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Southern California Fires Live Thread -- 11/2/2003, Sunday
November 2, 2003 | many

Posted on 11/02/2003 7:04:53 AM PST by First_Salute

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1 posted on 11/02/2003 7:04:54 AM PST by First_Salute
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To: First_Salute
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2 posted on 11/02/2003 7:14:59 AM PST by CathyRyan
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To: CathyRyan; lainie; spectr17; BurbankKarl; nicmarlo; PhiKapMom
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3 posted on 11/02/2003 7:20:17 AM PST by First_Salute (God save our democratic-republican government, from a government by judiciary.)
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To: Tijeras_Slim
How's the family?
4 posted on 11/02/2003 7:27:33 AM PST by First_Salute (God save our democratic-republican government, from a government by judiciary.)
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To: First_Salute
Posted at Rim of the World - Big Bear message board ---

Carrie B. (daughter of Mountains Community Hospital Resident):

DOCTORS - residents of the skilled nursing facility at Mountains Community Hospital who were evacuated early Sunday morning are NOT being properly cared for. I know of at least two patients that had NONE of their medications yesterday. TWO ADDITIONAL PATIENTS of MCH HAVE DIED since the evacuation and at least one of these deaths is rather suspicious, at least based on the information I have at this time. THE MEDICAL RECORDS seem to be missing for the patients and they need to be sent to the various rest homes where these people have been evacuated. As far as I can tell, nobody from Mountains has been to check on these patients. I am extremely disappointed in the way this is being handled, especially since we asked back in JULY what the evacuation plan was in case of fire. Please do the right thing and get those medical records delivered for these people. Obviously, it is a matter of LIFE and DEATH. Thank you.

 

5 posted on 11/02/2003 7:33:16 AM PST by First_Salute (God save our democratic-republican government, from a government by judiciary.)
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To: First_Salute
Finally got in touch with my sister-in-law. Her house in Crest did burn down, but she really bumped up the insurance when she re-financed this summer. She seemed pretty upbeat, had plenty of warning so she saved all the papers, pictures, etc, and has plenty of clothes and the like. Staying with family. Other family members in the area were spared, even though the fires came through their neighborhoods in some cases. All things considered, we were fortunate.

Thanks, Slim

6 posted on 11/02/2003 7:35:43 AM PST by Tijeras_Slim (SSDD - Same S#it Different Democrat)
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To: First_Salute
New Yahoo group (notice posted at Rim of the World - Big Bear) ---
Bev:

For those that feel a need for further community with their friends and acquaintences in the fire areas, there is a chat site set up for you to share at length with each other. Any thing you want to talk about is OK. No one is on the list yet because I wanted to make sure first that Scot and others would realize that it is not intended to take the place of the bulletin boards, but rather to augment them. I think there will be a need for further communication with each other in the days to come of the best way to handle different challenges. If you are interested, the web site to join is:

http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FNAC (Fire News and Communication)

 

7 posted on 11/02/2003 7:36:30 AM PST by First_Salute (God save our democratic-republican government, from a government by judiciary.)
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To: Tijeras_Slim
Glad to hear it; thanks.
8 posted on 11/02/2003 7:37:25 AM PST by First_Salute (God save our democratic-republican government, from a government by judiciary.)
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To: First_Salute
Beginning today, Sunday November 2, 2003 at 8:00 A.M. PST ---

 

Highway 18 will be open from Lucerne Valley to Big Bear FOR RESIDENTS ONLY.
--- Proof of residency will be required ---

Highway 38 will be open to Big Bear FOR RESIDENTS ONLY.

--- Proof of residency will be required ---

Highway 18 is closed at the Big Bear Dam.

Highway 330 is closed to all traffic.

Interstate 15 is now open with no restrictions.

Interstate 215 is now open with no restrictions.

 

Source:

http://www.kbhr933.com/newslocal.html

Additional news ---

The Bear Valley Unified School District is asking that all teachers and staff report for work on Monday November 3. School classes will begin again on Tuesday November 4. You can call the information line for more information.

City of Big Bear Department of Water reported that the firefighters are using large amounts of water in their fire fighting efforts. In light of this they are requesting that all residents use only the water that is essential. Also please make sure that you have turned off all your outdoor irrigation such as your sprinklers and winterize them.

The projected containment date for the “Old” fire is now expected to be November 8th at 6:00 PM. To date the “Old” fire acreage is listed by the USFS as 91,218.

There will be controlled burns of slash piles near 2N93 and 2N27. This area is south of Sugerloaf. This slash pile burn is part of a work that began last summer and is part of the ongoing forest management program. The weather conditions will assist the fire fighters to control this slash removal. Residents are being advised not to be concerned about the smoke from this area but to report any other fire activity they might observe in other parts of the valley.


9 posted on 11/02/2003 7:51:36 AM PST by First_Salute (God save our democratic-republican government, from a government by judiciary.)
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To: First_Salute
At http://www.bigbear.us/southern-california-fire.html (click on "click here for details") ---
The Big Bear Hospital is establishing a temporary Emergency Room in their Emergency Room parking lot utilizing an AMR mobile unit that has 3 patient beds and a small waiting area. In order to have adequate coverage for emergency medical services, AMR is providing additional advance life support units in the area. The Big Bear Hospital will be fully operational by midnight on Sunday.

