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Unions: Good or Bad?
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Posted on 10/30/2003 10:50:34 AM PST by proud_member_of_ VRWC

It would be difficult to argue that labor unions haven't done a lot of good for American workers. But have they got a little too much power now? They may be interfering with companies' abilities to compete -- and perhaps investors should consider unions when evaluating companies.

By Selena Maranjian (TMF Selena) October 30, 2003 I've long supported unions. I've even belonged to two -- when I was a high school teacher and when I was a university administrative worker. (For the record, the Harvard Union of Clerical and Technical Workers had some great songs.) But in recent years, I've come to doubt my pro-union convictions. Permit me to share some of my thoughts and then to solicit your thoughts. I suspect that many who read my words are much more informed about and experienced with unions than I am.

Why unions are good In much of industrial America, workers toiled under very unsafe conditions, earning extremely low pay and enjoying little to no legal protection. Unions were successful in bringing about many improvements for such workers, such as more reasonable working hours. They have generally served workers well by helping them avoid being exploited by employers. Even in these days, unions have a strong impact. According to the Bureau of Labor Statistics, union members in 1999 had median weekly earnings of $672 (that's $34,944 per year) while non-union workers had median weekly earnings of only $516 ($26,832) (source).

Why unions are problematic Much as I'd rather not accept it, while unions have done a lot of good and have helped workers avoid exploitation, they also seem to have helped workers exploit employers. Perhaps it has been a gradual shift over time, with unions slowly accumulating more and more power. (Perhaps not -- again, I welcome your thoughts.)

Unions can have the power to impede a company's ability to compete and thrive. A firm might be in desperate trouble, yet its unions may be unwilling to bend or compromise in order to help the company survive. Many employers find themselves left very inflexible when they have union contracts to abide by.

Some more problems with unions:

Anti-competitiveness. The Socialstudieshelp.com website suggests that, "unions… are victims of their own success. Unions raised their wages substantially above the wages paid to nonunion workers. Therefore, many union-made products have become so expensive that sales were lost to less expensive foreign competitors and nonunion producers."

A decline in the value of merit. In many union settings, workers can't advance much or at all on their merits, but must generally progress within the limits defined by union contracts. Employers may have trouble weeding out ineffective employees if they belong to unions. In theory, at least, unionized workers might become so comfortable and protected that they lose the incentive to work hard for their employer. And outstanding employees might lose their get-up-and-go if there's no incentive to excel -- or worse, if they're pressured by the union to not go the extra mile. Here's a webpage detailing some other union drawbacks.

Is there a problem? So there's both good and bad associated with unions. I suspect that most businesses, and even many or most investors in said businesses, would prefer that the businesses be union-free. But that's easier said than done.

Is ownership an answer? One strategy for companies to avoid unions taking hold on their premises might be to ensure that as many of their workers as possible are as satisfied as possible. That's simple and makes sense, but it can become mighty difficult to maintain as a company grows huge. Another option is to convert employees into owners -- via stock ownership or profit-sharing, for example. If workers have a real stake in a firm's bottom line, they may be more sympathetic to management's point of view and more eager to work extra hard to help the firm succeed.

That's not a perfect solution, though. Starbucks (NYSE: SBUX), for example, is known for awarding stock options. Yet some of its workers in the U.S. and Canada have organized into unions, while others would like to.

Consider also Southwest Airlines (NYSE: LUV), which has long made employees part-owners via profit-sharing and stock options. It hasn't escaped having unions in its midst. Yet, as this Foundation for Enterprise Development case study notes, "A few years ago the pilots' union at Southwest struck an extraordinary deal with the airline to freeze wage increases for 10 years in exchange for an increased proportional allocation of stock options. The flight attendants' union has since also signed a similar agreement that is unprecedented in the industry." And Southwest has continued to thrive in its notoriously tough industry.

American Airlines, whose parent company is AMR (NYSE: AMR), also decided to issue stock options to its employees, making the announcement in April -- and just a week or so ago it reported a long-elusive (though tiny) profit. Are the two items related? Perhaps, at least to some degree. Though it's worth pointing out that stock options aren't necessarily always attractive. If they're for stock of a shaky company in a wobbly industry, they may not be worth much at all. (Bill Mann noted earlier this year why investors might want to walk away from American Airlines.)

The healthcare crisis If ownership isn't the best answer, perhaps healthcare coverage might be. Along with compensation issues, healthcare is a major factor in the recent strike of grocery workers in California. The unions don't want to lose ground on the healthcare package workers currently receive. The grocery chains are crying that they're being pinched as they fight the threat of Wal-Mart (NYSE: WMT) -- yet some have been recording increases in sales and earnings lately. Kroger (NYSE: KR), for example, posted a 3% increase in sales and a 16% increase in earnings between fiscal 2001 and 2002.

