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Drudge: It's The Beginning Of A Second Media Century
drudgereport.com ^ | November 4, 2003 | Matt Drudge

Posted on 11/04/2003 10:11:45 AM PST by lainie

MSNBC, SCARBOROUGH COUNTRY

JOE SCARBOROUGH: Welcome back to the show. I'm Joe Scarborough. A news flash: Matt Drudge in the "Drudge Report" is reporting tonight that CBS is going to be pulling "The Reagans." They will yank it, not show it and are going to be giving it to Showtime to show. With us right now, the man who broke the story, just like all the other stories that he's broken over the past five, six, seven years. We've got Matt Drudge of the "Drudge Report" on the line.

Matt, you have done it again. What do you know about this story on "The Reagans"?

MATT DRUDGE, "DRUDGE REPORT": They've replaced it with a story on the Bushes. Author Kitty Kelly has sold it to CBS. No, just kidding. A tremendous night. It's the beginning of a second media century, Joe, where it's much more of a people-driven media. And I say that not lightly. It was the Internet, it was talk radio, it was cable that put pressure on CBS, and heretofore, there's never been this kind of pressure applied to one of the big titans, one of the big three. And the pressure went all the way to the top of a super company called Viacom, and the chairman earlier today is my information said, "Listen, let's just get it on cable. Let's do it on Showtime. Let's show it uncut. Everybody will watch." So the word is that CBS will pass on it. It will not air on free television, but the full glory of "The Reagans" will air on Showtime.

SCARBOROUGH: Matt Drudge, you have driven this story for weeks. You, of course, were the one that got the script, the "I am the antichrist" quote from the script, Streisand drawing a distance from "The Reagans." It's remarkable the inside information that you have had. Why have you been driving the story so much? Why do you think this is such an important story right now?

DRUDGE: It is because to me, it was a defining moment when a script became available. The "New York Times," in all fairness, was the first one to go out ahead of it. Now, over the summer, I warned my radio audience over the Premier Radio Networks, "Watch out. This is coming. It's nasty, it's vicious. They're filming it now." They wouldn't even film this in the United States. That's how hot this thing was. They had to go up to Canada. Or maybe it was the cost cutting for production value. But to me, it was such a clear misrepresentation of reality that you've got to be careful, especially with a man suffering from severe Alzheimer's who's not able to defend himself.

Joe, I challenged Moonves to say: "Why don't you put Nancy Reagan on the air? Why don't you let her say this is trash, and this is hurtful, and her husband can't defend himself? And they wouldn't do it. So to have them in retreat, again, is a great win for a new media of all stripes.

SCARBOROUGH: Well, you know, it's interesting, you were talking about warning your radio audience, and I, you know, I listened to it that Sunday night and every Sunday night afterwards, and we were flooded with e-mails once you started breaking the news. Merv Griffin told us about it, said it was coming. But yet you touched on something, I think, that's even bigger than the story tonight. And that is that this is the new media striking back at Viacom, a multinational media conglomeration, and your reports, talk radio, alternative media, forcing Viacom to back down. That's in a sense even bigger than the impeachment story that you started breaking in 1998, isn't it?

DRUDGE: I don't know. I'll leave that to others to decide. But again, this goes straight to the heart of an issue that who owns the air waves and, if people have a right to criticize, to talk about things while they're in production is a whole new way of thinking. It used to be you would consume the product, and then you would get outraged, and you wouldn't have an outlet. And your previous guest, Bernie Goldberg, demonstrated that so well in his two new book -- in his new book and his previous book, that there was nowhere else to go. You had to deal with it. But we are living in a new media environment where people can send e-mails. There are a lot of different ways now to communicate. And again, this is a clear example where people rose up, because it was hurtful and vicious on a beloved American character. Now, Tom Shales of the "Washington Post" thought this was too soon and tacky. Liz Smith, the great liberal gossip columnist in the spirit of Winchell and Hedda said this is tacky and not good. So even the left was uncomfortable. It was only the ardent ones -- the Streisands -- who were digging in and saying this must air!

