Al Qaeda again threatens New York, Washington and Los Angeles - Daily Terror Threat

Debka ^ | 11-3-2003 | Staff

[tubavil]

Monday, November 3, 2003

A new message was posted in the last few hours by the Jeddah-based al-Qaeda-linked Al-Islah (Reform) society calling on Muslims to flee New York, Washington and Los Angeles in advance of major al Qaeda attacks in those cities. This is revealed by DEBKAfile.

The message accuses the United States of predetermining its end (doom) by its policies. ?The Jews rule the Pentagon by remote control and (are the cause) of Muslims being killed in every corner of the world. The United States should therefore expect more blows.?

The message is signed on behalf of the al Bayan (The Threat) movement by ?your warrior brother, Abul Hassan al Khadrami?.

Our Muslim expert identifies the name of the signatory as belonging to a Yemeni from Hadhrameuth, the Bin Ladens? place of origin where Osama enjoys substantial tribal support.

DEBKAfile?s counter-terror sources stress that warnings appearing on these forums are taken both very seriously and with caution by the intelligence services keeping track of the terrorist network?s electronic traffic.

Last November, Jeddah-based fundamentalist forums addressed a message to an Al Qaeda member, saying whoever understands ? understands; whoever knows, knows, but we are marching towards an operation that will take us to Paradise. Three days later, the Mombasa Paradise hotel was blown up killing 12 Kenyans and 3 Israelis and a failed shoulder-launched Strela anti-air missile missed an Israeli airliner at Mombasa airport.

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[MediaMole]

One local mall has been blanketed with cops in response to a specific threat. I can only assume others are getting similar treatment nationally.

Also, per scanner, CAP is up in the midwest.

[jerseygirl]

Hmmm...Hoover Damn, Niagara Falls- recall all those jihad rantings about "water,water,water"?

[knak]

sounds like they may even know the "when" something might happen?

[steve86]

recall all those jihad rantings about "water,water,water?"

Yes, I do. And I still recall the nighmare I had after gazing at the Niagara Falls photo.

[Nexus]

sounds like they may even know the "when" something might happen?

It sounded like an urgent roundup. The "running against a ticking clock" part gave me a flashback to "The Sum of all Fears". I cannot believe no one else heard this. CNN went to their LA newsroom, and the reporter was the same fellow that covered the earthquake yesterday from the same newsroom. He had sources high up in the LAPD.

[Labyrinthos]

Unnamed sources claim they are "running against a ticking clock". I think they said something like "now the biggest investigation in the history of LA".

Makes me think that DHS knows the when, and a short list of what's, but doesn't know the where or the who. While dragging potential suspects off the street might inadvertently snag the who, more likely the Feds are hoping someone will talk if forced to eat pork in cell full of Hell's Angels.

[Semper Paratus]

Hoover Dam?

Like to know how that's going to happen.
Saw a show on cable called "The Dam Busters" about bombing German dams and how difficult it was. A couple of truck bombs on top of the dam won't do it. They'll have to drop a bomb of MOAB power that would detonate and a precise location and even that may not cut it.

[riri]

I heard they no longer let trucks across it. Is that true?

Yes, that is true. When I went over it in July security was pretty tight.

[riri]

I think when you do the Hoover Dam tour they tell you what it was built to withstand and for the life of me I can't remember anymore.

[oceanview]

you are not coming unglued, your points are valid, but its the conclusion that makes no sense. That is, we are doing all of the things you list, but the easiest way to avoid a WMD laden plane from a foreign country is to shut down US airspace to all foreign flights, or at least those from suspect countries. Divert them all to Canada, or ground them. But you don't see that happening, so what does that tell you? Who would be dumb enough in government to do all these preparatory steps yet not take the simplest one that could stop the event in the first place?

[oceanview]

thats likely the expanded no fly zone around it.