What's really going on? I suspect that both sides fear a slippery slope: Workers fear that if they give in a bit on healthcare, they'll eventually lose it all. (And with healthcare costs skyrocketing lately, that's a valid concern.) Employers fear that they're already on a slippery slope as they fight the encroaching behemoth that is Wal-Mart.

The Wal-Mart situation Wal-Mart itself is interesting, when you consider unionization. Thus far, in its not-that-short history, it has escaped having most of its workers belong to unions. But a passionate fight is being waged right now, as workers struggle to establish a union.

This raises interesting questions for us investors: Should we root for the union, as it might lead to more livable wages for employees and might keep more of Wal-Mart's million-plus employees enjoying healthcare benefits? Or should we root for Wal-Mart, figuring that a union will almost certainly put pressure on profits and might threaten the company's ability to sustain its track record of formidable global growth?

I'd like to tell you what I think of the Wal-Mart situation, but I can't. I'm torn. I see both sides of the issue. I wouldn't want to see Wal-Mart unduly restricted by union stipulations. I recognize that although it's enormous, its net profit margins aren't that hefty, at around 4%. That doesn't leave lots of room for adding expenses (though of course there is some room). But at the same time, I wouldn't want employees to be taken advantage of simply because Wal-Mart is big enough to do so. I admire generous companies, ones that treat their workers well. I'd want Wal-Mart to be, as many folks would argue it currently is, fair or even generous to workers. I suppose what I'd like to see is a more perfect solution than a traditional union or successful union-busting.

Questions that remain So after this brief foray into union considerations, I'm left with more questions than answers. Once more, I invite your thoughts. Please share them on our discussion board for this column -- or pop in to see what others are saying. (We're offering a painless free trial of our boards right now.) I hope to revisit this topic soon, to share some of the most compelling responses of yours that I read. Some food for thought:

If unions are no longer so critical, should they disappear, and if so, how? They enjoy many protections by law. By what process might we become a union-free nation?

If unions are indeed still vital, how worried should we be that less than 15% of our workforce belongs to unions, and that this figure has been dropping?

If a company wants to avoid unionization, what is its best strategy?

How might unions and employers/managements better coexist, without one side exploiting the other?

How should investors view companies that have unionized workers? Fool coverage of unions If you're interested in other Fool articles that have touched on unions, look no further. Whitney Tilson recently explained how JetBlue Airways (Nasdaq: JBLU) is "JetBlue is ALPA's (the militant and powerful Air Line Pilots Association) worst nightmare, and they will do anything to unionize JetBlue." And earlier this year, I questioned whether Wal-Mart (NYSE: WMT) was exploiting employees and received many responses from readers.


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To: Willie Green
BWA HA HA! Well said, AGAIN!
61 posted on 10/30/2003 6:53:55 PM PST by LibertarianInExile (The scariest nine words in the English Language: We're from the government. We're here to help you.)
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To: proud_member_of_ VRWC
Unions: Good or Bad?,

Now?

Bad.

50 years ago...I think they were bad then too.

100 years ago...Maybe a necessary evil. Company towns and company stores were not good things.

62 posted on 10/30/2003 6:58:22 PM PST by Harmless Teddy Bear (There's enough guilt in the world to go around without grabbing for more.)
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To: proud_member_of_ VRWC
"What I am referring to are the costs of work stoppages and overhead absorption due to incompetent and/or unmotivated workers. These factors play a key role in the viability of a business, particularly manufacturing firms. "

I agree that eliminating work shoppages and poor workers is desirable. But I don't know that it is desirable to completely eliminate unions to do that. I also agree that unions can have a negative effect on motivation and morale.

But the issue still gets back to the question of: are there scenarios where labor economics results in undesirable scenarios.

In addition to the dust bowl scenario, I sometimes wonder if a large part of the economic wealth that we have is due to having the majority of our people participate in the economy at an adequate level. In other words, if labor economics drove the wages too low to where the majority of people are just subsisting then nobody is buying luxury items. That could create a situation where whole industries never had the impetus to start. The economy could be a much less diverse place and therefore a much less rich economy.

Would labor economics result in that? I don't know. The fact is we've had labor unions for a long time. We have had minimum wage laws for a long time. Those forces raise the average wage level and in that sense are good for the economy. In an economy with full employment, you could argue that neither would be needed. But in an economy with excess labor, I think those serve to help buffer the economy.

