What one company is doing about the AWB and its possible Sunset

Armalite website ^ | unk | Mark A. Westrom

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The ArmaLite® Post-PostBan ™ Rifle Program

Fact: Unless reauthorized or replaced with a worse program, the Assault Weapon Act of 1994 will expire in September, 2004.

Possible outcomes are:

“Reauthorization,” i.e. no change in the law.
Replacement with a worse law, even to the possibility that production is halted.
Expiration of the law.
Expiration for only a short time, and then be reauthorization or worse.

The AW Ban is a cosmetic law, and we’d all like to own rifles without the blemishes that it established. If the law expires, there’s plenty of time to wait for a new rifle with “pre-ban” characteristics. If any of the other three outcomes occur, a delay could be a real mistake. The purpose of the PPB program is to prepare purchasers for any outcome.

The program offers customers a way to avoid the risk of delay, yet also have the benefits of a change in law. The opportunity is provided by the design of ArmaLite’s® 2003 rifles.

1. Beginning immediately, ArmaLite® 2003 rifles (with a pinned muzzle brake, or none installed) ship with a certificate that will provide customers a pin-on flash suppressor and installation instructions at no charge. Unless earlier legislation makes it illegal for customers to install the device, flash suppressors will ship in summer 2004 to allow time to get the rifle modified even if there’s an opportunity of only a few days.

Until the law changes, the flash suppressor will provide a reminder to every customer that it is essential to get out the vote in 2004.

2. For customers who wish to go an extra step and install a bayonet lug, ArmaLite® will continue to sell pin-on sight bases with bayonet lugs, and will provide installation instructions for gunsmiths. All ArmaLite® clamping front sight bases are easily removable, with no pin-holes in the barrel, so pin-on bases can be easily installed.

3. For customers who wish to be able to convert their rifle to a “Pre-Ban” configuration immediately upon expiration, ArmaLite® will produce and sell AR-10™ collapsing buttstocks (the AR-10™ requires a special collapsing buttstock). It is likely that prompt installation of such a buttstock will allow customers to make other changes at a more leisurely pace.

Installation of options 2 and 3 both are already available for law enforcement customers (with proper rifle markings). Civil customers must await a change in the law, and flash suppressors, bayonet lugs, and collapsing stocks will all be accompanied by clear information about the law to prevent a violation.

4. Pre-2003 rifles with pinned front sight bases or threaded-pinned-welded brakes, or customers who wish threaded brakes on 2003 models instead of pinned ones, require gunsmith or factory replacement of those parts. ArmaLite® offers the components for sale, and will perform conversions at normal shop charges.

Mark A. Westrom
President

[longtermmemmory]

The smartest thing this company is doing is telling people to vote.

Registering Voters is the most urgent thing we need to do. The Democrat stratedy (from an inside source) is to get non-regular or occasional voters to vote in 2004. This is their below the radar strategy.

It also dovetails with a fraud theory if a number on unexpected people vote.

[longtermmemmory]

the no income tax is a part of the FL constitution. The former D gov tried, tried to overturn that provision. He failed.

[cavtrooper21]

Eeh, what was that?

[Eaker]

LOL........;<)

[SauronOfMordor]

Aside from the obvious feature of being able to bayonet wounded woodchucks [that's a joke, son], can anybody give me any practical reason to go to all the trouble to convert it into a PPB configuration?

What practical reason does it serve to put racing stripes on your vintage Mustang? Because it looks cool, and you can

[El Gato]

Texas is just too d@amn hot.

Not all of it. The Davis Mountains don't generally get all that hot, nor do they get all that cold in the winter, although cold enough for snow. Most of north Texas is much more like the rest of the great plains, not like Houston, which some refer to as Humidiston or Humidistan, even by San Antonians, which isn't all that much different.. but enough. The entire "Hill Country" is somewhat cooler than nearby locations, and is beautiful to boot.

[El Gato]

The muzzle brake is really no more ort less ugly than, say, a flash hider.

But does have a different function, albeit with some overlap. The muzzle brake on my G-3 (rebuilt to semi-auto) makes the thing really uncomfortable to shoot from a covered shooting position, and a covered shooting position is darn near mandatory in the San Antonio area, unless you want your brains fried if you spend much time on the range in the summer. A flash suppressor would not have the same effect. Of course you could take the thing off entirely, but then the gun would look "funny".

If the second amendment were really observed we'd not have to make do with semi-auto clones of the rifles we'd really like to have. The ones we have a right to have, even under the "Miller" decision of the Supreme Court, namely the same ones the military, and some police, have.

[El Gato]

Should we encourage selling outdated Army tanks to the general public?

They are "arms" within the meaning of the term in the second amendment. (It was not unusual for private individuals or private associations to own cannon or cannon armed ships at the time the second amendment was ratified, and even for several decades afterwards). So yes, we should be able to buy outdated Army tanks, or new ones from the manufactuer, if we've got the scratch.. which very few would.

[Eaker]

If the second amendment were really observed we'd not have to make do with semi-auto clones of the rifles we'd really like to have. The ones we have a right to have, even under the "Miller" decision of the Supreme Court, namely the same ones the military, and some police, have.

We have a winner!!!!

[StriperSniper]

we should be able to

I agree, I just wouldn't encourage it for most.
I worry about most of the idiots out there with just regular cars. ;-)

[humblegunner]

If the second amendment were really observed we'd not have to make do with semi-auto clones of the rifles we'd really like to have. The ones we have a right to have, even under the "Miller" decision of the Supreme Court, namely the same ones the military, and some police, have.

