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Howard Dean's Northern condescension is showing
Tallahassee ^ | 11/6/03 | Kathleen Parker

Posted on 11/06/2003 2:27:02 PM PST by Tumbleweed_Connection

As stereotypes go, few ignite the emotions as reliably as the Southern Pickup Truck With Confederate Flag. Just ask Dr. Howard Dean.

The Democrat front-runner opened ye unholy can of worms recently when he told an Iowa newspaper that he wanted "to be the candidate for guys with Confederate flags in their pickup trucks." Dean made the remark by way of explaining his opposition to some gun-control legislation and as part of his Southern strategy of inclusiveness.

As in: "We can't beat George Bush unless we appeal to a broad cross section of Democrats," he explained to the Des Moines Register.

And, "White folks in the South who drive pickups with Confederate flag decals on the back ought to be voting with us and not them because their kids don't have health insurance, and their kids need better schools, too," he said at a Democratic National Committee meeting in February.

In the wake of Dean's most recent remarks, a veritable maelstrom of Bubba-ness has ensued. You'd have thought Dean had invoked Satan by the reaction of the other Democratic candidates, who began jockeying for Most Virtuous and made literal the politics of bumper sticker slogans.

John Kerry accused Dean of being "craven," and pandering to the National Rifle Association.

"I'd rather be the candidate of the NAACP than the NRA, who understands that the Confederate flag belongs in museums."

Richard Gephardt issued a statement saying he'd rather "be the candidate for the guys with American flags in their pickup trucks."

Oh, yeah? Well, the Rev. Al Sharpton said he'd rather confront people who "wave the Confederate flag," not embrace them.

Sen. Joseph Lieberman's spokesman said Dean's remark was "irresponsible and reckless." John Edwards, a North Carolinian, said that "to assume that Southerners who drive trucks would embrace this symbol is offensive."

And George Bush, who drives a pickup truck, said: "Who?"

This amusing display of Bubba one-upmanship proves only one thing: When it comes to yahoo-ism, nobody can accuse the South of hogging the market. Southern boys who drive pickup trucks - with or without flag decals - are wondering what these guys are talking about, if they're wondering at all.

Living in rural South Carolina, I'm surrounded by pickup trucks and, I reckon, good ol' boys. Yeah, sure nuf, we get together every sundown at the corner Esso to shuck corn, swat flies, chaw tobacco and flirt with our cousins while swapping tall tales about Gen. Sherman's mysterious overnight with Miss Liza's great-grandmama and how her house miraculously survived the Yankee fires. Wee-dawgies.

But I'll be gall-durned if I can remember the last time I saw a Confederate flag - on a truck or off it, as we say in the sticks. Rednecks, short for Dean's "White folks in the South who drive pickups with Confederate flag decals," are not indigenous to the South, as any visitor to rural Vermont or Massachusetts knows.

We've still got a few Confederate reminders around, and you can find a flag if you hunt for one. But the South is so inundated with out-of-state license plates and accents, it seems weirdly out of tune to discuss the region's demographics in terms of pickup trucks and battle flags.

The whole episode smacks of classism if not racism: Northern Nobility embraces Southern Idiocracy. How long before one of them says: "Why some of my best friends are Southerners"?

I don't have much use for the Confederate flag and wrote three columns urging that the flag be removed from the South Carolina statehouse dome. It seemed inappropriate to fly such a divisive symbol over a public property.

But the Confederate flag is tricky among Southerners - a volatile issue, the nuances of which are often lost on Northerners and other visitors to the kudzu states. Not everyone with the battle flag in his home or on his truck is a dangerous racist, though some are. Plenty of sticker-free Trans-Am drivers in New York are, too, not that I have anything against Trans-Ams.

For many others - well-educated, prosperous, thoughtful Southerners, as opposed to the undereducated, uninsured, vacant-staring Walker Evans sharecroppers Dean apparently envisions - the Confederate flag is a symbol of Southern history, of battles fought and lost, of family members valiant and dead, of a person's right to express himself even if it offends others.