[Cindy]

LINKS OF INTEREST
http://www.truthusa.com/LinksOfInterest.html

SEPTEMBER 11, 2001: ATTACK ON AMERICA
http://www.truthusa.com/911.html

[bonesmccoy]

If these people are looking for the cost to terrorize, the mall has very LOW return on investment. The cost of one of these weapons is extremely high. The target zone is not very rich compared to the economic and strategic impact of a hit on a real resource.

Consumer goods are not a target, despite the wishes of the Simon Mall and Galleria people.

[riri]

Also re: the hoover Dam it helps to remember that the dam in in pretty desolate country. It is inroute to some busy places and you can get a good crowd looking at it and taking pictures but by no way is it an unmanageable situation. I would rather be on the lookout for a terrorist coming over the dam than one coming into New York or Washington, DC.

[Cindy]

ON THE NET --- A LOT OF TALK...

http://www.as-sahwah.com/discus/messages/6/7457.html

http://www.as-sahwah.com/discus/messages/6/5934.htm

http://www.taliyah.org/modules.php?name=Forums&file=viewtopic&t=204&sid=1d11cb5db9f2bee6820c51e834e8283c

http://forum.ymuk.net/showthread.php?s=8a228e6d01eea84d93c62559bf48f1e6&threadid=5958

[oceanview]

what were they waiting for. how many domestic cells have we broken up? 2 or 3? you never hear about any arrests, the idea seemed to be to watch them all and gather intel in the hopes of expanind the net. OK, I can accept that, but at some point you have to bust them before they act. so if that's what is happening, good.

[Cindy]

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1045619/posts

"New Chinese Missile Threatens U.S."
newsmax.com ^ | Dec. 18, 2003 | Charles R. Smith


Posted on 12/23/2003 12:22:56 PM PST by Tailgunner Joe


"New Missile Can Reach American Cities"

ARTICLE SNIPPET: "U.S. intelligence officials are quietly confirming that China has deployed its newest long-range missile. The Chinese army now has up to 12 Dong Feng 31 (East Wind) missiles, which can deliver nuclear warheads against America.

"China now has approximately 36 intercontinental missiles that can hit the United States – 24 older CSS-4 missiles and up to 12 new Dong Feng 31 missiles," said Col. Larry Wortzel, vice president of the Heritage Foundation.

"The Dong Feng 31 missiles can reach Alaska and the western U.S. China has also tested the Dong Feng 31 with multiple warheads," stated Col. Wortzel during a recent Washington conference on missile defense.

The new Dong Feng 31 (DF-31) missiles are attached to the 80304 Unit of the Second Artillery Corps. The 80304 Unit is headquartered in Luoyang, Henan province. Its older CSS-4 missiles can strike targets throughout the United States and Europe.

The new Dong Feng 31 missile can be armed with a single H-bomb with a yield of over 3 million tons of TNT. A single DF-31 missile armed with the huge H-bomb could destroy any major U.S. city including Los Angeles, San Francisco or Seattle.

Recent Chinese tests have shown that the DF-31 can be armed with multiple warheads. The Chinese test-fired a DF-31 armed with three small dummy nuclear warheads. The smaller warheads are based on a stolen U.S. design. Each warhead has the destructive power of 100,000 tons of TNT, or five times the size of the Hiroshima bomb."

[California74]

Geez. I didn't realize this!

http://www.usbr.gov/lc/hooverdam/History/powerfaq.html

How is the firm energy generated at Hoover Dam allocated?
Arizona 18.9527 percent
Nevada 23.3706 percent
Metropolitan Water District of Southern California 28.5393 percent
Burbank, CA 0.5876 percent
Glendale, CA 1.5874 percent
Pasadena, CA 1.3629 percent
Los Angeles, CA 15.4229 percent
Southern California Edison Co. 5.5377 percent
Azusa, CA 0.1104 percent
Anaheim, CA 1.1487 percent
Banning, CA 0.0442 percent
Colton, CA 0.0884 percent
Riverside, CA 0.8615 percent
Vernon, CA 0.6185 percent
Boulder City, NV 1.7672 percent

[debg]

Coast Guard jets in my area have been very active since last weekend.

[Principled]

Egads...