CA: Instant immigrant job check in danger

OC Register ^ | 11/1/03 | Dena Bunis

[NormsRevenge]

WASHINGTON

[NormsRevenge]

How SAVE works

SAVE, the Systematic Alien Verification for Entitlements program, allows employers in California, Texas, Illinois, Florida, Nebraska and New York to voluntarily enroll and check new employee's Social Security numbers and immigration status against federal databases. Here's how it works:

Employer inputs employee name, Social Security number, date of birth, hire date, status in the United States and type of identification documents presented into a computer program.

Information is matched electronically against information in the Social Security Administration or Department of Homeland Security immigration databases.

Possible outcomes:

1. The system confirms the information and the employee is authorized to work.

2. The information does not match, and that results in a "tentative non-confirmation." Employer notifies the employee, who can contest it either with the Social Security Administration or immigration officials. The employee has eight working days to correct the record and establish work eligibility.

If an employee is referred to immigration officials, they'll be given a toll-free number and talk to an immigration status verifier, who will try to resolve the case. Then an answer will be sent electronically to the employer within one day.

If an employee is referred to the Social Security Administration, he must go to a local Social Security office. Within 24 hours of the employee going to the local office, the employer must resubmit the case to get a final determination.

[The Old Hoosier]

Democrats see value in the program but say Republicans tried to ram the extension through this past week without enough debate.

Classic stalling tactic. "We need more debate." They do this on every issue. If it were up to them, we'd be debating until doomsday.

[Amerigomag]

I suspect that over 95% of the employers in California aren't even aware of the system. Of that 95% an equally large amount probably wouldn't use the system without some incentive.

[Oatka]

I suspect that over 95% of the employers in California aren't even aware of the system.

On another thread on this, some businessman from Texas said he never heard of it and opined it was geared towards the larger companies, when in fact most of the illegal hiring is done by the smaller operations.

Of that 95% an equally large amount probably wouldn't use the system without some incentive.

Yeah, they would look on it as added bookkeeping overhead. However, if the syetem was available and the company didn't use it, a stiff fine per illegal might be the proper motivator.

[XHogPilot]

Illegal Immigrant Ping

[XHogPilot]

Bump to the Top

[Southack]

Thanks, but I already get WAY too many pings...

[Allegra]

Classic stalling tactic. "We need more debate." They do this on every issue. If it were up to them, we'd be debating until doomsday.

You're right. What's to debate? This seems like a pretty cut and dried issue if you look at it logically (which Dims don't.)

Again, they fail the grasp the simple concept of the word "illegal."

[Scenic Sounds]

A workable program will be absolutely essential to even begin to deal with illegal immigration.

[cyborg]

thanks for the ping... and the problem with this system is what??? It's only a problem for illegal aliens, not legal immigrants with legitimate papers.

[Dr Warmoose]

If it were up to them [the demoncats], we'd be debating until doomsday.

They are trying to create Doomsday.

[Dr Warmoose]

Change "illegal aliens" to "guns" and the Demoncats would do everything in their power to make sure a nationwide system was in place, and mandatory prison sentences were given to all who didn't comply.... Oh wait, there is already a program like that - The Brady Bill.

Yes we can count on the Party of Treason to make sure that illegal aliens and terrorists can roam without fear of prosecution, while American citizens who simply wish to defend themselves against illegal aliens, criminals and terrorists - or simply wish to "put food on the table" are required by Fe'ral Law to check their 2nd Amendment at the door, pay a fee, and wait for the Fe'ral Government to allow one American citizen to sell another American citizen a chunk of metal and polymer.

Since Demoncats hate laws and seem to enjoy their jihad against Western culture, Freedom and Prosperity; I wonder if they wouldn't mind if we elected an illegal alien to replace them in Congress. Can't do any worse.

[XHogPilot]

Could you add to Front Page News?

[NewRomeTacitus]

“...the INS and SSA were not accessible enough to employers," said Rep. Loretta Sanchez, who voted no on the bill. "Thirty-nine percent of employers said that SSA never returned their calls and 43 percent reported that INS didn't return their calls promptly," said Sanchez, D-Santa Ana. If the program went nationwide, she said, businesses would be more frustrated.”

So Ms. Sanchez says the system isn’t perfect so it should be scrapped, yet:

“By January, employers who now must use special software and a modem to access the data will be able to go to a Web site for the same information.”

Problem solved. Round ‘em up, move ‘em out.

[janetgreen]

More PC pandering to hispanics. The "elected ones" who refuse to encourage immigration laws to be enforced should be thrown out on their butts come election time, including President Bush.

All the legislation favoring illegal aliens seems to pass easily, but anything that might actually help solve the problem gets lost in red tape, and the ones in power continue to vote against what the majority of America wants. They should not be re-elected.

[Major_Risktaker]

These Capitol Hill clowns couldn't even agree on the color of fresh snow.

[Mears]

I'm with you. And if Tancredo ever runs for president I will get very active politically for the first time on my life.

[Mears]

Oops! "In my life"

[YankeeReb]

So Ms. Sanchez says the system isn’t perfect so it should be scrapped, yet:

Let's see by this logic the IRS and federal income taxes should also be scrapped because after 60 years they're still corrupt. Wonder if any democrats would call for that?

[dennisw]

The duplicitous Democrats and the immigration lawyers lobby always talk about it being a problem of employers demanding and hiring illegal aliens. About stopping illegal immigration from the employer's end, instead of the employee's end. The duplicitous Democrats always talk about punishing the employers rather than the poor noble downtrodden Mexicans who just come here to earn money for his starving family in Mexico. (/barf)

Here's a program that helps the honest employer obey the law and the Democrats sabotage it.