Gephardt, Dean, Lieberman and Kerry probably needn't waste too much time trying to court the Southern pickup crowd. Most I've seen - with American or Confederate flags on them - also have another sticker on their bumpers. It's red, white and blue and says: Bush.



TOPICS: Editorial; Front Page News; Politics/Elections; US: North Carolina; US: South Carolina
KEYWORDS: 2004; condescendingliberal; confederateflag; dean; dixie; hdean; howarddean; kathleenparker; yankee
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To: Tumbleweed_Connection
The dems are going to get there asses kicked in 04. No one, or very few, think they can protect our country. In this environment, security is number 1. I think the senate will be close to 60 republicians. The only ones that think anything will be close is the liberial media. It will be shock and awe for the dems.
21 posted on 11/06/2003 4:53:30 PM PST by bulldogs
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To: Brett66
If America wanted an angry nut in the White House, John McCain would have won in 2000. Take a lesson, Howie...
22 posted on 11/06/2003 4:58:45 PM PST by Skip Ripley
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To: Joe 6-pack
Grizzard's comments. I googled Grizzard and the flag and found an article he wrote about a Georgia v. Ole Miss football game. Ole Miss fans all had flags and the band played Dixie repeatedly. From the article:

The football team (Ole Miss) was filled with blacks, two members of the mini-band were black and there was a black family standing outside their van, eating chicken and taking an active part of the post-game celebration. I'm no sociologist, but does it say anything that everybody in that scenario seemed to be getting along nicely?

Maybe Mississippians, both black and white, have it figured out. The key to any sort of co-existence is tolerance, even of symbols that once stood for hate.

23 posted on 11/06/2003 4:59:45 PM PST by DeFault User
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To: DeFault User

Jake Halpern grew up in Buffalo, New York and attended Yale University. He has written for The New Republic, The New Yorker, Commonwealth and The Jerusalem Report. His newly published first book is called Braving Home: Dispatches from the Underwater Town, the Lava Side Inn, and Extreme Locales. Jake Halpern currently lives in Cambridge, Massachusetts.

24 posted on 11/06/2003 5:04:38 PM PST by kcvl
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To: mgist
did anyone see the dixie chicks at CMA last night? did they perform or present? i know they did not win!!
25 posted on 11/06/2003 5:09:24 PM PST by q_an_a
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To: kcvl
did you notice how in the pciture the folks in boston are all cool and slim while the folks in the heartland are big fat mena and women? what a bunch of crap.
26 posted on 11/06/2003 5:12:44 PM PST by q_an_a
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To: kcvl
Note the picture. The "enlightened" Bostonians are trim, fit, and oh, so tolerant by holding hands. If the picture could but speak, we'd surely hear the couple singing Kum By Yah (sp?).

Now look in the distance. The rest of us are fat, even obese. We're gluttonous and lazy. We *smoke*. We're evil and represent all the negative aspects of society. No, these Bostonians aren't arrogant, never.

/sarcasm
27 posted on 11/06/2003 5:14:47 PM PST by Windcatcher
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To: smith288
ROFL! Great pix.

You KNOW Dean is desperate now when he condescends to appear on Fox & Friends like he did this morning! Trying to be the chicken in every pot, are ya, Howie?

28 posted on 11/06/2003 5:16:16 PM PST by arasina (* VIAGRA * uh oh...SPAM in my tag line???)
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To: Joe 6-pack
The woman laughed and said, "You Southerners really crack me up. You have a language all your own."

Yeah, we do. If you don't like it, go back home and stick your head in a snow bank.

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But know this: I'm a white man and a Southerner. And I'm sick of being told what is wrong with me from outside critics, and I'm tired of being stereotyped as a refugee from God's Little Acre.

If I've said it once, I've said it a thousand times, and I'll probably have to say it a thousand times again: Delta may be hurting financially, but it's still ready to take you back to Toledo whenever you're ready to go.

Lewis Grizzard, "Delta's Ready When You Are, Toledo-Guy", June 1993, The Last Bus to Albuquerque, p.162-164.