SCARBOROUGH: What's been your response from your Sunday night audience and Drudge radio? What's been the response to all those -- the millions who come to the "Drudge Report" every day, to your breaking stories on "The Reagans"? Have you been overwhelmed with the anti-CBS response you've gotten since you started driving this story?

DRUDGE: It is mixed. We are -- there are many people in this country, rightfully so, who are not pro boycott and who are uncomfortable with censorship. And to their solace, it is going to air uncut in Showtime, and they wouldn't have seen it uncut on CBS, as "Newsweek" reported. They'd already taken a machete to it. The AIDS line had been cut. Moonves was ordering more cuts as late as this weekend, the CBS chairman. So they will see it in its full glory, so to say that it will never air is wrong and false. But for it to air on a beloved CBS, which just celebrated its 75th anniversary last night in the spirit of "Lucy" and Jackie Gleason, and all the great quality of CBS, this just didn't fit. And this is not what they ordered. They ordered a love story, and it ended up just being a political hit job. Again, quoting Reagan in one bizarre scene, "I am the anti-Christ." I mean, David Geffen could not have scripted this one better.

SCARBOROUGH: I tell you, when you posted that last week, "I am the anti-Christ," I think that may have been the turning point in this entire debate. And I saw the CBS 75th anniversary last night, a remarkable show about a remarkable network with a very proud history. And you're right, it doesn't fit. Got to ask you one final question, Matt. How do you do it? How do you have the sources that you have at "Newsweek," at CBS, at the "New York Times"? How do you break these stories week in and week out?

DRUDGE: It's an army of concerned citizens who are frustrated that main press will not print and go with things. Back in the Lewinsky era last century, or the Kathleen Willeys, or the Brodericks, and it's just an endless series of spiked, suppressed stories. And this was a script that was too hot. And, you know, CBS kept its fingers crossed that no one would expose the details, and it would air and divide a country, which, you know, it didn't get to that point. And I'll just say this, Joe, the notion that Streisand was so intimately involved in this, I think, will be a future story and a defeat on leftest politics disguised as art, because when you start talking about a beloved American president -- and if they went and did a Clinton story, there would be just as much outrage, but I think we're safe to say Les Moonves is not ordering the Clinton saga in any version at this hour.

SCARBOROUGH: All right, thank you so much, Matt Drudge. We are going to have a lot more on this tomorrow night. We certainly hope you'll come back and tell us more. It is a remarkable story, a remarkable media story about what the alternative media can do. Thank you so much, Matt Drudge.

SCARBOROUGH: The "Drudge Report" is reporting tonight that "The Reagans," the mini-series, has been pulled. And as I asked Matt Drudge before, I personally think this is going to be a bigger media story than even Matt Drudge breaking impeachment back in 1998.

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TOPICS: Front Page News; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: drudge; reagan; talkradio; thereagans
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To: lainie
Possibly Carville.
41 posted on 11/04/2003 11:48:23 AM PST by ConservativeMan55 (The left always "feels your pain" unless of course they caused it.)
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To: Robert357
CBS's senior vice president of movies and miniseries, Bela Bajaria, is being blamed internally at the network for the growing backlash against the project, CBS sources said this weekend.

"Look, it was going to be about the Reagans and their family," a senior network source said. "A love story! We lost control of it... it transformed. Politics was seasoned in. What was delivered is not what was pitched to me or anyone else here, that I am aware of."

Bajaria told the LOS ANGELES TIMES last summer that in REAGANS she wanted to tell "an amazing love story that spans four decades."

"We don't expect this to be controversial," she explained.

http://www.drudgereport.com/rr6.htm

42 posted on 11/04/2003 11:49:35 AM PST by lainie
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To: Weimdog
I don't think so. Bloggers only imagine they have influence because they influence each other. If you asked the average politically aware conservative if he's heard of Glenn Reynolds or Mickey Kaus, he'd give you a long, blank stare.
43 posted on 11/04/2003 11:52:15 AM PST by GulliverSwift (Leftist protesters undermine their own cause. Please encourage them!)
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To: lainie
It was talk radio and Drudge that did it. FR played some role, albeit one of organizing people to tell the uninformed.

