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1 posted on 11/07/2003 2:31:27 AM PST by kattracks
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It should suprise no one that Dean believes that the courts are so dense as to not recognize the correct ruling in this case. After all, he as much as said recently that Southerners are too stupid to vote.
2 posted on 11/07/2003 2:34:17 AM PST by johniegrad
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Oh, yeah! This is really gonna get him a lot of fans!

Metrosexual Dean's just making more and more bad choices. I wonder what he'll say/do next week for our humor.

4 posted on 11/07/2003 2:43:04 AM PST by RandallFlagg ("There are worse things than crucifixion...There are teeth.")
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I didn't think much of Dean before, but now I hate the guy. First of all, I don't believe for a minute that if this case were in Vermont that he as well wouldn't have given in to the public pressure and done the same thing, whether he agrees or not. I would note that Jeb Bush showed quite a bit of restraint; he hardly jumped on it or got up on a soap box. Secondly, how dare he suggest that the legislature is not qualified to legislate on an issue because medicine is somehow involved. That comment about the MD's and BS's is a really arrogant insult to the legislators in every state. For him to say he's "tired" of them is really offensive. While he may be a doctor, he draws his pay as the Governor of Vermont. Or has he forgotten? Awfully convenient that he can slip on that doctors coat when it suits him politically and try to pull a rank over the legislators and even the Governor of another State. MD or not, just who does he think he is? Finally, it doesn't take an MD to see that this isn't a right to die case at all, it's a right to live, or more specifically a right not to be deprived of life case. At the absolute minimum, reasonable people widely disagree on the issues in this case. Many reasonable people think this may even be a murder case. With such an open and legitimate controversy surrounding the case, an overwhelming preference should be given to preserving the status quo while it can be thoroughly investigated. A quick death and cremation is extremely inappropriate. The Governor's stay and the legislation that permits it are perfectly appropriate to such an important case where so much remains unsettled. Terri has the rest of eternity to be dead, just like all the rest of us. To say that the Governor's stay represents an "interference" in her "right to die" is an absurd and shocking misunderstanding of what's going on here. As a politician, Howard Dean is an arrogant ass. And now that I think about it, I wouldn't want him as my doctor either. I'd rather have Jeb Bush for that too. Better chance of getting fed that way.
5 posted on 11/07/2003 2:45:49 AM PST by Johassen (Veritas Vincit)
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Pamela Hennessy - spokeswoman for Terri's parents, Robert and Mary Schindler - called Dean's comments "a monumental display of bad taste in every way imaginable.

I can understand why she feels this way, with a trained medical doctor speaking out for the murder of a young woman whose family has gone to such great lengths to save her.

But everyway imaginable? Not for Ditsy Dean. He has found a way to offend pick-up truck drivers, all Southerners, blacks, 2nd ammendment supporters, Greens, even anti-war types, and almost every other Dem vying for the nomination. As far as bad taste and offending groups of people goes, he's equal-opportunity.

7 posted on 11/07/2003 2:50:25 AM PST by grania ("Won't get fooled again")
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This is the guy who wants to reach out to Southern voters? Just how, exactly, does he plan to do that?
9 posted on 11/07/2003 3:03:14 AM PST by samtheman
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I agree with little Dean has to say about anything ... however, where this issue is concerned he's absolutely right on the money.
11 posted on 11/07/2003 3:11:20 AM PST by BluH2o
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Hey howie, when you don't make it as president you can always become an abortion doctor (?) performing PBA.

It seems that you have the right ideas along these perverted lines.

12 posted on 11/07/2003 3:15:13 AM PST by chiefqc
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Boy, Ole Dean sure knows how to get those southern votes doesn't he? Lets see now, first it was the confederate flag and pickups, now giving his expertese on death and courts, wonder what will be next. We need to really ENCOURAGE him to keep it up.
16 posted on 11/07/2003 3:49:09 AM PST by gulfcoast6 (Prayers for President Bush please, lets help him out.)
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Metrosexual just fires another round from the loose cannon into his head.
18 posted on 11/07/2003 4:11:00 AM PST by AmericaUnited
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I agree with Joe Lieberman. So much for Nikita Dean's respect for state's rights and the right to life. The Left has devolved to the point where it embraces killing as state protected and naturally embraces sociopaths and murderous dictators as allies while scorning the unborn and promoting euthanasia for the helpless. That's the Left's idea of utopia. A safe world for the cruel and vicious amongst us while condemning the innocent to their fate. The famous Talmudic aphorism springs to mind and I'm sure Dr. Dean knows what it means. Its unbelievable a presidential candidate takes a moral dilemma and parleys it into a partisan broadside. Has Dr. Dean no shame? We should expect more from a man aspiring to hold the nation's highest office in the future.
19 posted on 11/07/2003 4:13:46 AM PST by goldstategop (In Memory Of A Dearly Beloved Friend Who Lives On In My Heart Forever)
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"He [Lieberman] was smart enough and man enough to see that not everything that happens in life is a question of politics," Hennessy said. "He recognized that, and he didn't turn it into a political fight."

