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Fox News Chief Roger Ailes - CNN, NYTimes bitter because their getting 'their asses beaten'
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Posted on 10/29/2003 2:30:14 AM PST by jmcclain19
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To: Impeach the Boy
Who were the "they" and "us" of the symposium? "Left" and "Right"-slanted media, or the rest of the world and the "US."
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posted on
10/29/2003 7:09:34 AM PST
by
maica
(Rush is in my prayers)
To: maica
The "THEY" was the rest of the world.
To: Impeach the Boy
What no one has ever asked is how about special 5-10 minute testimonials from average Joe Citizens like me who would go on the show FOR FREE and state my opinion about the news bias. You could fill up quite a bit of time on a daily evening basis if people would be willing to get their 5-10 minutes of fame for free or just want to be heard...
To: Impeach the Boy
I hope your son and other Jacksonville students are seeing this hostile media as they are -- utterly without clothing - like the fairy-tale emperor. I have been reading a lot of positve reports about the conservatve trend of today's college-age trendsetters.
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posted on
10/29/2003 8:54:38 AM PST
by
maica
(Rush is in my prayers)
To: maica
It is difficult to gage whether the students were able to see this for what it was, an indoctrination. My son said he saw a couple of girls near him who were agreeing with everything these clowns were saying....in the college enviornment, the students, due to pc, are afraid to publicly disagree...liberals are NOT at all tolerant of disagreement in the academic envoirnments.
My other son also attends JSU. He has a so-called "history" professor who uses some portion of every lecture to bash Bush....my son asked me if he should challenge the silly assertions by this dolt...I told him NO...wait until he has no power over you, then SMACK THE CRAP out of the arrogant punk with the FACTS, and with your disdain for his cowardice.
To: Impeach the Boy
That is very sad about your son having to be subjected to 'harassment' by the political speech of his professor.
Your advice is correct, he has to hand in the answers that the professor wants to hear, but I hope he does not let that type of conduct go unchallenged forever.
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posted on
10/29/2003 9:42:34 AM PST
by
maica
(Rush is in my prayers)
To: maica
He will not allow it to go unchallenged...he can't wait to bust the guy...and if I had told him to challenge him in a public classroom forum, he would have done it. There are some, although rare, liberals who will allow a student to challenge them in public and not punish the student, but it is not worth the chance.
My wife attended school at the same university, and had to endure some lesbian teacher who said that we would have a cure for aids by now if Reagan had not been president....this woman had at least a Master's degree, and makes such a stupid comment...if I have been in her class, I would have followed that comment with two simple questions:
"Aids is caused by a virus, right?"
"Can you name a VIRUS for which the world has found a cure?"
Sadly the universities and the media a full of over-educated dimwits.
To: jmcclain19
Thanks for your efforts in abridging this lengthy interview for us!
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posted on
10/29/2003 4:06:50 PM PST
by
nutmeg
(Is the DemocRATic party extinct yet?)
To: StarFan; Dutchy; Timesink; Gracey; Alamo-Girl; RottiBiz; bamabaseballmom; FoxGirl; Mr. Bob; ...
FoxFan ping!
Please FReepmail me if you want on or off my FoxFan list. *Warning: This can be a high-volume ping list at times.
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posted on
10/29/2003 4:07:33 PM PST
by
nutmeg
(Is the DemocRATic party extinct yet?)
To: nutmeg
I would imagine the asses around the offices of CBS and the NYT would be rather sore. [irony]
To: martin_fierro; reformed_democrat; Loyalist; =Intervention=; PianoMan; GOPJ; Miss Marple; Tamsey; ...
This is the New York Times / CNN Schadenfreude Ping List. Freepmail me to be added or dropped.
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posted on
10/29/2003 4:16:53 PM PST
by
Timesink
To: jmcclain19
**advocacy journalism.**
Sort of like the ring of this description.
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posted on
10/29/2003 5:12:36 PM PST
by
Salvation
(†With God all things are possible.†)
To: Kieri
** Fox News needs to EXPAND to offer classroom news services!**
And the Channel One that play out here in the west is obnoxious. Is it from CNN?
