 posted on 11/07/2003 6:23:04 AM PST by Puddleglum
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To: CWOJackson
All nations and religions have men of reason, men of peace...and all have the opposite.

In the natural world, you are correct. But some nations have a policy of teaching their young to hate and murder, while others teach love and fair play. Therein lies the difference.

12 posted on 11/07/2003 6:36:31 AM PST by Attillathehon (Just got this story in my email.)
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To: DManA
You don't happen to have a link for this speech?
Thanks.
13 posted on 11/07/2003 6:53:01 AM PST by Valin (We make a living by what we get, we make a life by what we give.)
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To: mylife
No kiddin. A society that considers women as chattel property has a long way to go.
14 posted on 11/07/2003 7:07:59 AM PST by Eric in the Ozarks
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To: HarleyD
bump
15 posted on 11/07/2003 7:09:53 AM PST by VOA
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To: Valin
you can find it at: http://www.ned.org/
16 posted on 11/07/2003 7:30:59 AM PST by EDINVA
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To: EDINVA
Who da Man..You Da Man!
17 posted on 11/07/2003 7:34:09 AM PST by Valin (We make a living by what we get, we make a life by what we give.)
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To: HarleyD
I'll believe it when they start treating their women better than their camel!
18 posted on 11/07/2003 7:35:18 AM PST by aShepard
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To: Valin
more specifically: http://www.ned.org/events/anniversary/oct1603-Bush.html
19 posted on 11/07/2003 7:36:11 AM PST by EDINVA
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To: HarleyD
In Saudi Arabia, Khaled Al-Maeena, editor-in-chief of the Arab Times daily, said he agreed with much of what Bush had to say. “Everybody likes democracy and wants empowerment,” he said. But Al-Maeena also said Bush’s message rang hollow because “America’s goodwill is tainted by its blatant support for Israel.

Let me see if I understand this,
1 praises President Bush for supporting democracy
2 slams President Bush for supporting a democracy

Question, should I be having this pain in my head?

20 posted on 11/07/2003 7:38:45 AM PST by Valin (We make a living by what we get, we make a life by what we give.)
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