Currently, utilities and sanitation services are working in these areas. However, it is recommended that all residents take flashlights, portable radios, batteries, and drinking water with them to their houses. No open flame sources for light or heat should be used due to the inherent fire danger associated with these items. Charcoal barbeques are not to be used as a heat source due to the lethal amounts of carbon monoxide that can build up inside a home. Each resident needs to be prepared for winter driving conditions, so have snow chains, blankets, and water inside each vehicle.

When returning to your home, check all utilities for leaks and report them to your utility company. For information regarding the proper disposal of food in your refrigerator/freezer contact San Bernardino County Health at (909) 387-4608.

The area is still experiencing some mild fire activity in the mountain communities. Weather forecasts have change and there are no expected Santa Ana wind conditions for next week.

For those communities still under evacuation there are still a number of unsafe conditions that are being addressed. This includes downed power lines, unsafe roads due to debris and guardrails that are out. Utility companies, Cal Trans, County Roads, and other agencies are working to ensure that these areas are free of any life safety issues. State Highway 18 and State Highway 138 have experienced damage from the fire and crews are working to provide safe access. Remember when returning to your communities to drive at safe speeds and watch for crews repairing the highways.

 

10 posted on 11/02/2003 8:13:23 AM PST by First_Salute (God save our democratic-republican government, from a government by judiciary.)
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To: BurbankKarl
I don't know who else to contact but I'd like to say that if anyone deserves an award it's station KIXW 960AM

Yes, that's the one. Thanks. They coordinated donation sites, evac centers, pet retrieval centers, and every other need that people might have.

Yesterday a caller said a man working tirelessly at an evac center had his car vandalized and windshield broken. Two calls later, a Wrightwood man called and said he would pay the glass company to replace the windshield. Several short calls later, a Hesperia glass company owner called and said thanks, but he'd replace it for free. Ordinary but exceptional people!!

11 posted on 11/02/2003 8:15:17 AM PST by okimhere
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To: First_Salute
The Yahoo chat room where participants could listen to the San Bernardino Mountains area scanners, has been closed.
12 posted on 11/02/2003 8:17:50 AM PST by First_Salute (God save our democratic-republican government, from a government by judiciary.)
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To: First_Salute
High Desert Guidebook
13 posted on 11/02/2003 8:24:04 AM PST by First_Salute (God save our democratic-republican government, from a government by judiciary.)
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To: First_Salute
The CompuCations Big Bear Scanner is Back Online --- but its link that you need, in order to get your media player going, is not, or may not yet be, working reliably.

Enter this:

http://xgen.caliberstreams.com/mcasx.asx?media=4005&package=2207

... in Windows Media Player (URL).

 

The other scanner that has worked reliably, all through these days and nights, is still at Live365 feed, KB6JAG.

You must register and then log on, in order to use it. Then, to receive when many people are connected to it, it kinda helps to pay for a subscription, to become a "preferred" customer.

 

14 posted on 11/02/2003 8:43:57 AM PST by First_Salute (God save our democratic-republican government, from a government by judiciary.)
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To: First_Salute
Bump, Bttt, As a bookmark
15 posted on 11/02/2003 8:59:39 AM PST by Not now, Not ever! (10101100)
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To: First_Salute
SignOnSanDiego.com (San Diego Union-Tribune online) - fire bulletin board(s)
16 posted on 11/02/2003 9:04:47 AM PST by First_Salute (God save our democratic-republican government, from a government by judiciary.)
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To: First_Salute
San Diego area fires - road closures

Current road closures as reported by the California Highway Patrol as of Nov. 1 at 10:30:

These road are closed to all EXCEPT residents with proper id:

SR78 from 79 in Santa Ysabel to Wynola Rd East Of Julian.

SR 76 from South Grade (Mt. Palomar) to SR 79.

Sunrise Highway from Mt Laguna to SR 79 .

SR 79 from Viejas Grade to Santa Ysabel.

source: SignOnSanDiego.com

17 posted on 11/02/2003 9:10:13 AM PST by First_Salute (God save our democratic-republican government, from a government by judiciary.)
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To: First_Salute
Wildfire news in brief - SignOnSanDiego.com - Nov. 2, 2003 --- information:
DEBRIS REMOVAL WARNING

HELP FOR FIRE VICTIMS
- Federal assistance
- Help for county fire victims
- Help for city of San Diego fire victims

COUNTY SERVICES

AMERICAN RED CROSS

MAIL SERVICE

HOTLINES

AVOIDING FIRE-RELATED SCAMS
- The deposit for debris-clearing scam
- The debris-clearing and dump scam
- Rebuilding scam
- Insurance filing assistance scam
- Charity scams

FINDING A RELIABLE CONTRACTOR

IDENTIFYING REPUTABLE BUSINESSES

SCHOOLS

GOVERNMENT

CLEANING UP YOUR HOME

CLEANING UP YOUR CAR

POSTPONED OR CANCELED EVENTS

RELIEF FUNDS

Ramona assistance center

6:15 p.m. Saturday, Nov. 1

Authorities announce plans to open yet another assistance center. At 8 a.m. Sunday, the former post ofice in Ramona will become a site where area residents affected by the wildfires can visit to speak with relief officials. The address is 325 Sixth St.,. Ramona.

 

18 posted on 11/02/2003 9:21:56 AM PST by First_Salute (God save our democratic-republican government, from a government by judiciary.)
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To: First_Salute
thanks for putting it all together!

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19 posted on 11/02/2003 9:26:38 AM PST by lainie
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To: lainie
Yep.
20 posted on 11/02/2003 9:49:49 AM PST by First_Salute (God save our democratic-republican government, from a government by judiciary.)
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