Drudge and talk radio are universal media. Almost all Internet sites are not by virtue of their very limited audience sizes.
44 posted on 11/04/2003 11:55:17 AM PST by GulliverSwift (Leftist protesters undermine their own cause. Please encourage them!)
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To: GulliverSwift; Weimdog; Uncle Hal
I tend to agree with GulliverSwift, but mostly because I personally can't slog, through the blogs, the endless blogs.

I've heard of Glenn Reynolds and Mickey Kaus and Andrew Sullivan, and I'll be interested if someone brings a brilliant revelation to my attention, but I'm can't sift through the musings of anyone's daily thoughts. I don't even read my favorite columnists anymore due to time constraints. Are the liberal bloggers influenced by the conservative ones? That might be an inroad that no other entity but a famous blogger could make.

I've come to consider these Internet forums (like FR) to be slow-motion blogs. Actually, any quick trip through old Usenet postings reveals that the entire Internet is one big blog.

45 posted on 11/04/2003 11:59:47 AM PST by lainie
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To: GulliverSwift
Bloggers only imagine they have influence because they influence each other.

I read an article about this recently -- wish I could share it with you -- but let me try to restate what it said about bloggers:

You are right when you say that bloggers imagine more influence than they have -- on an individual basis. But what is missing is the whole lot of them together. It is sort of a cauldron or kettle of thinking, and, like these discussion threads, the bubbling up of a lot of ideas can show trends in peoples' thinking and many of these ideas trickle up, instead of down, in the media food chain.

Again, I probably botched up trying to explain it, but hope it makes a bit of sense to you.

46 posted on 11/04/2003 12:00:20 PM PST by paulklenk (DEPORT HILLARY!)
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To: GulliverSwift
I've said it before and I'll say it again... Drudge is the one to watch. He's unique in media and a true conservative. He understands what the Internet really is (which is NOT a one-way conduit of marketing. Contrary to what people tried to do with it.)
47 posted on 11/04/2003 12:05:05 PM PST by lainie
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To: paulklenk
Hannity is saying basically the same thing. 'Beyond Matt Drudge, who brought it to our attention, this story belongs to no one talkshow host. This belongs to YOU the people out there.'
48 posted on 11/04/2003 12:15:14 PM PST by lainie
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To: paulklenk
Problem is, though, that there are _no one_ many bloggers out there that no one has time to read them all. Most of their sites are disorganized messes with almost all of the content on one page that is 5 miles long.

So, the diarists may influence the people they happen to direct readers to but that's still questionable since a lot of the bloggers don't even have the ability to look at their server logs to check referrers.

IMHO discussion forums like FR, Lucianne, Fark.com are far more efficient uses of group resources. They are also so much better organized and easier to search.

I have no interest in starting a blog when I have FR here for me. I don't have to worry about paying for it, updating it with useless quota postings. If I want to share my thoughts, I can post a vanity essay. If I just want to put my two bits in, I post on a thread.

Blogs are a waste of time on both the authors' and readers' parts, IMO.
49 posted on 11/04/2003 12:22:47 PM PST by GulliverSwift (Leftist protesters undermine their own cause. Please encourage them!)
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To: lainie
I've heard of Glenn Reynolds and Mickey Kaus and Andrew Sullivan, and I'll be interested if someone brings a brilliant revelation to my attention, but I'm can't sift through the musings of anyone's daily thoughts. I don't even read my favorite columnists anymore due to time constraints. Are the liberal bloggers influenced by the conservative ones? That might be an inroad that no other entity but a famous blogger could make.

I've come to consider these Internet forums (like FR) to be slow-motion blogs. Actually, any quick trip through old Usenet postings reveals that the entire Internet is one big blog.

I find a lot I agree with here. I remember back in the day when I tried to read all of the conservative columnists on Jewish World Review. But by doing so, I learned of other writers, and still more.

After a while, I realized that basically all of them were saying the same 3 or 4 things, just with slightly different styles. I've since lost all use for columnists since most have no original thoughts at all.

As for FR vis-a-vis the blogs, I think that it is they who are behind us. I often see stuff on here first before anywhere else on the Web.

