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Bush says God chose him to lead his nation
The Observer (U.K.) ^ | 11/02/03 | Paul Harris

Posted on 11/01/2003 6:34:32 PM PST by Pokey78

Book reveals how President's religious and political beliefs are entwined - and claims he did pray with Blair

President George W. Bush stood before a cheering crowd at a Dallas Christian youth centre last week, and told them about being 'born again' as a Christian.

'If you change their heart, then they change their behaviour. I know,' he said, referring to his own conversion, which led to him giving up drinking.

Behind Bush were two banners. 'King of Kings', proclaimed one. 'Lord of Lords', said the other. The symbolism of how fervent Christianity has become deeply entwined with the most powerful man on the planet could not have been stronger.

Few US Presidents have been as openly religious as Bush. Now a new book has lifted the lid on how deep those Christian convictions run. It will stir up controversy at a time when the administration is keen to portray its 'war on terror' as non-religious.

The book, which depicts a President who prays each day and believes he is on a direct mission from God, will give ammunition to critics who claim Bush's administration is heavily influenced by extremist Christians.

Bush is already under fire for allowing the appointment of General William Boykin to head the hunt for Osama bin Laden. Boykin, who speaks at evangelical Christian meetings, once said the war on terror was a fight against Satan, and also told a Somali warlord that, 'My God was bigger than his. I knew that my God was a real God and his was an idol.'

Bush has also been accused of a 'creeping Christianisation' of federal government programmes. In September, the government made more than $60 billion available for religious charitable groups. Critics say the groups will be able to use the cash to promote their religion. One group that benefited from previous grants was an Iowa prison project that entitled inmates to televisions, private bathrooms and computers - in return for Christian counselling.

Now Bush is likely to face intense scrutiny. The book, The Faith of George W. Bush, was written by Christian author Stephen Mansfield. It details numerous incidents where Bush's faith has been shown to be at the centre of his political thinking.

Among Mansfield's revelations is his insistence that Bush and Tony Blair have prayed together at a private meeting at Camp David. Blair has previously denied this.

Mansfield, however, says that, while there were no witnesses, aides were left in little doubt as to what had happened. He told The Observer: 'There is no question they have shared scripture and prayed together.'

The book also shows that in the lead-up to announcing his candidacy for the presidency, Bush told a Texan evangelist that he had had a premonition of some form of national disaster happening.

Bush said to James Robinson: 'I feel like God wants me to run for President. I can't explain it, but I sense my country is going to need me. Something is going to happen... I know it won't be easy on me or my family, but God wants me to do it.'

In another incident, Mansfield recounts how, on Palm Sunday last year, Bush was flying back from El Salvador aboard the presidential jet Air Force One and seemed to be destined to miss church.

However, knowing that Bush hated to miss a service, some officials suggested they worship in the air. Bush agreed, and soon 40 officials were crammed into the plane's conference room. The service was led by National Security Adviser Condoleezza Rice, while the lesson was read by close Bush aide Karen Hughes.

The author also proves anecdotes about Bush that had previously been dismissed as false. Rumours that he had prayed with a young soldier who had lost a hand in Iraq were thought to be myth, but Mansfield tracked down witnesses and a hospital chaplain who said that Bush had prayed with the man, ending by kissing him on the forehead and telling him he loved him. 'For me, that sums up Bush's beliefs. He really believes Jesus is taken up in his heart and soul,' Mansfield said.

· A woman rammed a car carrying her children, aged three, five and eight, into a building where Bush was campaigning in Mississippi yesterday. Betina Mixon, 29, was dragged away at gunpoint and charged with aggravated assault.


TOPICS: Culture/Society; Extended News; Government; News/Current Events; United Kingdom
KEYWORDS: bookreview; bornagain; bushandgod; divineintervention; faith; faithofgwb; leadership; prayer; stephenmansfield; tonyblair; uk
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To: Pokey78
Well the issue is that the Middle East are trying to say we are on a crusade and to have a President who claims to be there by God instead of the people kind of puts Islam against Christianity in a religious war.

Not the preferred perception.
21 posted on 11/01/2003 7:00:06 PM PST by A CA Guy (God Bless America, God bless and keep safe our fighting men and women.)
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To: kayak

LOL! Case in point: Bush to visit state amid controversy

22 posted on 11/01/2003 7:00:18 PM PST by Cultural Jihad
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To: kayak
Thanks for the ping!
23 posted on 11/01/2003 7:00:47 PM PST by manna
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To: Pokey78
Another article from the UK's Telegraph on this subject from a couple of weeks ago....... if anyone is interested.