Lieberman, who drew criticism during his 2000 vice presidential bid for waffling on pro-life issues, told the Associated Press in October that he supports Terri's Law.

"I feel very strongly that we ought to honor life, and we ought not to create a system where people are being deprived of nutrition or hydration in a way that ends their lives," Lieberman said.

LMAO! He didn't turn it into a political fight, because he chose your side, Ms. Hennessy! If he had chosen the same position as Dean, you would be lambasting him, too!

21 posted on 11/07/2003 4:21:07 AM PST by Pan_Yans Wife (You may forget the one with whom you have laughed, but never the one with whom you have wept.)
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The word Arrogant comes to mind along with insulting and condescending when the name Howard Dean is mentioned. Consider the following.......

"Vermont's population as of the 2000 census was about 609,000, similar to Milwaukee and several other cities. Vermont's non-white population was 1.6% and its black population was 1/2 of 1%. Vermont is a virtual melting pot of white liberals and cows. It is preposterous and laughable for Dean to suggest he has the experience needed to take on the Presidency of the United States of America, the world's defender of freedom."

22 posted on 11/07/2003 4:31:57 AM PST by yoe (Term Limits - and 2 terms are the limit for all elected to a Federal office!!)
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Dean is way out of line on this one. As a physician he should understand the brashness of offering medical opinion on a patient that he is not personally familiar with. And the "MD vs BS" statement further solidifies his image as an elitist Northern liberal.

I so hope that this guy wins the nomination...
27 posted on 11/07/2003 4:54:01 AM PST by Toskrin
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Let me get this straight. The government has no right to get involved in keeping this woman alive, but they have the DUTY to provide FREE prescription drugs to all the other elderly people in this great land. Why not save BILLIONS and let them all die naturally?
28 posted on 11/07/2003 4:58:43 AM PST by Living Free in NH (I'm Living Free in NH and I approved this post.)
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This whole thing is not about a persons right to die or assisted suicide!

First of all, a feeding tube is not considered life support, there are a great many people in hospitals that are put on them because feeding them by mouth would endanger their life or they have some physical or muscular situation to make it impractical. It may be a permanent situation or only a temporary one. Feeding by tube is just another way to deliver food and water to the patient.

Second of all, suicide requires the person to make the choice themself. If she sincerly wanted to go that route she should have had a health proxy stating that. As far as I'm concerned, her husbands hearsay should not be considered her proxy in absentia IMO. Be that the case, I thinks it's much better that they error on the side of life especially since she doesn't seem to be suffering from all I have heard or read about it.



31 posted on 11/07/2003 5:15:39 AM PST by SirFishalot
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When was the last time Dean treated a patient in a clinical setting?
35 posted on 11/07/2003 5:23:32 AM PST by Mamzelle
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Dean is such a supporter of assisted suicide that he's proving it by committing political suicide every time that he speaks. I only wish that he'd shut up until after he gets the nomination.
36 posted on 11/07/2003 5:30:56 AM PST by birdsman (bs)
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""embarrassed" for intervening to save the life of Terri Schindler Schiavo last month"

Well, this says it all about his character. I am embarrased that he is running for president... and "deeply saddened".
53 posted on 11/07/2003 8:41:56 AM PST by diamond6 ("Everyone who is for abortion HAS been born." Ronald Reagan)
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"I feel very strongly that we ought to honor life, and we ought not to create a system where people are being deprived of nutrition or hydration in a way that ends their lives," Lieberman said.

No wonder the liberals hate Lieberman so much.

56 posted on 11/07/2003 9:03:08 AM PST by dead (I've got my eye out for Mullah Omar.)
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"As a medical doctor...," claims Florida Republicans should be "embarrassed" for intervening to save the life of Terri Schindler Schiavo last month. Earlier in the year, Dean publicly expressed his support for physician-assisted suicide.

Uckfay Ouyay, Owardhay Eanday !!!

And you have the nerve to call yourself a Doctor???

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59 posted on 11/07/2003 9:18:20 AM PST by GeekDejure (<H3> Searching For The Meaning Of "Huge" Fonts !!!</H3>)
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