One other plus about FR: live group discussions of events. You can't get that kind of interactivity reading a hodgepodge of stream-of-consciousness diary entries.

50 posted on 11/04/2003 12:27:29 PM PST by GulliverSwift (Leftist protesters undermine their own cause. Please encourage them!)
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To: lainie

Drudge Saves The Day

A lot of folks will taking credit for this victory of turth over slime, but it was matt who got them all going......

I say God Bless him, I wish I could interview him for my TV show, and give him the credit he deserves......

51 posted on 11/04/2003 12:28:13 PM PST by The Wizard (Saddamocrats are enemies of America, treasonous everytime they speak)
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To: lainie
It used to be you would consume the product, and then you would get outraged, and you wouldn't have an outlet.

bump to that

52 posted on 11/04/2003 12:28:47 PM PST by vikingchick
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To: GulliverSwift
Oops: should say:

"Problem is, though, that there are so many bloggers out there that _no one_ has time to read them all. Most of their sites are disorganized messes with almost all of the content on one page that is 5 miles long.
53 posted on 11/04/2003 12:29:00 PM PST by GulliverSwift (Leftist protesters undermine their own cause. Please encourage them!)
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To: veronica
I HOPE you are RIGHT! I am so sick of the LEFT always demonizing the RIGHT, and pretending we don't have intelligence, compassion, culture, wisdom, education, etc. They always make us out to be a bunch of mean idiots who know nothing about the arts. They are wrong, DEAD wrong~
54 posted on 11/04/2003 1:15:48 PM PST by buffyt (Can you say President Hillary? Me Neither!)
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To: lainie; Landru; LS; Common Tator; jla
CBS STATEMENT REGARDING 'THE REAGANS' "CBS will not broadcast THE REAGANS on November 16 and 18. This decision is based solely on our reaction to seeing the final film, not the controversy that erupted around a draft of the script."

BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA...yeah, right...MUD

55 posted on 11/04/2003 1:19:37 PM PST by Mudboy Slim (RE-IMPEACH Osama bil Clinton!!)
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To: GulliverSwift
I agree with every one of your points. (Especially the last two.. having been through the aforementioned fire threads.)

I have to say, though, that some people do latch on to a favorite blogger and really enjoy checking the site on a daily basis. Maybe it's best left to-each-his-own? All I know is it isn't for me.
56 posted on 11/04/2003 1:20:35 PM PST by lainie
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To: Mudboy Slim
It's very amusing isn't it. :)
57 posted on 11/04/2003 1:26:09 PM PST by lainie
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To: vikingchick
Nowadays, you get on the Internet, find others who feel the same way, find addresses and phone numbers at the click of a button, and make your displeasure known. And see results!
58 posted on 11/04/2003 1:26:54 PM PST by lainie
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Statement of RNC Chairman Ed Gillespie on CBS Decision to Move Reagan Series to Showtime
Tue Nov 04 2003 16:12:39 ET

Washington, DC-- "The CBS decision to air 'The Reagans' miniseries on Showtime does not address the central concern over historical accuracy, nor does it correct the fact that the program does not present, in their own words, 'a balanced portrayal of the Reagans.'

The only proper thing to do is to correct the imbalance and have the program reviewed for historical accuracy or inform viewers that it is a fictionalized portrayal and not intended to be historically accurate.

Misleading a smaller audience of viewers is not a noble response to the legitimate concerns raised about this program. I respectfully request Showtime to allow a panel of historians and people who know the Reagans to review the program for accuracy before it airs.

If they are unwilling to correct the imbalance they themselves acknowledge and review the program for historical accuracy, Showtime should inform its viewers through a crawl every ten minutes that the program is a fictional portrayal of the Reagans and the Reagan Presidency, and is not intended to be historically accurate."

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59 posted on 11/04/2003 1:29:32 PM PST by lainie
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To: lainie
It's amusing that they actually go out of their way to spew nonsense that I guess they expect the sheeple to believe...LOL!!

This was a major win for the GoodGuys, imho...MUD

60 posted on 11/04/2003 1:33:21 PM PST by Mudboy Slim (RE-IMPEACH Osama bil Clinton!!)
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