I'll bump that, with the amendment that as a well regulated militia we not only keep but bear our arms. I think that item is already covered somewhere....

[Eaker]

Humblegunner.........

He had nerves of iron, a fine eye for targets and a weakness for automatic weapons.

And he scared the crap out of the other first graders!!!

Happy hunting brother!!!

[archy]

Aside from the obvious feature of being able to bayonet wounded woodchucks [that's a joke, son], can anybody give me any practical reason to go to all the trouble to convert it into a PPB configuration?

There are also a couple of fairly nice auxiliary lighting systems that mount to a rifle using the bayonet mount, and I've long used cutdown bayonet handles without blades as a basis for fitting bipods.

-archy-/-

[El Gato]

Aside from the obvious feature of being able to bayonet wounded woodchucks [that's a joke, son], can anybody give me any practical reason to go to all the trouble to convert it into a PPB configuration?

My wife's nephew (mine too of course) used the bayonet on his cut down SKS to finish off his first boar. The old boy had drug himself up onto a hard surfaced road before being unable to proceed any farther. They, his Dad and he, used the bayonet because they were worried about over penetration and a ricochet off that hard surface. So you never know. Meanwhile there has been no noticable drop in drive by bayonetings since the AWB and and earlier import ban.

[Squantos]

The Benelli M1 is not yer daddys scattergun per se. I have two. My normal carry guns were Model 12 Winchester or Remington 870's and very simple to operate. My first benelli took some time and practice to adapt to. Recoil is murder and you "must" be very careful to avoid legal bullshit with regards to magazine extensions and the pistol grip AWB crap. HK can give ya the serial number cutoff for such combination do's and do nots but I have seen loophole trappin BatFag's nail folks for assembling a pre-ban configuration gun on a preban serial number so if you add a pistol grip or mag extension get your parts from the dark angels versus the store .

The benelli M1's have very hard recoil. Even with light loads. I have the Vang barrel porting on one and the other is plain brown wrapper out of the box. The ported one is fast , easier recoil and my best rig for "self defense" if I knew a fight was coming. If yer a gadget sort that will hang a bunch of goodies off the benelli like a side saddle, surfire light forend, add a weaver rail for an aimpoint and such then be prepared for malfunctions. The shotgun is a fine instrument and added weight can cause jams.

The benelli M1 is an awesome scattergun but to get the best and the most of its capabilities shoot a thousand rounds or so to understand what I'm saying. Use a few snap caps to practice reloading exercises and such to understand the system before ya have to do it half awake, confused and scared at Oh Dark Thirty some rainy night.

Some neat things about it you'll enjoy and other more complex manipulations will have to become muscle memorymatic for serious self defense use.

Just some suggestions to consider before ya drop the coin on the purchase.......

Stay Safe !

[cavtrooper21]

And even better, we could mount them on armored vehicles and go chase hoopties...
Although what you do with one once you catch it is beyond me....

[Kenton]

My wife's nephew (mine too of course) used the bayonet on his cut down SKS to finish off his first boar.

LOL >>>>----->

I have an SKS with an attached bayonet too, and although it's never gotten a real workout, I have often considered that the bayonet would be good as a followup for boar...

[looscnnn]

I don't know who the moderator is, but I wish that he/she would not have removed Rhoderic's reply to me. I really wanted to respond to it.

I do like your response though. If they were to ban all guns, then what's next? Vehicles have more injuries and deaths than guns, plus "they cause global warming", shouldn't they be what is gone after first? How about knives? What would we do without knives? Golf clubs have been used, there go the country clubs (better let Tiger know). Baseball just won't be the same without the bats. I seem to recall people being killed by lamps, but we can survive in the dark. Of course the folks in the north will not like winter without fire to keep them warm. Imagine what our world would be like without all the things that can kill, oh how peaceful we will live. Oh, wait, I forgot people can kill with their bodies. Well I guess it will be just the landscape, because we can't let the animals live (they can kill too). Ah utopia finally.

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My own particular scattercannon is a Charles Daley tactical. 18-inch barrel, 5-shot tube, and weighs all of about six pounds, and is short and handy. It's not as fancy or "finely-finished" as some guns, but it WORKS, and works well. I once put about 200 different shells through it in one day's shooting session, and had no jams or malfunctions at all. After cleaning, it looked brand new. Hell, I was even able to practice one-handed firing (in case of injury) with no ill effects, so light was the kick. All that for $200.00.

My only complaint is that few if any accessories are made for the gun. I wouldn't mind a light-holding forend or a pistol grip stock, but to my knowledge, none are made for the gun.

However, with a mix of slugs and #6 shot, it makes for an excellent housekeeper.

[Burkeman1]

Hey Jeff Head? Why are our forces disarming Iraqi civilians all over the country right now? Would you be upset if your neighborhood was plauged with crime and an American soldier kicked down your door and took your rifle?

400 hundred Americans have died in this occupation. That is a lot. How many Iraqi civilians have died due to crime and lawlessness all over Iraq in the last 6 months? Does anyone stop to consider that? Even East Germans started to have nostaligic feelings for the Communist nanny government that had held them in squalor for 40 years but at least equal squalor!

American soldiers kicking down doors, taking guns, and setting up barbed wire around towns. That is just not this country!