63 posted on 10/30/2003 7:01:31 PM PST by DannyTN (Note left on my door by a pack of neighborhood dogs.)
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To: Maria S
"Of course, at the slightest sniffle or hangnail, he calls in sick. "

Some people abuse sick leave. But I have a real gripe about people who are sick and don't use their sick leave. They come to the office and infect everyone else. Instead of using their benefit appropriately. They end up costing their company 10-20 times as much than if they simply used the benefit for what it was intended for.

STAY HOME!


64 posted on 10/30/2003 7:05:35 PM PST by DannyTN (Note left on my door by a pack of neighborhood dogs.)
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To: proud_member_of_ VRWC
They have become far worse than the people they were originally created to protect the workers from.
65 posted on 10/30/2003 7:06:52 PM PST by Bambino (Cemetery of the Gate of Heaven in Hawthorne, New York.)
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To: John O
Look at the industries that unions have killed or injured. Steel, Automotive, Airlines, textiles etc.

Don't forget the BIG one... the government education system with it's unions. That local Chrisitian schools can give kids much better educations than govt. run schools, for less than half the cost per student, says a LOT about union run govt. schools.

66 posted on 10/31/2003 5:12:48 AM PST by 69ConvertibleFirebird (Never argue with an idiot. They drag you down to their level, then beat you with experience.)
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To: ConservativeMan55
Fantasically horrific.
67 posted on 10/31/2003 5:13:37 AM PST by Einigkeit_Recht_Freiheit (Oil is America`s addiction.)
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To: ex-snook
"If a company wants to avoid unionization, what is its best strategy? "

Shut down, sell off the equipment for your retirement money, then send production to Mexico and/or China.

68 posted on 10/31/2003 5:15:19 AM PST by 69ConvertibleFirebird (Never argue with an idiot. They drag you down to their level, then beat you with experience.)
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To: ConservativeMan55
I must thank the Unions for waking me up, I was cruising through life oblivious to everything, got into a discussion with an auto worker who was making $25.00 an hour for standing near a machine that was doing the work he used to do, I rightly told him what a waste of Money and Life, that was a little bit of light and the Clarence Thomas hearings (a little more) then Rush Limbaugh (a little more)... next thing you know
 
I could see
 
All Thanks to one Union Guy!
 

69 posted on 10/31/2003 5:47:21 AM PST by TexasTransplant (If you can read this, Thank a Teacher. If this is in English, Thank a Soldier)
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To: ConservativeMan55
I must thank the Unions for waking me up, I was cruising through life oblivious to everything, got into a discussion with an auto worker who was making $25.00 an hour for standing near a machine that was doing the work he used to do, I rightly told him what a waste of Money and Life, that was a little bit of light and the Clarence Thomas hearings (a little more) then Rush Limbaugh (a little more)... next thing you know
 
I could see
 
All Thanks to one Union Guy!
 

70 posted on 10/31/2003 5:47:22 AM PST by TexasTransplant (If you can read this, Thank a Teacher. If this is in English, Thank a Soldier)
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To: ConservativeMan55
I must thank the Unions for waking me up, I was cruising through life oblivious to everything, got into a discussion with an auto worker who was making $25.00 an hour for standing near a machine that was doing the work he used to do, I rightly told him what a waste of Money and Life, that was a little bit of light and the Clarence Thomas hearings (a little more) then Rush Limbaugh (a little more)... next thing you know
 
I could see
 
All Thanks to one Union Guy!
 

71 posted on 10/31/2003 5:47:40 AM PST by TexasTransplant (If you can read this, Thank a Teacher. If this is in English, Thank a Soldier)
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To: freedumb2003
"I don't see this strike settling (also the MTA mechanics strike). I think this is the final line for unions -- I don't know what happens if the Supermarkets NEVER return to the bargaining table. After about a year I have to assume the 100% scab workforce will pretty much BE the workforce."

This exact thing happened in Detroit to the newspapers!
72 posted on 10/31/2003 5:50:39 AM PST by CSM (Shame on me for attacking an unarmed person, a smoke gnatzie!)
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To: TexasTransplant
Solar Flares = Triple Posts
Bad Finger! (That is going to hurt later)
73 posted on 10/31/2003 5:50:45 AM PST by TexasTransplant (If you can read this, Thank a Teacher. If this is in English, Thank a Soldier)
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To: LibertarianInExile
You are very misinformed. Each new model year an assembly line is revamped to maximize efficiency. If an investment is shown to be paid off over time then it will be made to allow for greater efficiency. Of course all of that is limited to what the UAW will allow! If the efficiency is seen as detrimental to the union, then they will not allow it to take place. If the plant can become more efficient while avoiding layoffs the union will allow it to happen. That hinders productivity and it is no surprise to me that it takes Ford or GM twice as many "man hours" to produce a unit than the transplants.

