The Relationships Between Republicans And Conservatives (Cathryn Crawford)

Washington Dispatch ^ | October 31, 2003 | Cathryn Crawford

[honeygrl]

Yet another great one!

[jmc813]

I don't blame Dane reaction at all. The particular poster he was addressing whines and moans about FR on a daily basis, and then goes to other sites and badmouths us.

[Lazamataz]

When you are young and not idealogical you have no heart, when you are 40 and still idealogical you have no head.

And when you are 40 and have no job, you have no life.

Get a job, Dane.

[Cathryn Crawford]

Well, I just wanted Dane's opinion on the article. I actually like hearing what he thinks.

[gcruse]

Does that negative reaction assume that people want Republicans to be right-of-center (or strict) conservatives?

In modern times, candidates run from the center, then govern from their extremes, for want of a better word. 
Bush seems to have stood that on its head.  He ran on conservative strengths, but governs from the center. 
Maybe that's how you get re-elected, by pulling in the uncommitted who voted against you last time.  Since the country is so evenly split, staying on your own side of the fence might lead to perpetually anemic domestic government, not that there's anything wrong with that.  ;)

[jmc813]

No you are still young, some day when you get into the real world.

I disagree. I feel Cathryn is well beyond her years, and it shows in her writing. Calling Bush a centrist is an accurate assesment in my opinion, and should not be interpereted as a slur.

[Dane]

And when you are 40 and have no job, you have no life.

Get a job, Dane

Why don't you get a freakin clue. Maybe someday you will.

[gcruse]

Conservatism is a reflective term; it describes nothing but a position relative to something else.

That's Repubicanism, if there is such a word.  Conservatism has concrete principles. Reread the article.

[Sloth]

idealogical

Churchill & Thatcher had better spelling.

[jmc813]

Damn, chill out.

[Mudboy Slim]

"...in the United States, the GOP is the conservative party."

Not so much these days, it appears...MUD

[Hemingway's Ghost]

We've got to face facts, though: partisanship is strangling this country. Both sides are guilty . . . look at the latest example: Finally, the economy is picking up a touch and the Democrats can't bring themselves to admit that Bush's tax cuts might've played a part in it. Who the hell does that help?

[Scenic Sounds]

Don't you wish they were moving to the right, though?

Well, it's getting complicated these days.

If the President were to insist on a "balanced budget" (long thought to be a conservative position) and advocated that tax rates be adjusted (even upward, if necessary) to eliminate the current deficit, would that be a move to the right or to the left?

If the President had vetoed the bill prohibiting human cloning on the grounds that it is not within the federal government's enumerated powers, would that have been a move to the right or to the left? ;-)

[Hemingway's Ghost]

That's Repubicanism, if there is such a word. Conservatism has concrete principles. Reread the article.

Thanks, I did. Perhaps robertpaulsen would like to weigh in on the issue.

[Dane]

I think it's pretty funny that people around here (mistakenly) attribute beliefs to ideals instead of principles.

Uh ideals and principles are the same thing. The name of the game, especially with the way the Founders set things up, is to give a little bit, but still basically stay true to those principles.

That is life.

[rdb3]

Since the country is so evenly split, staying on your own side of the fence might lead to perpetually anemic domestic government, not that there's anything wrong with that. ;)

Okay, Seinfeld! ;-)

[Lazamataz]

Why don't you get a freakin clue. Maybe someday you will.

I'll get a clue a hell of a lot sooner than you get a paycheck, boy.

[Cathryn Crawford]

Uh ideals and principles are the same thing. The name of the game, especially with the way the Founders set things up, is to give a little bit, but still basically stay true to those principles.

Then, I'm assuming that since you were less than positive towards my "idealism", you advocate people having no principles?

Since ideals and principles are the same thing and all.

You aren't being clear, Dane.

[gcruse]

Who does it help? Heh, if they keep it up in the face of a recovery by election time, it will help us big time. Please, Dems, don't throw us in the briar patch!!!

[Lazamataz]

Damn, chill out.

Dane is Illbay without all the charm. I'm usually easy going. Not with those two rectal clowns.