Sean Hannity has a scoop on dem party corruption (Vanity)

Sean Hannity radio show ^ | 11/04/03 | Unknown Democrat (via Sean Hannity)

[jocon307]

Is anyone listening to Hannity? He just read a memo from a dem party staffer (i think) on the select committe on intelligence (or some such), which, as he describes it, shows the the dem committe members are pre-planning a political assault on the pres. and care nothing for our security, which is their job.

He's acting like this is the hottest scoop since I don't know what, I'm at work so I'm only 1/2 listening, plus he read the whole thing which seemed to be a least 2 pages long, a little tough to follow being in beaurocrat-speak.

Is this really important? And will this story grow legs?

[Pukin Dog]

You are right.

The only thing tonight that we can be sure of, is that Republican Senators are on the phones. You can bet that Karl Rove and other strategists are in on those calls too. There will be a response. However, we may never know about it.

Roberts and others have to be careful not to fall into a trap here. They could actually do the Democrats work, by bringing attention to the issue themselves. If I had to guess, I would think that Republicans will use the memo to prove that there is no need for an Independent Counsel, because the Democrats have already decided not to believe the results of any investigation anyway.

We may not get a pound of flesh, but the Democrats wont get what they want either, which means that we win.

[Mo1]

I can't believe that namby-pamby Rockefeller wrote it, but who knows?

IMO .. it was a group effort and he just dictated the notes from the meeting for his secretary/staff to type up

I'll go google and see about the declassifying thing

[sarasmom]

LOL!
I self-deleted 90% of what I wanted to post!
I do not have the same political freedoms the Senate has, regarding intelligence operations,methods and sources.
Last I heard, I cant write a book, untill ten years after my physical death, without prior written DOD editorial permission.
And I know nothing!

[CGVet58]

yes, it can grow legs - here's the orig fm here, and fm newsmax:

Dem Intel Committee Memo Reveals Anti-Bush Plot
NewsMax ^ | 11/4/03 | Limbacher


Posted on 11/04/2003 4:56 PM EST by Tumbleweed_Connection
Edited on 11/04/2003 5:47 PM EST by Admin Moderator. [history]


A memo circulated among Democrats on the Senate Select Committee on Intelligence shows the committee's minority plotting to use classified information against the White House in next year's presidential campaign.

The document, obtained and disclosed by nationally syndicated radio host Sean Hannity Tuesday afternoon, suggests that the top priority among senior Democrats entrusted with guarding the nation's security is instead driving the Bush administration from power based on claims it exaggerated intelligence on the threat posed by Iraq.

The memo as reported by Hannity reads as follows:

"We have carefully reviewed our options under the rules and believe we have identified the best approach. Our plan is as follows:

"1) Pull the majority along as far as we can on issues that may lead to major new disclosures regarding improper or questionable conduct by administration officials. We are having some success in that regard.

"For example, in addition to the President's State of the Union speech, the chairman [Sen. Pat Roberts] has agreed to look at the activities of the office of the Secretary of Defense, Rumsfeld, Wolfowitz, as well as Secretary Bolton's office at the State Department.

"The fact that the chairman supports our investigations into these offices and cosigns our requests for information is helpful and potentially crucial. We don't know what we will find but our prospects for getting the access we seek is far greater when we have the backing of the majority. [We can verbally mention some of the intriguing leads we are pursuing.]

"2) Assiduously prepare Democratic 'additional views' to attach to any interim or final reports the committee may release. Committee rules provide this opportunity and we intend to take full advantage of it.

"In that regard we may have already compiled all the public statements on Iraq made by senior administration officials. We will identify the most exaggerated claims. We will contrast them with the intelligence estimates that have since been declassified. Our additional views will also, among other things, castigate the majority for seeking to limit the scope of the inquiry.

"The Democrats will then be in a strong position to reopen the question of establishing an Independent Commission [i.e., the Corzine Amendment.]

"3) Prepare to launch an independent investigation when it becomes clear we have exhausted the opportunity to usefully collaborate with the majority. We can pull the trigger on an independent investigation of the administration's use of intelligence at any time. But we can only do so once.

"The best time to do so will probably be next year, either:

"A) After we have already released our additional views on an interim report, thereby providing as many as three opportunities to make our case to the public. Additional views on the interim report (1). The announcement of our independent investigation (2). And (3) additional views on the final investigation. Or:

"B) Once we identify solid leads the majority does not want to pursue, we would attract more coverage and have greater credibility in that context than one in which we simply launch an independent investigation based on principled but vague notions regarding the use of intelligence.

"In the meantime, even without a specifically authorized independent investigation, we continue to act independently when we encounter footdragging on the part of the majority. For example, the FBI Niger investigation was done solely at the request of the vice chairman. We have independently submitted written requests to the DOD and we are preparing further independent requests for information.

"SUMMARY: Intelligence issues are clearly secondary to the public's concern regarding the insurgency in Iraq. Yet we have an important role to play in revealing the misleading, if not flagrantly dishonest, methods and motives of senior administration officials who made the case for unilateral preemptive war.

"The approach outlined above seems to offer the best prospect for exposing the administration's dubious motives." [End of Memo Excerpt.]

The revelation that Democrats are using the intelligence committee to conduct opposition research for the coming presidential campaign demands an investigation by the Senate Ethics Committee, Hannity said.

[TaxRelief]

Roberts is a wimp.

Actually, Roberts is their patsy. Hmm..

"Patsy" Roberts?

I feel a ballad coming on...