29 posted on 11/06/2003 5:34:02 PM PST by Mark Turbo (Safety: The official state religion.)
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To: Mark Turbo
What self-respecting Southerner would vote for that Yankee fool, Dean? They have plenty of homegrown politicians to insult their intelligence.
30 posted on 11/06/2003 7:02:48 PM PST by claudiustg (Go Sharon! Go Israel!)
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To: Tumbleweed_Connection
You've got to love this hyperinflated, egocentric doofus! He is the poster boy for Eastern Ivy elitism! If he wasn't so pathetically funny, I'd like to go "up side his head" a few times...not really to to hurt him or anything rural like that...just to see what kind of bongo tonality I could get out of freestylin' on his bean. It's going to be quite hysterical to observe his antics during this election cycle. We can only hope his fellow travelers will join in. Rev. Al showed promise by jumping up in his grill at the last debate. City slicker frat boys are too much fun, don't you think?
31 posted on 11/06/2003 7:16:01 PM PST by CharlesThe Hammer (Is that the sound of the invisible hand clapping?)
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To: Tumbleweed_Connection
GO DEAN! GO DEAN!! GO DEAN!! GO TO CHINA DEAN!!
32 posted on 11/06/2003 7:51:10 PM PST by sarge4
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To: Windcatcher

"I Want a Fat Babe" - The Snacktreat Boys
33 posted on 11/06/2003 10:31:14 PM PST by mvpel (Michael Pelletier)
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To: Tumbleweed_Connection
Living in rural South Carolina, I'm surrounded by pickup trucks and, I reckon, good ol' boys.....But I'll be gall-durned if I can remember the last time I saw a Confederate flag - on a truck or off it, as we say in the sticks.

I live in South Carolina and every since the flag flap in Columbia there are thousands of bumper stickers and window decals that have popped up with the Confederate flag on them and the words 'Heritage not Hate'. Even my wife has one on her pickup.

To stereotype southerners as Bubbas driving pickup trucks with Confederate flags is a lie, but so is denying that there is some basis for this stereotype.

34 posted on 11/07/2003 7:41:32 AM PST by Between the Lines ("What Goes Into the Mind Comes Out in a Life")
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To: Endeavor
I think you have to be a paid subscriber to Boston Magazine and I'll never give them another nickle,the jerks.

They have a very small picture on their web site of the one that was in the magazine but the devil is in the details and can't be seen in the small pic.

They show,in the magazine picture, two slim,young people holding white wine in one hand,looking at the Boston Mag's idea of everyone else. All the others are very fat,smoking cigs,packing a piece, drinking beer,eating from McDonalds bags and shopping at Walmart.There are also a few tractors and cows in the background.

That gives you an idea of what Boston Magazine thinks of the rest of the country.It makes me embarassed to say that I was born in Boston and have always lived in Metro Boston.
35 posted on 11/07/2003 10:49:46 AM PST by Mears
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To: .cnI redruM
See post # 35--I posted that before I saw your question.

Mears
36 posted on 11/07/2003 10:56:07 AM PST by Mears
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To: .cnI redruM; Endeavor
More info--

They ask"Are Bostonians actually better than other Americans?Here's the breakdown".

1. We're smarter.

2. They own guns and shop at Walmart.

3. We're younger and single or living together.

4. We're healthier;They're fatter and smoke more.

5. We make more money.

6. They're more Republican.


Of course there is an article to go along with these "facts",but you get the picture.
37 posted on 11/07/2003 11:05:54 AM PST by Mears
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To: Mears
What a bunch of condescending s----.
38 posted on 11/07/2003 11:09:32 AM PST by .cnI redruM (Mouthing support for the workingman is one of the best ways to avoid actually being one.)
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To: Mears
So let me get this straight, these are the same people who can't seem to finish a tunnel on time and on budget; whose gun control isn't working (the Boston bus shooting this week); whose airport security is so poor that two of the four hijacked planes initiated from there; and we're supposed to believe these are superior beings? Ha! If I DID believe that, then I WOULD be as dumb as they claim I am!
39 posted on 11/07/2003 1:31:41 PM PST by Endeavor
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To: Endeavor
You forgot the Boston public schools!!!!!!!!
40 posted on 11/07/2003 1:39:49 PM PST by Mears
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