24 posted on 11/01/2003 7:01:59 PM PST by deport (Guess who is the SUCKER............)
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To: Pokey78; Howlin; jwalsh07; Miss Marple
The suggestion that Bush is some kind of religious nutter is so ludicrous. And while per the article, allegedly Bush felt that God wanted him to throw his hat in the ring, not that God wanted him to win. There is a difference, perhaps too subtle for the author. This near atheist agnostic does not feel threatened by Bush's religiousity. He is a calm, and composed, and sensible, and tolerant, and cautious man. I feel quite safe.

Oh yes, Blair, another man of faith, who prayed with Bush (oh the horror), is not a religious nutter either. He too is calm and composed and focused on furthering what he in good conscience thinks is good for his nation, and for the planet as a whole. In that sense, while Blair is to the Left of Bush on some issues (I am kind of in-between the two), he and Bush are sympatico.

My suggestion to the author is to chill out, and move on to some other marketing plan for self attention and aggandizement. The dog he has chosen as his vehicle won't hunt.

What I do fear are intolerant anti-religious bigots. That is how I see it, from this direction.

25 posted on 11/01/2003 7:03:53 PM PST by Torie
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To: Prodigal Son
Bill Clinton's J' Aveour a Trois.

Enjoy.


26 posted on 11/01/2003 7:04:15 PM PST by gcruse (http://gcruse.typepad.com/)
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To: Torie
As a matter of clarification, the incoherent sentence of mine about God wanting Bush to win, and chose him to win, is in the headline, but not supported by any quotes from the Texan who does not speak English as well as Blair known as Dubya. Thus the headline seems tendentious and ersatz.
28 posted on 11/01/2003 7:07:49 PM PST by Torie
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To: Pokey78
Few US Presidents have been as openly religious as Bush.

Recent Presidents would be a more accurate statement. Washington and Lincoln certainly were. Probably most of the early US presidents were.

29 posted on 11/01/2003 7:10:33 PM PST by Hugin
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To: Pokey78
"...heavily influenced by extremist Christians. "

I'm sorry, but I am trying to understand exactly what an extremeist Christian would be. And after that, I am trying to understand why someone would think that was a bad thing.

30 posted on 11/01/2003 7:10:58 PM PST by TN4Liberty
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To: At _War_With_Liberals
Love for God is the new "love that dare not speak its name", and faggotry is the (so-called) "love that won't shut the ef up".
31 posted on 11/01/2003 7:11:12 PM PST by First Amendment
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To: kayak
'There is no question they have shared scripture and prayed together.'

Exactly what they should have been doing!

32 posted on 11/01/2003 7:13:27 PM PST by Faith
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To: Torie
Well said.
33 posted on 11/01/2003 7:16:10 PM PST by Cultural Jihad
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To: Torie
Hi, Torie. Thank you for your post.

It is a mark of how secular anad anti-religious much of the world has become, that George Bush who speaks his faith about the same as Eisenhower, is suddenly seen as some kind of nut case.

I am comforted that President Bush is a normal person, who lives his faith as best he can while not hitting people over the head with it. Those who think he is a religious zealot are way too paranoid about their own faith (or lack of it) in my opinion.

I am heartened that you see things the same way.

34 posted on 11/01/2003 7:34:32 PM PST by Miss Marple
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To: Pokey78
Man oh man, talk about your vivid contrasts, GWB vs. the stainmaster and Hitlery!!!
35 posted on 11/01/2003 7:35:17 PM PST by Chu Gary
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To: Pokey78
He prays, he's Christain, and he prays. Oh, and he prays every day. He's not fit to be President because if you pray your a loon.

Eurotrash ought to try it for a change.
36 posted on 11/01/2003 7:38:47 PM PST by TheErnFormerlyKnownAsBig ("I've got a feeling you've got a heart like mine. Let's stomp some rat ba!!$, you can let it shine.")
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To: Pokey78
"Bush said to James Robinson:"

That should probably be James ROBISON, Paul.

http://www.christianity.com/CC/article/0%2C%2CPTID309008|CHID570894|CIID1459614%2C00.html

37 posted on 11/01/2003 7:42:51 PM PST by SwinneySwitch (Freedom isn't Free - Support the Troops & Vets!!)
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To: Pokey78
Bill clinton brought religion into the White House. He was counseled on his marital problems by the Reverend Jesse Jackson.
38 posted on 11/01/2003 8:08:39 PM PST by Cicero (Marcus Tullius)
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To: Pokey78
God has truly blessed America with George Bush as President.

There is a right time and place for this President, and I believe God has a larger purpose for GW. One that has to do with the war on terrorism and the enemies of Israel.

39 posted on 11/01/2003 8:17:35 PM PST by Jorge
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To: Cicero
Bill clinton brought religion into the White House. He was counseled on his marital problems by the Reverend Jesse Jackson.

Who brought his pregnant mistress with him.
The hypocrisy of this crowd just astounds me.

40 posted on 11/01/2003 8:18:59 PM PST by Jorge
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