Economy's woes didn't slow aliens By Jerry Seper

Washington Times ^ | Friday, November 7, 2003 | By Jerry Seper

[JohnHuang2]

The September 11 terrorist attacks and the economic downturn had no significant impact on the pace of immigration nationally, with more than 2.3 million new immigrant workers arriving in the United States since 2000

[JohnHuang2]

Friday, November 7, 2003

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[HiJinx]

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[HiJinx]

He said the country's current economic slowdown presented "a real-world test" of the widespread contention that immigration was primarily driven by the country's labor needs.

You mean...maybe...they come over for something other than work? What could that be? Could it be...welfare? Or is it...Freedom?

Actually, both are very strong attractants.

[Regulator]

Mostly the welfare. Visit a hospital in California, and that's the only conclusion you can come away with.

[janetgreen]

Visit a hospital in California

California emergency rooms are filled with non-English speakers, coming for free medical care. In many hospitals even the nurses have a hard time speaking English. No one in Washington seems to give a damn about this. The taxpayers are instructed to shut up and just pay for it.

[MissAmericanPie]

"He said the fact that immigration has not slowed significantly since 2000, even though unemployment has increased significantly, indicates that immigration levels do not simply reflect demand for labor in this country."

What it reflects is the demand in this country to pay illegal wages under the table. No SS matching funds, no insurance coverage, no paper work..and the golden apple of the Welfare safety net.

There is a small town not far from me, Olney, Texas. There the government has built a welfare apartment complex raising the population of the town from 1,200 to 2,000. They don't work, speak english, or pay taxes. What they do accomplish is theft, robbery, harrasment of the locals and the locals children in public school. And this is repeating itself in small towns all across America.

Yesterday I was on the phone to friends that live there, they related how on Halloween night, pickup truck loads, from there and the surrounding area, of them were going door to door trick or treating. They said the neighborhood turned their porch lights off and closed business for the evening. The citizens felt these folks get enough free goodies without them having to contribute directly.

[Regulator]

Hey, it ain't just the ER's, Janet. I've been spending a lot of time lately in a coastal hospital, and Spanish is the language of about half the occupants -- including the people working there (white males are limited pretty much to only being there if they happen to have MD appended to their name).

Who's paying for all the fun? All you have to do is look at the brochures (all helpfully in Spanish) and listen to the Social Workers (who are all, conveniently, fluent in Espanol). The answer is...MediCare, MediCal, and in my county, MediCruz. Oh and WIC (application forms helpfully available in the hospital), California Childrens Services (CCS), etc.

In other words...we are.

It's a real eye-opener.

[Regulator]

on Halloween night, pickup truck loads, from there and the surrounding area, of them were going door to door trick or treating

How disgusting.

[HiJinx]

I guess we're lucky...the first person you see when you come into our hospital does't speak a word of Spanish. She flunked out of HS Spanish at Apollo HS in Phoenix.

She's bull-headed enough to make the patients speak English to get what they want. And you know what? 99% of them do. It isn't necessarily that they can't speak it. They won't.

[Regulator]

It isn't necessarily that they can't speak it. They won't.

Ya know, that is true. A couple sat near us for weeks speaking only in Spanish (in an ICU). Then one day the nurse came up and asked for something in English. The guy -- who I had never heard say anything except in Spanish -- answered her back in relatively colloquial English.

It's part of their own nationalism, the nationalism that is now assumed to be criminal behavior for us to show. I have had Mexican guys tell me "in 10 years, you'll be speaking Spanish". They truly intend to colonize the U.S. both ethnically and culturally. To them it will be a victory over the gringos. And every day they Con someone into speaking their language is a day when they have another little victory.

Good for Bull-Headed. Tell her to keep it up and don't take no crap off of those guys.

(sidenote: I took Spanish in HS in Tucson. Didn't flunk, but didn't learn all that much either. 35 years ago, it didn't seem particularly important to know the language, since there wasn't a single sign in Tucson in Spanish).

[HiJinx]

35 years...how much has changed!

We're a shade younger, having graduated in '72 and '73.

People who accuse us of racism are so ignorant...for crying out loud, the Mexican settlers who were here before us and those who came in with us, for 300 years - up until about 1988 - are good people.

Other than being here illegally, many of the Mexicans that have come in in the last 20 years are good people. The problem is, way too many of them are low-class thieves and criminals who aren't worth the sweat off the brow of their forebears.

/rant!

[Regulator]

The problem is, way too many of them

That's the real problem!

[FITZ]

He said the fact that immigration has not slowed significantly since 2000, even though unemployment has increased significantly,

Government social spending --- welfare, Medicaid, WIC, free housing, etc will show HOW so many immigrants can easily survive here when the jobs are leaving the country and why millions of indigent, uneducated immigrants are coming over the border. Jobs only attract the relatively few who are only here to work ---- it's the government handouts bringing in the majority.

[JustPiper]

with more than 2.3 million new immigrant workers arriving in the United States since 2000 — half of them illegally

[FITZ]

And we didn't add that many farm-worker jobs --- farms are shrinking. Nor factory jobs or other low-skilled jobs ---- government welfare program spending is sky high though.