US Helicopter Down in Iraq

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[TexKat]

MSNBC reporting that they are still looking for survivors.

Is anyone else having problems with CNN. Has it been taking off the air?

[livius]

It's certainly time to surround it immediately, go house to house, interrogate everybody, and jail or kill those about whom there is any doubt.

They're getting away with this because they know they can. If one of our officers can't even use threats to get information out of somebody who was caught red-handed trying to attack us, then they know there's no reason to fear us. And the bad guys have to fear us.

[OutSpot]

No problems here. (But then again I am not in the continental US)Could be extremen traffic currently

[elfman2]

" 13 US Soldiers dead....it's time to leave that hell hole...I don't care what Bush says...."

Might as well convert to Islam while you’re at it…

[Truth666]

Witnesses said the second copter hovered over the down craft for some minutes and then set down, apparently to try to help extinguish a fire, but the downed copter was destroyed.
Exposing to enemy fire ?!

[bc04]

I second that... now better than ever

[Jim Noble]

If the dems try to exploit this to weaken our resolve, then they will have proven themselves to be actual enemies of this country

Well, we already know that they are actual enemies of our country.

But...

If you don't think that as week after week turns into month after month in which our undefeated adversaries can impose casualties on our troops will lead, inexorably, to what you call "weakening of our resolve", then you don't understand our people very well.

I support the occupation and reconstruction of Iraq. It is a wise national policy, and it was initated by a courageous President.

However, it is being carried out using false concepts and misguided tactics, with markedly insufficient force.

Executing wise policy in an incompetent and halfhearted fashion leads not only to the failure of the original policy, but (as it should in a representative Republic) to the eventual defeat of its authors.

If you abhor the notion of the enemies of this country becoming its government, then the present architecture of our Iraq policy is the last thing you should be supporting.

[MeekOneGOP]

[TexKat]

OutSpot you forgot the caption under that pic.

Iraqis chanted anti-U.S. slogans when a coalition vehicle exploded in Fallujah Sunday

[mass55th]

"13 US Soldiers dead....it's time to leave that hell hole...I don't care what Bush says...."

Gee, there were 13 G.I.'s killed in Italy when a booby trap placed by fleeing German Soldiers exploded. Should we have taken all our troops out of Europe too?

It's obvious that you have no stomach for war, nor do you have the resolve it takes to get a job done. Imagine where we'd be if General Washington took all his troops home after the winter of hell they spent in Mount Vernon, or all those rag-tag farmers permanently retreated after all the battles they'd lost.

Cut and run is the left's cries. In fact, "never shedding a drop of blood for liberty" is more like it. If you want to give up and run away, you'll be fighting another day, but it will be in your own backyard, not Iraq's. All you show is weakness if you turn away, but it's your choice to feel whichever way you want. Afterall, this is America and I guess it doesn't matter to you how many people died, or the number of sacrifices that were made in order for you to be able to have that point of view.

[Jim Noble]

13 US Soldiers dead....it's time to leave that hell hole...I don't care what Bush says....

It's time to occupy Iraq with sufficient force to put a stop to organized resistance, or to get out.

The Administration has no choice, actually-they can provide the sufficient force, or Hillary Clinton will do the getting out.

Somewhere in the government, the shade of Robert McNamara is whispering, "the casualties are proving to the brave Iraqi people that we are serious about our commitment. Just a little more time, a few search & destroy missions, and much more civilian aid, and it will all come out right".

Idiocy.

Nuke Fallujah today.

Put 100,000 bad guys behind wire in the desert.

Torture captured leaders until they give up Saddam.

Or get the hell out.

Tough choices, but war is not a game.

[R. Scott]

I was not in favor of this war. I sincerely hope we won’t be stuck there for the next 10-20 years, but I won’t push for us to pull out. Once we have started we have to follow through.
If we were to pull out the neighboring Arab States would jump on Iraq and divvy up the spoils – not necessarily a bad thing.
Those Iraqis who have helped us would undoubtedly be rounded up and shot – a very bad thing.
It would also reinforce the idea (from Viet Nam) that causing American casualties will force us out of an area - a very bad thing.

[Jim Noble]

It's obvious that you have no stomach for war, nor do you have the resolve it takes to get a job done

Getting the job done takes more than a willingness to take casualties, Mr. Stomach-for-War.

Getting the job done in Iraq will require much more stomach for war than is so far in evidence from this government.

[Dave Elias]

"Its time to obliterate Fallujah and its inhabitants."

Liberate by extermination, a fine Medieval Jesuit you'd have been, or perhaps an SS Einstaz-Kommando.

[livius]

I agree. We've got to get tougher, because even the moderate Iraqis are beginning to lose confidence in our ability to carry this off.

Obviously, we don't have to do this in areas where we are not having problems. But Fallujah (and Tikrit, where we are now beginning to crack down) have been problems from the start.

[tm22721]

Imagine where we'd be if General Washington took all his troops home after the winter of hell they spent in Mount Vernon

Uh, I think that was Valley Forge.

Mount Vernon was George Washington's Virginia plantation.

BUMP

[bc04]

I couldn't agree more. Somebody knows something... it's time to do something. There are people THERE who can do something about this. It only takes a few of them to make it too easy for the GD libs to take advantage of this. God bless them.

[Non-Sequitur]

It's time to occupy Iraq with sufficient force to put a stop to organized resistance, or to get out.

Two questions:
1. How many troops constitute 'sufficient force'?
2. Where do we get them from?

[Non-Sequitur]

Imagine where we'd be if General Washington took all his troops home after the winter of hell they spent in Mount Vernon...

And where would we be now if we gave up after the Germans bombed Pearl Harbor?

[Michael81Dus]

I was in favour of this war, and I don´t want the US forces to leave now.

If the US bend down today, they not only have lost Iraq, they also will lose the war on terror tomorrow!

Withdrawing the US forces would mean a surrender to terrorism, and surrendering is something I haven´t experienced with American troops! You are not the French!

I seriously hope that the killing will stop, but these guys, who I consider as my comrades, are there for our freedom, and they´re doing a great job. It´s difficult to separate the good and evil Iraqis.

May our Heavenly Father take the 13 brave souls to him, and may their relatives and friends recover from their pain. I´m sure these soldiers did not die in vain.

Michael
Lieutenant 2nd class
German Air Force Reserve