[RightOnline]

Haven't read this whole, lengthy thread.....so this has probably already been mentioned......but Britt Hume had a field day with this. Of course, Jay Rockefeller's office quicly contacted FNC and claimed this was just a "draft done by a staffer" and hadn't been handed out to any members of Congress, etc. Yeah, right.

Good on FNC for showing the Dems for exactly what they are: a bunch of petty, treasonous power hungry pissants who'd sell their country and their souls to be able to grab and redistribute more of YOUR money. It really is that simple. That is ALL they stand for. God forgive me for how much I despise the Democratic Party.

[Mo1]

Roberts and others have to be careful not to fall into a trap here. They could actually do the Democrats work, by bringing attention to the issue themselves. If I had to guess, I would think that Republicans will use the memo to prove that there is no need for an Independent Counsel, because the Democrats have already decided not to believe the results of any investigation anyway.

You are right also .. they do need to be careful and you make good poins about no need for the IC

However, I still want an ethics investigation

[Mo1]

Here's the List of emails again

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Today is the day peace creeps are supposed to jam the Washington phones. That's why you can't get through.

I put all of the senate emails in one column so you can cut and paste them into your email program. Some don't have published email.

senator@akaka.senate.gov
senator@bennett.senate.gov
senator@biden.senate.gov
senator_bingaman@bingaman.senate.gov
kit_bond@bond.senate.gov
senator@breaux.senate.gov
jim_bunning@bunning.senate.gov
senator_byrd@byrd.senate.gov
senator@cochran.senate.gov
senator@collins.senate.gov
senator@conrad.senate.gov
senator_domenici@domenici.senate.gov
senator@dorgan.senate.gov
dick@durbin.senate.gov
senator@enzi.senate.gov
russell_feingold@feingold.senate.gov
bob_graham@graham.senate.gov
mailbox@gregg.senate.gov
chuck_hagel@hagel.senate.gov
tom_harkin@harkin.senate.gov
vermont@jeffords.senate.gov
tim@johnson.senate.gov
senator@kennedy.senate.gov
john_kerry@kerry.senate.gov
senator_kohl@kohl.senate.gov
senator_leahy@leahy.senate.gov
senator@levin.senate.gov
senatorlott@lott.senate.gov
senator_lugar@lugar.senate.gov
john_mccain@mccain.senate.gov
senator@mcconnell.senate.gov
senator_murray@murray.senate.gov
senator@nickles.senate.gov
jack@reed.senate.gov
senator@rockefeller.senate.gov
senator@sessions.senate.gov
senator@shelby.senate.gov
olympia@snowe.senate.gov
arlen_specter@specter.senate.gov
senator@stabenow.senate.gov
mailbox@sununu.senate.gov
senator_voinovich@voinovich.senate.gov
senator@warner.senate.gov


160 posted on 02/26/2003 10:56 AM EST by Poser

[Gunrunner2]

Regarding that supposed bulldozer thing. . .it was demonstrated to be wildly inaccurate if not a complete falsehood. Even the leftwing sites have backed away from this "report."

No interviewing of the US side, no independent followup or analysis by any other reporting organization or NGO (you KNWO they would luv to catch the US doing such a thing), and to allege the bulldozer would be driven by a young enlistee while he listens to "jazz," well, that is nonsense (Rap maybe, Hip-Hop, perhaps, maybe C&W, but Jazz? Come on. . .)

[MeekOneGOP]

bttt for manana ! Thanks ...

[alnick]

Mara LIARsen is saying this is "pretty standard stuff".

I'll bet that's not what she said when the 'rats accused Bush of doing similar things WITHOUT any hard evidence(selectively using intelligence info to make a particular case). Then it was "Bush lied to the American people!!!"

[SuziQ]

That's probably why the White House is hesitant to send this committee too much information. They never know WHEN it will be leaked by the Dems. You notice I didn't say 'IF'!

[FloridaBoy]

Thanks for the post. I have already written two of them. If they get enough of a respose, such as overwhelming MAYBE something will be done with Rockafellow. Or we can hope.

[potlatch]

Lol, I keep 'fearing' those girls might stand up a little higher!!

[TaxRelief]

You look like a leftist, and you smell like a Dem. Are you sure there is a conservative under your mask, or is it just wishful thinking?

[prairiebreeze]

I think God understands. :^)

Prairie

[fightu4it]

Autoresponder:

You perked up my day! I went to your home page and played the Clinton_confessions wave file. I almost peed my pants! Thanks a million pal.

[Mo1]

http://intelligence.senate.gov/juris.htm

JURISDICTION
Created pursuant to S.Res. 400, 94th Congress: to oversee and make continuing studies of the intelligence activities and programs of the United States Government, and to submit to the Senate appropriate proposals for legislation and report to the Senate concerning such intelligence activities and programs. In carrying out this purpose, the Select Committee on Intelligence shall make every effort to assure that the appropriate departments and agencies of the United States provide informed and timely intelligence necessary for the executive and legislative branches to make sound decisions affecting the security and vital interests of the Nation. It is further the purpose of this resolution to provide vigilant legislative oversight over the intelligence activities of the United States to assure that such activities are in conformity with the Constitution and laws of the United States

[prairiebreeze]

OK, I've emailed all the Pubbies in the intel committee, along with Frist. Told them I "expected" them as elected officials, to not let this matter drop.

I don't know that I have the stomach to send off a missive to Durbin, my senate critter. May wait on that to see what becomes of this story in the media tomorrow.

Prairie

[alnick]

If that were true, Rockefeller would not be denying it.