Whenever the UAW tries to infiltrate the transplants they have failed. Proof that unions are bad!

Have you ever been in the parking lot of a UAW OEM Assembly Plant? Have you ever been in that same parking lot at lunch? Try it some time, you would be surprised. The amount of alcohol drank and MJ smoked would shock you. The number of people sitting around during a work day would shock you.

Let me give you a concrete example: Suppose a line goes down on Monday and the number of units produced falls short of the required number of units. That production is made up on the next day. Now imagine that the same shift is able to make their Tuesday production goal 2 hours early on Tuesday. What would you imagine that they do? Wouldn't you think that they just work straight through to make up the loss of production on Monday? Nope, they shut down until their shift ends and work the extra production on OT. Another 2 hour loss of productivity.

This is just one example, add lack of flexibility, job classification, paying for UAW reps that are not producing, etc. and it is clear that the transplants have a huge advantage over the US OEM's. That is a big reason why the big 3 market share is declining while the number of vehicles sold increases.

Yes, this is not the only reason, it is just one of the top 3. I can't think of any instance where unions are a benefit to our economy.
74 posted on 10/31/2003 6:08:23 AM PST by CSM (Shame on me for attacking an unarmed person, a smoke gnatzie!)
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To: Willie Green
Pope Leo XIII: Rerum Novarum (On the Condition of Workers)
Pope Pius XI: Quadragesimo Anno (On Reconstruction of the Social Order)
Pope John Paul II: Laborem Exercens:(On Human Work)

I've looked and looked and looked and just can't seem to find these books in the bible.

Where exactly are they between Genesis and Revelation?

75 posted on 11/03/2003 4:01:36 AM PST by John O (God Save America (Please))
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To: DannyTN
And what are fair wages?

Any wages that the employer and the employee agree upon are fair wages. Could be $0.25 per hour or could be $25,000 per hour. If they both agree then it is fair

76 posted on 11/03/2003 4:03:54 AM PST by John O (God Save America (Please))
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To: LibertarianInExile
unions aren't ANY worse than other affiliations of those with like interests, such as joint-stock corporations or auto club members or the NRA.

If it weren't for the fact that unions exist only to deprive the business owner of his property you would be right. If every union had a no strike clause and every union did not defend slovenly work by it's members, and every union only served as a collective, but non-binding, conract vehicle then unions would be OK. As it is they are all criminal enterprises and are anti-biblical. Whenever people collude to deprive someone of their property (as unions always do) then they are committing organized theft no matter what you call it

77 posted on 11/03/2003 4:09:04 AM PST by John O (God Save America (Please))
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To: Windsong
Did it ever occur to you that Maybe Gid isn't the One doing the cruel stuff? Maybe it's us doing it to each other. You think the Third Reich was God's idea? I don't. I think the U.S. going in there and kicking the crap out of Germany was.
78 posted on 11/03/2003 4:09:22 AM PST by ovrtaxt ( http://www.fairtax.org **** Forget ANWR. Drill Israel !)
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To: Windsong
after seeing the state of our world, I am now inclined to agree.

God IS cruel.

Perfect, Just and Omnipotent maybe..but still Cruel.

Not cruel, just a gentleman. God will not impose His will on us by getting us out of the hell we've made this earth unless we invite Him to. How many elected leaders etc do you know who have fallen on their face before God and asked Him to heal their land? (Perhaps President Bush, thank God, but few others)

The world is in the state that we made it. God just shakes His head and longs for us to ask Him to fix it. He won't override our will.

79 posted on 11/03/2003 4:13:00 AM PST by John O (God Save America (Please))
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To: Willie Green
Bullcrap nothing. John O is exactly correct. Now, that's not to say that there aren't wrong attitudes on the corporate side, because there are. But the Bible stresses that the individual laborer, worker, employee is worthy of his hire. You shall not muzzle the ox that treads the grain. Again, a good worker is entitled to a fair compensation.

Collective bargaining provides a niche for the lazy and lesser skilled to be unfairly compensated. The bottom line is that unions are unbiblical, but corporate greed is too.
80 posted on 11/03/2003 4:15:50 AM PST by ovrtaxt ( http://www.fairtax.org **** Forget ANWR. Drill Israel !)
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