Posted on 10/29/2003 2:48:18 PM PST by GaryL
We are finally free to argue full-time about the real meaning of the Civil War.
Evolution is a fact. Religion is conjecture. You're welcome to believe in any faith as a matter of taste or opinion but don't try to reason out facts from matters of taste.
Is that statement fact or a matter of taste? You seem to base your criteria for 'fact' as something scientifically provable, and since your above statement cannot be scientifically proven it must be a matter of taste by your own definition. You're statement argues against itself.
These books and many others in this genre supported the growing consensus among unbiased observers that evolution is an outmoded, superficial, 19th century theory that can not withstand the intellectual scrutiny available to the 21st century. It is a theory sustained by metaphysics, not empirical science.
Gee, Where have I heard that before? The Imminent Demise of Evolution?
Does anyone doubt that the infectious spread of Darwinian evolution throughout Western culture since its introduction in the mid 19th century has led directly to a profound undermining of traditional Biblical authority?
Not directly, It's more the fundamentalist behavior (i.e. Silly articles like this) about evolution that has undermined biblical authority than evolution itself.
If the Bible, specifically the Book of Genesis, is wrong about creation, how can it be trusted on any topic?
Good Question, But Genesis is in fact wrong. Just read chapters 1 and 2 they directly contradict each other in order of creation.
Genesis 1
Plants-->Animals-->Man & Woman at the same time
Genesis 2
Man -->Plants-> Animals-->Woman
There are no such contradictions in the evolution theory.
Perhaps we are not really immortal souls, made in the image and likeness of God. Perhaps the evolutionists are right – we are just naked apes. The social carnage inflicted upon our society by this a priori theory of man-centered naturalism, successfully taking God out of the equation of life, would be hard to put into words.
Nah! Many cultures do fine without the Christian God (like modern day Japan) while many cultures do horribly under the Christian God (Latin America)
If we are ever to return to the moral and ethical values that our once-great culture was founded upon
Which great culture would that be? Europe in the 9th century?
The assault continued with Berkeley law professor (Harvard and U. of Chicago educated) Dr. Philip Johnson’s ...........Gary L. LiVacari, D.D.S.
Sorry but just because a lawyer and dentist don't believe in evolution that doesn't count as many scientist leaving evolution in droves.
And it's the same old, same old.
...there are no intermediate forms in the fossil record...
Stock pro-evo reply: All fossils are transitional forms, since evolution is a continuing process. Gaps in the record are inevitable since the rate of change in allele ratios (rate of evolution) in a population appears to be inversely proportional to the size of the population, while the probability of leaving a fossil record is directly proportional to the size of the population. In other words, evolution will always seem to happen fastest when the fossil record isn't watching.
...the DNA research under way that positively ties different species to the same family and back to precursor species.
Stock anti-evo reply: interesting statistics but the "ties" are conditional probabilities based on questionable assumptions (like evolution).
...which is a direct violation of the First Law of Thermodynamics, whereas the whole theory of evolution itself is a violation of the Second Law of Thermodynamics...
Stock pro-evo reply: The laws of Thermodynamics are applicable only to closed systems. The Earth is not a closed system; it receives light and heat from the sun and loses both back to space. Local reversals of thermodynamics are permitted by the laws.
But Genesis is in fact wrong. Just read chapters 1 and 2 they directly contradict each other in order of creation.
Stock literalist response: Differences in the Hebrew words used allow a contradiction-free interpretation.
If you read enough of these stupid useless threads you can argue both sides.
Evolution is a fact. Religion is conjecture.
Is that a fact? BTW, most religions are quite testable as hypotheses: die, and then see what happens next. No, NDE's don't count--you have to stay dead. Billions of people have already tested these hypotheses. Religion is a well-tested conjecture. In fact, I daresay it has been tested more thoroughly than the conjecture of evolution.
But the researchers aren't publishing their results in peer-reviewed journals AFAIK.
If anyone reading this feels offended because your favorite crevo argument was not addressed, post your complaints at www.tellsomeonewhocares.com and wait for someone to get back to you.
Actually, I don't mean any of this. I'm just tired and grumpy. And this is the LAST crevo thread I'm posting to. I mean it!
That's one problem right there. There was many books of the bible that were not included. Constantine was responsible for compiling the bible. He omitted the books that he thought were not quite pro-Christian enough. So, the tone of the bible is the result of one man's opinion and choice as to what to include.
Like Archaeopteryx. You know, a fully formed organism with characteristics of both bird and reptile. Not one of those awful intermediate forms.
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