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posted on
10/29/2003 5:14:49 PM PST
by
Salvation
(†With God all things are possible.†)
To: All
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posted on
10/29/2003 5:15:06 PM PST
by
Bob J
(www.freerepublic.net www.radiofreerepublic.com...check them out!)
To: nutmeg
Thanks for the heads up!
To: Timesink
Look, we're doing something that is forcing them-including the New York Times and the LA Times-to examine how their journalism's being presented. You gotta be kidding, what journalism? LOL.
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posted on
10/29/2003 9:04:18 PM PST
by
Victoria Delsoul
(I love the smell of winning, the taste of victory, and the joy of each glorious triumph)
To: jmcclain19
Sweet truth:
The concept that journalism knows and the public knows nothing and they're idiots is wrong.
Now, those people who believe that they were appointed to journalism to help these stupid masses get through life have a right to do that. And the public gets a right to decide whether they buy that paper or watch that show.
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posted on
10/29/2003 9:17:35 PM PST
by
GOPJ
To: jmcclain19
bttt
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posted on
10/30/2003 2:31:23 AM PST
by
lainde
To: jmcclain19
FN Bump
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posted on
10/30/2003 5:57:02 AM PST
by
GOPJ
To: jmcclain19
And THIS is what They-Who-Are-Getting-Their-Asses-Beaten think:
Ailes Takes Credit for Media 'Correcting Its Bias' But Claim Is Wild Exaggeration, Mitchell Says
By Greg Mitchell
Editor and Publisher* (see below for description)
NEW YORK -- In an article in this week's Broadcasting & Cable magazine, Roger Ailes, chairman of Fox News, attempts to take credit for making the elite media see the light on correcting their liberal bias.
"Look," he said in the interview, "we're doing something that is forcing them -- including The New York Times and the LA Times -- to examine how their journalism's being presented."
To illustrate this, Ailes cited a now-famous message sent by Los Angeles Times Editor John Carroll to his staff back in May, regarding coverage of the abortion issue. "When the editor of the LA Times sends a memo to his desk, which basically says, 'I know we're all liberals, but shouldn't we be a little more fair and balanced about this issue', that memo gets leaked," Ailes said. "Well, in 50 years of journalism, they never thought to be fair and balanced before we get on the scene."
The problem is -- and this is nothing out of the ordinary for Ailes and Fox News -- this is a wild, politically-driven exaggeration.
Certainly, in his memo, Carroll was concerned about the paper's coverage of that particular issue, but consider his actual words:
"I'm concerned about the perception -- and the occasional reality -- that the Times is a liberal, 'politically correct' newspaper. Generally speaking, this is an inaccurate view, but occasionally we prove our critics right. We did so today with the front-page story on the bill in Texas that would require abortion doctors to counsel patients that they may be risking breast cancer."
Note that Carroll called biased coverage only an "occasional" reality and that the perception of the Times as a liberal paper is generally "inaccurate." Also, he said the paper only "occasionally" proves its critics right. This is hardly reflected in Ailes' view that the paper was clueless about being fair and balanced for the past half-century.
Later in the memo, Carroll wrote: "We may happen to live in a political atmosphere that is suffused with liberal values (and is unreflective of the nation as a whole), but we are not going to push a liberal agenda in the news pages of the Times."
Again, note that nowhere does Carroll state or even suggest that "we're all liberals." Living and working in an area or an atmosphere "suffused with liberal values" hardly makes Carroll and his editors "all liberals."
In any event, the chairman of Fox News is hardly in the position to decry the pervasive political values in any other news organization.
* * * * * * * * * *
The above is the article that a nationwide media internet newsletter chose to include in yesterday's edition. I didn't know who Greg Mitchell is and what Editor and Publisher is, so I Googled and found where he was interviewed by PBS puke Bill Moyers.
BILL MOYERS: We're devoting this entire broadcast to media issues. And we begin with thoughts of journalism and the war. With me is Greg Mitchell, the editor of the weekly national magazine, EDITOR AND PUBLISHER, which many of us consider the Bible of the newspaper business.
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posted on
10/30/2003 6:30:16 AM PST
by
arasina
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