[Dane]

I think it's pretty funny that people around here (mistakenly) attribute beliefs to ideals instead of principles.

Uh ideals and principles are the same thing. The name of the game, especially with the way the Founders set things up, is to give a little bit, but still basically stay true to those principles.

That is life.

[Cathryn Crawford]

Uh ideals and principles are the same thing. The name of the game, especially with the way the Founders set things up, is to give a little bit, but still basically stay true to those principles.

Then, I'm assuming that since you were less than positive towards my "idealism", you advocate people having no principles?

Since ideals and principles are the same thing and all.

You aren't being clear, Dane.